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Mr. Scott said:
The "super sperm" aspect of the story is 100% in Rebecca Watson's imagination and therefore a straw man tactic. Her misandry is a perfect replica of misogyny -- hating men yet sexually attracted to them. She was not like that before her short, very public marriage.
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I'm guessing you're saying she's not married anymore?
(I don't really follow the skeptical celeb tabloids, sorry)
 
tsig said:
Fellows if there's one thing I'm profoundly NOT interested in it's Watson's sex life, if you feel you must discuss it please take it elsewhere.
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It's on-topic. If you don't want to read about it, then I suggest giving the thread a miss for a while.
 
I think the morning after pill being substantially different than the normal pill is a misconception, but what the hell are we talking about?
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
I think the morning after pill being substantially different than the normal pill is a misconception, but what the hell are we talking about?
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Hmm, turns out you're right. The label itself says that it prevents implantation, however it turns out that actual research indicates that it cannot prevent implantation and, instead, the mechanism of action is the same as with a normal contraceptive pill - the prevention of ovulation.

Either way, though, it's certainly what he could have believed and could plausibly have been part of his thought processes.
 
The whole video was about him resisting a condom. The question about birth control was him trying to make an end run around the condom. Remember RW mentioned syphilis? Perhaps she sized him up and noticed thousands of pin size warts on his penis from HPV and saw an open syphilis chancre along with an active HSV sore crawling with scabies and crabs stuck in the gooey pus from his urethral discharge from Gonorrhea.
Piling on Watson for insisting a condom is just a knee jerk blue balls, taking a shower with a raincoat argument that only works on other misogynist's sympathy. I am beginning to think that the haters in this thread are not understanding women very well. Thus the need for A+.
 
Morchella said:
The whole video was about him resisting a condom.
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No it wasn't. He said that wearing a condom was "fine". Then he still had to think about whether he was going to have sex with her, what with her not being on birth control.

Perhaps she sized him up and noticed thousands of pin size warts on his penis from HPV and saw an open syphilis chancre along with an active HSV sore crawling with scabies and crabs stuck in the gooey pus from his urethral discharge from Gonorrhea.
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You can imagine whatever you like. I'm simply going by what Watson actually said.

Piling on Watson for insisting a condom is just a knee jerk blue balls, taking a shower with a raincoat argument that only works on other misogynist's sympathy.
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It would be, if that's what anybody had done. As they haven't, your comment is irrelevant.

I am beginning to think that the haters in this thread are not understanding women very well.
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Again, you're free to imagine whatever you like. You'd probably have an easier time of it if you stuck to what people have actually, said, though.

Thus the need for A+.
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There's a need for A+ because you're making things up?
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I've always been very careful about contraception. I don't think this makes me egotistical or someone who is disrespectful of women and their wishes but, instead, someone who isn't stupid or irresponsible.



No, that's "punching up". That's fine and not a fail at all.
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Oh yea, I hear you. I had buddies who were making payments because they were thinking with the little head. Contraception has always been a topic of discussion.

Punching up? I forgot, SJ has an excuse for everything.

I went looking for the Mormon super sperm thing and ended up watching Monty Python videos and now this song is stuck in my head.

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.

A dead end WRT research methinks.
 
Morchella said:
The whole video was about him resisting a condom. The question about birth control was him trying to make an end run around the condom. Remember RW mentioned syphilis? Perhaps she sized him up and noticed thousands of pin size warts on his penis from HPV and saw an open syphilis chancre along with an active HSV sore crawling with scabies and crabs stuck in the gooey pus from his urethral discharge from Gonorrhea.
Piling on Watson for insisting a condom is just a knee jerk blue balls, taking a shower with a raincoat argument that only works on other misogynist's sympathy. I am beginning to think that the haters in this thread are not understanding women very well. Thus the need for A+.
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Morchella, RW is less than honest many times. We take what she says with a whole salt mine of salt. Some of us have known her for quite a long time and have good reason to doubt her word and her version of things.

Some of us understand women very well, some of us are even women ourselves.
 
blutoski said:
I'm guessing you're saying she's not married anymore?
(I don't really follow the skeptical celeb tabloids, sorry)
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Watson publishes the skeptical celeb tabloids and she is the perennial top story.

Rebecca Watson married Sid Rodrigues in an ultra-public ceremony at TAM 7 in July 11, 2009. Their separation was announced in April 8, 2011 (23 months of marital bliss), then 2 months later, Elevatorgate (June, 2011).

