Continuation - Ukraine erupts in riots and general strikes


The problem is that Russia (more specifically, Putler) find this intolerable. He tried his very best to scuttle any sort of Ukrainian opening towards the EU, and even went to war when Ukrainians decided they don't want to rely exclusively on Russia any more.

It's not surprising. Russia accounted for about 24% of Ukrainian exports, versus about 17% of EU. Add in countries that are not oriented towards Russia like Egypt and Turkey, and it's pretty clear that non-Russian bloc is far more important to Ukraine than Russia.

McHrozni
 
Gazprom halts gas deliveries to Kiev

RT said:
Gazprom has confirmed the suspension of gas supplies to Ukraine from 10:00am MSK on July 1. Russia’s gas monopoly will not supply gas to Kiev without prepayment, no matter what price, said company CEO Aleksey Miller on Wednesday.

After trilateral Russia-EU-Ukraine gas talks in Vienna failed on Tuesday, Ukraine’s Naftogaz reported it would cease purchases of Russian gas starting from Wednesday as it didn’t agree on the price. The three parties gathered in Vienna to discuss the terms of the gas deal for the next three months as the previous ‘summer package’ expired.

The Ukrainian company stressed that Kiev would continue gas transit to Gazprom’s customers in Europe “in accordance with the existing transit contract”.

Russia offered Ukraine a discount of $40 per thousand cubic meters on Monday. The price of Russian gas with the discount was $247.18 per 1,000 cubic meters. The same price Ukraine bought gas in the second quarter.

However, Naftogaz refused to sign the deal, saying Kiev was dissatisfied with the price and the discount. [...]


Yup, that's right, Ukraine has gotten gas at discount prices all the time from the evil "invader". Now they will have to do again what they have developed as a nice tradition: steal it from the Europeans who are so dumb that they "prevented" South Stream and will end up with the decision between leaky "transit" through Ukraine and dealing with Sultan Erdogan and maybe something not nice that will come out of the Greek tragedy. Well, at least they are intending to build a second pipe of Nordstream so Germany will be fine.
 
Gazprom halts gas deliveries to Kiev




Yup, that's right, Ukraine has gotten gas at discount prices all the time from the evil "invader". Now they will have to do again what they have developed as a nice tradition: steal it from the Europeans who are so dumb that they "prevented" South Stream and will end up with the decision between leaky "transit" through Ukraine and dealing with Sultan Erdogan and maybe something not nice that will come out of the Greek tragedy. Well, at least they are intending to build a second pipe of Nordstream so Germany will be fine.

Except that the said "discount" is actually payment for transit of gas to Gazprom's only customers. Without it, Gazprom is bust, and so is Russia. It's a truly exploitative relationship Putler has forced onto Ukraine - Ukraine only gets paid for transit if it buys gas from Russia.

McHrozni
 
Once again amused at someone who makes such a big deal as being a violent anti imperalists defends Russian Imperailism.
 
Once again amused at someone who makes such a big deal as being a violent anti imperalists defends Russian Imperailism.

For many, the search for Mr. Goodbar is over. His name is Vladimir. He has a broad chest and piercing eyes. Many live vicariously through him. Many long to be annexed by him.
 
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Once again amused at someone who makes such a big deal as being a violent anti imperalists defends Russian Imperailism.

That's because they don't actually oppose imperialism, or even know what imperialism is. They oppose spread of western ideas, and readily welcome anyone who opposes them - no matter how ridiculous their position becomes.

I also find it rather amusing myself. :)

McHrozni
 
The boys are coming home: Show of power: Right Sector nationalists ready to send ‘19 battalions’ to Kiev

RT said:
[...] Overall, the organization issued a list of five demands authorities must fulfil to avoid escalation: first of all they demand the resignation of Avakov; secondly – prosecution of local authorities in Carpathian region; a separate legal action against local MP Mikhail Lanya and his “gang”; and finally Right Sector demands the release of those they called “prisoners of the new regime.”

Right Sector activists are holding rallies in 17 cities across Ukraine in support of the radical brigade, which they present as heroes who were standing against corrupt authorities and acted in self-defense. “The protests have been announced in Kiev, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, Zaporozhye, Ternopol, Mariupol, Kherson, Kramatorsk, Poltava and other cities of Ukraine,” the statement on the organization’s website says.

On Saturday, up to two dozen heavily armed fighters wearing camouflage uniform and bearing Right Sector insignia engaged in conflict with local authorities, business owners and police. As they were trying to flee the scene, the gang members were shooting Kalashnikovs and heavy machineguns mounted on their SUVs, as well as grenade launchers. After the shootout the Ukrainian security forces said that three attackers were killed and a total of 10 people, including five law enforcement officers, were injured.

The group took shelter in the woods on the outskirts of Mukachevo, and have so far refused to surrender and lay down arms without Yarosh’s orders, threatening to open fire if authorities move in to detain them. [...]


This is happening in the very west of Ukraine near the Hungarian border.
 
Apparently Ukraine is ready to deal with the right-wing extremist threat within their borders. Too bad Russia is going the opposite way. If only Putler could learn from his western neighbor.

McHrozni

I don't like this new MHcznori.
The old one would have known that these extremists are controlled by the soviets.
This is just a lame half step back coupled with "What about putin?" (Aka. whataboutism)
Of course accusing whataboutism actually is whataboutism.
So I'll play: I am not aware of current problems within russia with armed right wing groups, threatening to attack government institutions. Care to enlighten me?
I am aware though that a year ago there was an incident in the US at some Ranch where rightwing armed groups where a problem. Clive Bundy I believe?
 
