Continuation The Electric Comet Theory Boogaloo (Part 2)

[Andy_Ross]

But he used 'albedo' that sounds like a science word, it must be right!

 

[Sol88]

If you are really sure that the jets become from EDM than your "bright patches of higher albedo" are NOT "higher albedo" (which means reflectivity) but are places where EDM is happening so light would be produced there not reflected. If you have an idiot theory, at least try to keep it a little consistent.

Like the ones reflecting from inside the shadow of Rosetta??

or on the surface of Hartley and Tempel??


Still leaves a rather large question for the mainstream to answer and now Ceres has joined the fray.

Unexplained bright patches in conjunction with H2O production and craters!!

 

[tusenfem]

Like the ones reflecting from inside the shadow of Rosetta??

or on the surface of Hartley and Tempel??


Still leaves a rather large question for the mainstream to answer and now Ceres has joined the fray.

Unexplained bright patches in conjunction with H2O production and craters!!

why ask questions, when you are supposed to have the answers?
why not ask questions of your EC buddies, they should have the answers?
And how bright is bright?
and and and

 

[aleCcowaN]

Unexplained bright patches in conjunction with H2O production and critters!!

FIFY

 

[Dancing David]

I bet he would declare them to be coffee grounds.

It would be an ELECTRIC coffee maker

 

[phunk]

Like the ones reflecting from inside the shadow of Rosetta??

Learn the difference between umbra and penumbra and you'll know why "inside the shadow of rosetta" is still in direct sunlight.

Your EDM should be producing light from the dark side of the comet where there is no sunlight.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

It would be an ELECTRIC coffee maker

Two drums and a high hat fell off the stage.

 

[tusenfem]

Learn the difference between umbra and penumbra and you'll know why "inside the shadow of rosetta" is still in direct sunlight.

Your EDM should be producing light from the dark side of the comet where there is no sunlight.

Yeah, that's also something, but as Sol88 does not understand the "physics" that he is quoting, it is useless to point such things out.

 

[tusenfem]

And then KABAHM OSIRIS seems to find evidence for ice at or under the surface of the neck region.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

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Unexplained bright patches in conjunction with H2O production and craters!!
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How are the above features incompatible with ice sublimating and clearing the surface dust off localized patches?

 

[dasmiller]

Unexplained bright patches in conjunction with H2O production and craters!!

In ECH, the EDM process kicks out rock dust which eventually combines with solar wind hydrogen to create H20. If the bright patches are directly producing H20, that would immediately falsify ECH while fitting very nicely with conventional theory.

 

[Matthew Cline]

Learn the difference between umbra and penumbra....

NOTE:xkcd.com allows hotlinking.

 

[Haig]

Congrats. Now it's your turn to ignore the direct questions I asked haig: what specific features are specifically and exclusively characteristic of electrical activity.

You just have to ask nicely

Why Don't Comets Melt in the Sun?

Sungrazer comets that survive perihelion extremely close to the Sun is a longstanding puzzle for comet science. In reality, observations going back centuries reveals that a comet’s activity has little or nothing to do with solar warming. Comets sometimes flare or even explode at impossibly vast distances from the Sun. What does the electric comet theory tell us about these enduring comet mysteries?

Mysterious Lovejoy Comets

In the last few years, several of the comets discovered by astronomer Terry Lovejoy have provided astronomers on Earth with dramatic and unexpected displays. From the astonishing 2011 journey of comet c/2011 W3, which survived perihelion just 140,000 km above the Sun’s surface, to the recent observation of rapid changes in the plasma tail of comet C/2013 R1. What does the electric universe tell us about these puzzling comet discoveries?

“Baffling” Mars Plumes are Electric

Science news headlines around the world tell of a baffling mystery on the planet Mars. In March of 2012, amateur astronomers spotted enormous plumes jetting from the Martian surface. The plumes were more than 250 KM high and several hundreds of kilometers in length. Similar bright, enormous plumes have occasionally been spotted on Mars since 1997, leaving astronomers completely flustered. What does the Electric Universe tell us about these highly energetic events on Mars?

