Continuation The Electric Comet Theory Boogaloo (Part 2)

[Lukraak_Sisser]

@Lukraak_Sisser

Ahhh... grasshopper you have much to learn!

That is a total non-answer.

I know I have much to learn. But I am willing to admit when what I know is wrong.
But unlike you, I am convinced by actual evidence, backed by repeatable experiments.

Just build your EU tapping engine in miniature and use it to keep a model airplane aloft without an internal power source. That alone should be Nobel prize material.

Of course the fact that you talked about the need to store an infinite all accessible form of power shows how truly little you understand how electricity works.

 

[tusenfem]

Ahhhhh....just a question on the "very turbulent mixing" Tusenfem, how do you mathematically model that? (Lurkers, it's the real reason mainstream hate the ELECTRIC UNIVERSE or more specifically PLASMA)

On the other hand what Haig and I are trying to say is, the comet and the solar wind have all the criteria to satisfy both types of double layer formation and the best mainstream can come up with is a diamagnetic cavity???

Ah ohkayy, the electric universe uses blood plasma to model stars! Thanks sol88 to clear that up for us, now things are starting to make sense.

The turbulent mixing you model using appropriate computer models such as C. Koenders and M. Rubin are running.

Well, just don't just say it that you and Haig think that the criteria are there, show it, by actually modeling it. It should not be too difficult, just write up in full detail what the criteria are and how you think things are happening and how the motion of the boundary of the diamagnetic cavity (or in your case double layer) inward and outward, takes place.

And of course, please explain us why the formation of a double layer suddenly lets the magnetic field strength drop by more than an order of magnitude, and probably to actually zero. That is probably something that is known in the electric universe, however, mainstream never measured such a thing.

 

[Sol88]

Well, obviously it's some kind of conspiracy by 'Big Physics' and the oil industry

Oh I was wondering what was going on...1996 last time we did anything with tethers, why Captain Swoop?

Electrodynamic Tethers

Unlike chemical and rocket systems, which must expell a propellant to create thrust, an electrodynamic tether generates thrust through Lorentz-force interactions with a planetary magnetic field. By using the space environment to create thrust, electrodynamic tether systems can dramatically reduce the cost of many space missions by eliminating the need to launch large quantities of propellant into orbit.

 

[Sol88]

Ah ohkayy, the electric universe uses blood plasma to model stars! Thanks sol88 to clear that up for us, now things are starting to make sense.

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Ahhh Tusenfem a little history maybe

As he (Irving Langmuir) continued to study filaments in vacuum and different gas environments, he began to study the emission of charged particles from hot filaments (thermionic emission). He was one of the first scientists to work with plasmas and was the first to call these ionized gases by that name, because they reminded him of blood plasma.[9] Langmuir and Tonks discovered electron density waves in plasmas that are now known as Langmuir waves.

 

[Sol88]

Dust Levitation on Asteroids

Great little read!

 

[Sol88]

Ah ohkayy, the electric universe uses blood plasma to model stars! Thanks sol88 to clear that up for us, now things are starting to make sense.

The turbulent mixing you model using appropriate computer models such as C. Koenders and M. Rubin are running.

Well, just don't just say it that you and Haig think that the criteria are there, show it, by actually modeling it. It should not be too difficult, just write up in full detail what the criteria are and how you think things are happening and how the motion of the boundary of the diamagnetic cavity (or in your case double layer) inward and outward, takes place.

And of course, please explain us why the formation of a double layer suddenly lets the magnetic field strength drop by more than an order of magnitude, and probably to actually zero. That is probably something that is known in the electric universe, however, mainstream never measured such a thing.

Tell me more, Tusenfem about comet 17P/Holmes diamagnetic cavity?

Sublimation you say, we forgot that little chestnut, ay Tusenfem

 

[tusenfem]

Tell me more, Tusenfem about comet 17P/Holmes diamagnetic cavity?

Sublimation you say, we forgot that little chestnut, ay Tusenfem

Just show me the in-situ data and I will explain ...

Interesting though, how we always have to explain everthing to you, when all you sprout out is just wild claims. It's the creatoinists all over again. Any chance that you are actually going to answer some of the questions/excersizes I (and others) have put to you?

 

[tusenfem]

Ahhh Tusenfem a little history maybe

No, Sol, I am quite aware from where the name comes, for one thing I got an edumacation! But a link to blood plasma in your post made no sense whatsoever, it's no problem just to admid you did the wrong thing.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

@Lukraak_Sisser

Ahhh... grasshopper you have much to learn!

And yet you and haig have so little to teach. Pity, that. We keep asking questions you keep not answering. And the answers you do provide are so wrong!

 

[Reality Check]

Enhanced diamagnetic perturbations and electric currents observed
downstream of the high power helicon

Compare the properties of the diamagnetic cavity to the properties of the double layer in these two pdf's ...

The Role Of Current-Free Double-Layers In Plasma Propulsion

Fantasies are not science, Haig.
A diamagnetic cavity around a comet is not like an imaginary double layer around a comet just like it is not like pink unicorns around a comet !

The main ignorance here is citing papers about propulsion systems as if you were ignorant about what comets are. FYI Haig, we did not construct 67P and it is not a propulsion system !

 

[Reality Check]

two answers to that me 'ol mate

That is a lie, Sol88, because neither of your links are about the EC delusion or the even more deluded Thunderbolts authors.

 

[Reality Check]

Oh I was wondering what was going on...1996 last time we did anything with tethers, why Captain Swoop?

What is going on is a dumb derailing of the thread into the irrelevant subject of electromagnetic tethers because you are desperate to avoid actual science about the EC delusion, Sol88!
Just like the idiocy of derailing onto spacecraft charging.