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Lvov regional administration building:


They threaten to burn it down if their comrades in the woods of Mukachevo get hurt. Apparently this happens at about a dozen municipal buildings in the region. Police seems absent, which is a shame because at least in Kiev they have such fancy new uniforms which almost look like in a Police Academy movie. Might be a hint at who payed for it (Yankistani taxpayer). ;):D

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Robert Parry's latest on the Nazi escalation and more is a good read: The Mess that Nuland Made

Robert Parry said:
As the Ukrainian army squares off against ultra-right and neo-Nazi militias in the west and violence against ethnic Russians continues in the east, the obvious folly of the Obama administration’s Ukraine policy has come into focus even for many who tried to ignore the facts, or what you might call “the mess that Victoria Nuland made.”

Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs “Toria” Nuland was the “mastermind” behind the Feb. 22, 2014 “regime change” in Ukraine, plotting the overthrow of the democratically elected government of President Viktor Yanukovych while convincing the ever-gullible U.S. mainstream media that the coup wasn’t really a coup but a victory for “democracy.”

To sell this latest neocon-driven “regime change” to the American people, the ugliness of the coup-makers had to be systematically airbrushed, particularly the key role of neo-Nazis and other ultra-nationalists from the Right Sektor. For the U.S.-organized propaganda campaign to work, the coup-makers had to wear white hats, not brown shirts.

So, for nearly a year and a half, the West’s mainstream media, especially The New York Times and The Washington Post, twisted their reporting into all kinds of contortions to avoid telling their readers that the new regime in Kiev was permeated by and dependent on neo-Nazi fighters and Ukrainian ultra-nationalists who wanted a pure-blood Ukraine, without ethnic Russians. [...]


Further down the article, I had a bitter chuckle over this one:

Robert Parry said:
[...] America’s neocons at The Washington Post and elsewhere still rant about the need for the Obama administration to sink more billions upon billions of dollars into post-coup Ukraine because it “shares our values.” But that argument, too, is collapsing as Americans see the heart of a racist nationalism beating inside Ukraine’s new order. [...]


Do they? Or is it too common a sight to be noticed?
 
Interesting take on the Mukachevo stand-down from a site I came to know from the few months I follow it to come from an anti-Putin perspective without the usual foaming at the mouth. I have no problems believing their versions of events here. It's like with other ideologues the Empire uses as foot soldiers: If you're in rural Syria or Iraq, you might be pleased if Daesh takes over from so-called "rebels" of the "Free Syrian Army" variety, because you know that they will literally cut your hand off if they catch you stealing, but the local mafia don will be a head shorter soon. They mean it.

Grim perspectives.
 
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The putschists in Kiev are foaming at the mouth about a French parliamentary delegation visiting Crimea. One clown even threatened to throw them in jail. Their lies are being exposed, again. Poor babies.

French embassy in Kiev accused of spreading lies about French war cemetery in Sevastopol

TASS said:
SEVASTOPOL, July 24 /TASS/. The French embassy in Kiev, Ukraine, has spread lies about the French military cemetery in Sevastopol, which it described to be in miserable condition, and Russia’s plans to launch real estate development projects in its territory, Russian State Duma Deputy Leonid Slutsky told TASS on Friday. [...]

He clarified that the French embassy in Kiev had got the false information from Ukrainian authorities. [...]

Earlier on Friday, the delegation of the French lawmakers who have paid a two-day visit to Crimea, laid wreaths at the memorial to French soldiers located in the territory of a military cemetery in Sevastopol. The delegation’s head, Thierry Mariani, described the provision of false information about the memorial’s state as a provocation "unworthy of French diplomacy."

"What they told us turned out to be wrong. The memorial is not in miserable condition and is not under threat," Mariani told journalists.

He added that the situation with the French war memorial had proven once again the need of getting firsthand information to get the real picture. [...]
 
...Yankistani taxpayer

Really? I agree the place lost its collective mind decades ago (1980), and is in complete denial since, using merely declarative 'proofs' of greatness that make sane men cringe at the often knuckle-dragging poverty of concept.

Are you wishing to defend the ideas stemming from the Enlightenment? This is only possible under - wait - the same sorry political systems being condemned in sweeping fashion. I include my own comments above in that, but at least I am aware of the fact.

Or perhaps, to the contrary, there are ideas/systems you feel ought be imposed by fiat?

But -stani? For crying out loud. Takes sucking a lollipop laced with morphine to make that false equivalence. Please do not lump the US or the West in with those retrograde absolutist dullards, stuck listening to a skipping record playing nightmarish music... and liking it.
 
Poor babies.


Kiev government warns it will react if Italian, Hungarian deputies go to Crimea

TASS said:
KIEV, July 29. /TASS/. Kiev government will definitely come up with a reaction if Italian and Hungarian parliament members visit Crimea, the press secretary of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, Maryana Betsa, told a news briefing on Wednesday.

If the visit does take place, "the reaction to it and the consequences will be guaranteed," Betsa said. [...]


:rolleyes:
 
Pretty interesting interview with Ukrainian-born US citizen Valentina Lisitsa, the pianist who was recently banned from performing with the Toronto Symphony Orchestra because the ultra-nationalist Ukrainian-Canadian lobby didn't like her tweets.

 
Please do not lump the US or the West in with those retrograde absolutist dullards, stuck listening to a skipping record playing nightmarish music... and liking it.
While I appreciate a tortured metaphor as much as the next guy, it's notable that the only state ever really governed by the retrograde absolutist dullards banned music altogether.
 

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