Continuation - Ukraine erupts in riots and general strikes

[caveman1917]

Actually it's a fact.

http://www.worldcrunch.com/opinion-...remism-nationalism-ukraine-conflict/c7s15880/

More nonsense. Again, provide a far left publication that states what you claim.

You forgot to spin Putler's brownshirts that were captured in Ukraine. Please try to explain it away, you're always so funny when you do

Are you still in that fantasy world where you don't understand that people have long since figured out what you're trying to do in this thread?

 

[LSSBB]

More nonsense. Again, provide a far left publication that states what you claim.



Are you still in that fantasy world where you don't understand that people have long since figured out what you're trying to do in this thread?

References here:

Strange bedfellows: Putin, the Chomskyite left and the ghosts of the Cold War

The example in question:

Stephen F. Cohen

 

[Belz...]

Russia occupied and annexed Crimea, contrary to international law and setting a dangerous precedences. When will they hold a referendum on independence of Chechnya, I wonder?

Peace of Westphalia: OVER.

 

[Belz...]

Putler has significant support from both the extreme leftards and the neo-Nazis.

A lot of far-right war-mongers seem to admire him as well. Seems he atracts idiots from both sides, as is usual.

 

[dudalb]

References here:

Strange bedfellows: Putin, the Chomskyite left and the ghosts of the Cold War

The example in question:

Stephen F. Cohen

BTW Cohen, who has become Putin #1 academic shill in the US,is married to the editor of "The Nation".

I will give Putin credit;he has been good at getting support from both the hard left and the hard right in the US. Anybody who can get a Lefty like Cohen and Pat Buchanan on the same page has got some smarts.

 

[Polaris]

BTW Cohen, who has become Putin #1 academic shill in the US,is married to the editor of "The Nation".

I will give Putin credit;he has been good at getting support from both the hard left and the hard right in the US. Anybody who can get a Lefty like Cohen and Pat Buchanan on the same page has got some smarts.

The common factor, in my opinion, that attracts them to Putin is his naked power plays and aggression, free from the nuisances of check and balance.

 

[LSSBB]

The common factor, in my opinion, that attracts them to Putin is his naked power plays and aggression, free from the nuisances of check and balance.

I think it's more like he is Not U.S.

 

[Polaris]

I think it's more like he is Not U.S.

In Cohen's case possibly, but not Pat Buchanan's.

 

[caveman1917]

References here:

Strange bedfellows: Putin, the Chomskyite left and the ghosts of the Cold War

The example in question:

Stephen F. Cohen

You referred to a - badly argued - opinion piece rather than a far left publication as requested. One piece by Cohen is actually linked to, which does not seem to support the claim.

 

[dudalb]

In Cohen's case possibly, but not Pat Buchanan's.

In the case of the lefties I think is a case of Putin being anti Western Establishment and a lingering hope that he will turn out to be a Marxist at heart; But I think you are dead right about his appell to the right. For all their talk of individual liberty,many on the militant right seem attracted to authoritarian dictators....so long as they are not left in their ideoogies. Not surprising at all for Buchanan,since he is an admirerer of Francisco Franco and others of that ilk. In some of his books he seems to go right up to the border of becoming an apologist for Nazi Germany,but then steps back.

 

[LSSBB]

You referred to a - badly argued - opinion piece rather than a far left publication as requested. One piece by Cohen is actually linked to, which does not seem to support the claim.

Yay, opinion! Everybody has one.

 

[caveman1917]

Yay, opinion! Everybody has one.

So no actual evidence then, who would've thought. The usual "liberal left" debating tricks, quote mining and, at times, outright fabrications in its debates with the far left does not constitute evidence.

It always amazes me how easily the liberal left falls for this, even though it is no different from someone making claims about what democrats say yet when asked for a piece by a democrat supporting this to then link to some "What democrats really think" pieces on the Fox network.

As you said, it is very simple indeed.

 

[jimbob]

http://sputniknews.com/voiceofrussia/news/2013_12_25/British-MP-calls-Putin-man-of-the-year-9453/

George Galloway counts as hard left

 

[LSSBB]

So no actual evidence then, who would've thought. The usual "liberal left" debating tricks, quote mining and, at times, outright fabrications in its debates with the far left does not constitute evidence.

It always amazes me how easily the liberal left falls for this, even though it is no different from someone making claims about what democrats say yet when asked for a piece by a democrat supporting this to then link to some "What democrats really think" pieces on the Fox network.

As you said, it is very simple indeed.

Yay, more opinion, on my opinion, of your opinion, of other's opinion, of someone's opinion. Peeling the opinion!

 

[caveman1917]

http://sputniknews.com/voiceofrussia/news/2013_12_25/British-MP-calls-Putin-man-of-the-year-9453/

George Galloway counts as hard left

First, this is not a far left publication as requested. Second, this is from 2013 before the Ukrainian conflict (it was at the very beginning of the Maidan protests). Nor does this refer to Ukraine, it refers to Syria. Here are Galloway's statements provided in the article:

President Putin is my man of the year, and I don't see how anyone could stand up against that nomination. He really has played a blinder, first of all on the Snowden affair and then seizing the moment: I mean, John Kerry was in London when he presented that opportunity, when he said at a press conference with William Hague beside him, he said that the only thing that can stop this "imminent" attack is for President Assad to give up his chemical weapons in entirety. And as soon as I heard that, I realized that an opening has just presented itself.

If you don't get a Nobel Peace Prize for that, I'm not sure what you'd get it for? Perhaps like Obama you get it for actually creating war and mayhem around the world

As a short background, we have the government of Syria in armed conflict with rebels. A chemical attack occurred. The US subsequently threatened the Syrian government with "imminent attack". Putin proposed a diplomatic solution, which was eventually adopted, thereby preventing a US attack on Syria.

Galloway's argument is hence based on whether preventing a war is something you'd get a Nobel Peace Prize for. Could you explain, in detail, your issue with that argument?

Have you noticed that you are using Russian media? It's not like they might leave out any parts where Galloway criticized Putin or something, right? See the first point in this post.

 

[Childlike Empress]

After several failed attempts in the past, yesterday Alexei Mozgovoi was assassinated. One of the few people in this circus who took the idea of a "people's republic" seriously and had the brain (his callsign) to make it happen. Before madness broke out, he was a poet and singer. RIP.

 

[Border Reiver]

Classy site CE.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Classy site CE.

Dull comment BR.

 

[Border Reiver]

Why would a site with a large amount of content dedicated to "Jewish banking", the "World ZOG" and other such anti-Semitic classics get a more in-depth analysis?

 

[Childlike Empress]

Why would a site with a large amount of content dedicated to "Jewish banking", the "World ZOG" and other such anti-Semitic classics get a more in-depth analysis?

The item I linked to has translation of primary sources and videos. It's completely irrelevant (and I didn't even notice) that in other items the author uses terms like ZOG that might have triggered your comment. It just shows that you don't care one bit about this assassination.