All you can do is mindlessly beilieve in Velikovsky's delusion that planets zoomed around the Solar System to explain various myths in recent times and the extra layer of delusion added by the Thunderbolts authors that results in the EC delusion..

There are inane demands for things you will deny yet again:
28 July 2015 Sol88: You are too obsessed with your delusion that comets are rocks to ever accept any explanation for anything from anyone.

You provide further evidence that the EC idea is delusional:
17 August 2015 Sol88: The fact that Rosetta has not become a comet while travelling with 67P debunks the electric comet delusion once again!
17 August 2015 Sol88: Another debunking of the EC delusion with imaginary "electrical discharges" from flatlands!

You lie about comets:
A repeated lie about no surface ice being found on comets.

You make unfounded claims:
11 August 2015 Sol88: Please provide the evidence for your fantasy about double layers around comets
17 August 2015 Sol88: Please cite your evidence for "stretched the picture of the bright pencil thin jet"

There have been 60 days and counting of being afraid of doing simple physics: 25 June 2015 Sol88: Use a impact calculator to calculate the size of the crater on a comet made of rock by the Deep Impact impactor.

 

[Reality Check]

Dust Levitation on Asteroids

Really great illustration of the delusion that comets are asteroids, Sol88.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Oh I was wondering what was going on...1996 last time we did anything with tethers, why Captain Swoop?

What has your link got to do with Comets and the EU? I see a link to an aerospace engineering company using mainstream physics and engineering.

 

[Matthew Cline]

On the other hand what Haig and I are trying to say is, the comet and the solar wind have all the criteria to satisfy both types of double layer formation and the best mainstream can come up with is a diamagnetic cavity???

Wait, "come up with"? Wasn't the diamagnetic cavity observed?

 

[Reality Check]

On the other hand what Haig and I are trying to say is, the comet and the solar wind have all the criteria to satisfy both types of double layer formation and the best mainstream can come up with is a diamagnetic cavity???

No, Sol88: What you and Haig are arguing from a stance of obsession and ignorance about double layers is that they exist anywhere you want them to exist.
You cannot do basic physics so are probably ignorant of the criteria needed for the formation of double layers.
There have been 60 days and counting of being afraid of doing simple physics: 25 June 2015 Sol88: Use a impact calculator to calculate the size of the crater on a comet made of rock by the Deep Impact impactor.

Haig seems equally ignorant. Haig do you want to try the basic physics that Sol88 cannot do?

The best that the mainstream can come up with is the real world where a diamagnetic cavity was observed at 67P.

 

[Sol88]

Just show me the in-situ data and I will explain ...

Interesting though, how we always have to explain everthing to you, when all you sprout out is just wild claims. It's the creatoinists all over again. Any chance that you are actually going to answer some of the questions/excersizes I (and others) have put to you?

Because the mainstream tell such outrageous concocted contradictory stories it's actually fun watching grown men and women (and Reality Check) believe whole heartedly in them, bit like creationist!

Long time ago far far away....

Except the comet 67P isn't following your story!

Take Holger Sierks story about the jets source is the flatlands, NOT pits!

but we were told a few weeks back the cliffs drive the activity!

So mixed up and confused your average Joe gives up and "leave" it to the experts...YOU

YOUR dirtysnowball sublimating in the Sun story has now come to and end but you are having trouble coming up with an satisfactory ending as witnessed by the complete lack anything with substance in the "science" of comets!

Not even a flurry of non stretched NAVCAM images! Poor show that 'ol chaps

 

[tusenfem]

Wait, "come up with"? Wasn't the diamagnetic cavity observed?

Well observations for Sol88 are pictures, and it is hard to measure the diamagnetic cavity with a picture.

 

[Reality Check]

...snipped delusions...

Which leaves nothing from a cult follower of Velikovsky's delusion that planets zoomed around the Solar System to explain various myths in recent times and the extra layer of delusion added by the Thunderbolts authors that results in the EC delusion..

Sol88's other delusion is the inane obsession with Holger Sierks statements about the real world of 67P. Holger Sierks has stated that
* Jets are seen from cliffs.
* Jets are seen from pits.
* Jets are seen from flatlands.
Those are the sources of jets .

There is the idiocy of yet again emphasizing facts that debunk the EC delusion!
17 August 2015 Sol88: The fact that Rosetta has not become a comet while travelling with 67P debunks the electric comet delusion once again!
17 August 2015 Sol88: Another debunking of the EC delusion with imaginary "electrical discharges" from flatlands!

An insane bit about "non stretched NAVCAM images":
11 August 2015 Sol88: Please provide the evidence for your fantasy about double layers around comets
17 August 2015 Sol88: Please cite your evidence for "stretched the picture of the bright pencil thin jet"

And the continuing fear of science. There have been 61 days and counting of being afraid of doing simple physics: 25 June 2015 Sol88: Use a impact calculator to calculate the size of the crater on a comet made of rock by the Deep Impact impactor.

About the only thing that is not in that post is a lie, e.g. A repeated lie about no surface ice being found on comets.

 

[Reality Check]

I think I know where Sol88's delusion about "stretched the picture of the bright pencil thin jet" comes from - ignorance of science !
NAVCAM images are not physically stretched as Sol88 thinks. Some images are intensity-stretched to show the full range of intensities.
Rosetta NAVCAM's Shades of Grey
Still no evidence that "the picture of the bright pencil thin jet" was stretched or intensity-stretched. But Sol88 should be pleased that his delusion that jets are electrical discharges is being "supported" by the jet being made brighter.