Here's a video of their wedding ceremony:

 
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Morchella said:
The whole video was about him resisting a condom. The question about birth control was him trying to make an end run around the condom. Remember RW mentioned syphilis? Perhaps she sized him up and noticed thousands of pin size warts on his penis from HPV and saw an open syphilis chancre along with an active HSV sore crawling with scabies and crabs stuck in the gooey pus from his urethral discharge from Gonorrhea.
Piling on Watson for insisting a condom is just a knee jerk blue balls, taking a shower with a raincoat argument that only works on other misogynist's sympathy. I am beginning to think that the haters in this thread are not understanding women very well. Thus the need for A+.
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He immediately agreed to the condom and asked for even more contraception.
What did you watch? :confused:
 
I understand the violent reaction people have to patriarchy - but at some point youre simply attempting to mimic the mirror image rather than striving for true equality.

Dumb broads.
 
Mr. Scott said:
She really has a hateful edge about her, and did a good job straw manning the poor guy. Agree, little or no point to the story. Eight minutes of my life lost.

In her apparently true "godless perv" story, she picks up a great looking guy who she's happy is an ex-Mormon and takes him back to her apartment. When they are about to go all the way, the guy is reluctant to put on a condom. Rebecca fantasizes that the guy, being an ex-Mormon, believes he has super-sperm since he wants her also be on birth control. When he gives in and agrees to do it with the condom, she tells him to "get the **** out of my apartment." Apparently, the point to the story is how proud she was to have turned down sex with a great looking guy because of what she assumed he was thinking.
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This is a pretty good summary of her talk. I found it a rather disturbing presentation. Not the stuff about sex and condoms, but the ridiculous straw-manning she does with the "Mormon Super Sperm" diatribe. Further, as Rebecca is known to embroider her own position in things (any doubt of that statement, please just check her versions of various stories that have witnesses to tell another side), I doubt the conversation she imagines is what really went down, if the event happened at all. Another unwitnessed anecdote in the canon of Watson lore.
 
Morchella said:
You know that maybe condoms are not 100% effective for birth control but they are great for stopping transmission of HPV, HSV and lots of other STDs. The fact that the guy resisted using a condom when asked tells me he is a stupid dick and not worth the time. It's her body so if she decides to tell him to take a hike then that's OK with me and if you disagree then you are a misogynist POS.
I know it's just a few on this forum contributing to this thread but the continued whiney conversation only makes you all look ever more incorrigibly ignorant about women and human rights.
I see nothing wrong with the idea of A+. I like PZ from reading his blog. I can't slag a guy for being a feminist. There is nothing wrong with that either. A+ is only humanism for atheists who don't want to be bothered with all the other humanists who are spiritual and religious. It's just another term for secular humanism. PZ is right. You can't be a skeptic and religious at the same time. It's classic cognitive dissonance.
Rebecca was right, I get it. The guy in the elevator was being a creep. Why all the blowback. I only know Rebecca from listening to SGU. I like her contribution and enjoy her personality. All the vitriol directed towards her is just a bunch of guys having a hissy fit over nothing. Get a life.
This thread will have to go on without me for now. I doubt I killed it because incorrigible stupidity is human and the continuation of this thread proves it.
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Hysterical much?
 
Morchella said:
I am beginning to think that the haters in this thread are not understanding women very well.
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Well, at least the thesis is clear...

Thus the need for A+.
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... but now you lost me. What's the need that A+ is supposed to meet?

Can you walk us through the thought process? How do we get from "haters in this thread are not understanding women very well" to "the need for A+"?
 
Stout said:
She also fails at SJ at the beginning of her talk. First she calls the man a boy, then she objectifies him. Think I'll go register an account at A+, drop the term "hot girl"...and see what happens;)
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That's not a failure because men can't be objectified because privilege.
 
theprestige said:
Well, at least the thesis is clear...


... but now you lost me. What's the need that A+ is supposed to meet?

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Some of us greatly enjoy watching train wrecks, but don't wish for actual property or persons to come to harm.

Then there's finding something to fill the aching void of Schadenfreudian comedy created when alt.usenet.kooks traffic fell off.
 
Morchella said:
The whole video was about him resisting a condom.
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Nope. It was a really painful video and left me disgusted, but I managed to watch all of it. The whole video was about a (sober, well-mannered, thoughtful, handsome and fit) guy wanting extra protection against potential pregnancy before having sex with (presumably intoxicated) Watson. I'll leave it your imagination why that might be so. But I was left confused why Watson would want to make this embarrassing (to her) incident public. She was the total jerk in that situation, and he was the responsible one, even if maybe ruining the heat of the moment.
 
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