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

[skyrim courier]
Nope, sorry, nothing.
[/courier]

It seems to me you are unable to comprehend the question, based on the fact you keep "answering" with paragraphs ending in question marks, random links and frankly irrelevant speculative gibbering.

 

[Haig]

[skyrim courier]
Nope, sorry, nothing.
[/courier]

It seems to me you are unable to comprehend the question, based on the fact you keep "answering" with paragraphs ending in question marks, random links and frankly irrelevant speculative gibbering.

It seems to me you are unable to comprehend the answers

Look at those spirals!

Dust Whirls, Swirls and Twirls at Rosetta’s Comet

People starting to wake up and ask excellent questions!

taygatayga March 10, 2015, 2:21 PM
If the activity surrounding the comet is due to heating why is it majorly associated with the neck region which is in shadow more often than the lobes? Also, there is evidently no sign of water ice on the comet surface; is it water that is detected in the coma or a proxy which is assumed to indicate the presence of water and, if so, could there be another source

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

Again with the links and breathless gibbering?

I'm asking again, relating to the link you just posted: what specific features in the 4 images are exclusive of electrical activity, and b) what exclusive and specific features of sublimation driven activity should be present in a non-electric model that are absent.

This should be easy for you, and if you need help you have the entire internet at your fingertips plus whatever help you might get at the electric whatever forum.

Are you really the best and brightest your "theory" has to offer? If I were on the fence about this subject your clueless arm flailing would certainly cause me to doubt your case.

 

[Haig]

Again with the links and breathless gibbering?

I'm asking again, relating to the link you just posted: what specific features in the 4 images are exclusive of electrical activity, and b) what exclusive and specific features of sublimation driven activity should be present in a non-electric model that are absent.

This should be easy for you, and if you need help you have the entire internet at your fingertips plus whatever help you might get at the electric whatever forum.

Are you really the best and brightest your "theory" has to offer? If I were on the fence about this subject your clueless arm flailing would certainly cause me to doubt your case.

Not so fast!

I've given answers to your questions if you can't understand them, that's tough

How about you trying to answer the questions posted above and again here ... in case you get confused

taygatayga March 10, 2015, 2:21 PM
If the activity surrounding the comet is due to heating why is it majorly associated with the neck region which is in shadow more often than the lobes? Also, there is evidently no sign of water ice on the comet surface; is it water that is detected in the coma or a proxy which is assumed to indicate the presence of water and, if so, could there be another source?

 

[dasmiller]

It seems to me you are unable to comprehend the answers

Look at those spirals!

Dust Whirls, Swirls and Twirls at Rosetta’s Comet

People starting to wake up and ask excellent questions!

If the water in the coma is being formed by solar wind hydrogen combining with oxygen liberated by EDM (per ECH), shouldn't we expect a lot of the liberated oxygen would be monatomic rather than O2, leading to a lot of OH in the coma? Wouldn't we expect mostly O and O2 near the nucleus, with OH and H20 farther out?

The linked article mentions a lot of CO and CO2 in the coma, sometimes even dominating the H2O. Under ECH, does that mean that sometimes the solar wind is predominantly carbon rather than hydrogen?

ETA: Or are these not "excellent questions?"

 

[Haig]

If the water in the coma is being formed by solar wind hydrogen combining with oxygen liberated by EDM (per ECH), shouldn't we expect a lot of the liberated oxygen would be monatomic rather than O2, leading to a lot of OH in the coma? Wouldn't we expect mostly O and O2 near the nucleus, with OH and H20 farther out?

The linked article mentions a lot of CO and CO2 in the coma, sometimes even dominating the H2O. Under ECH, does that mean that sometimes the solar wind is predominantly carbon rather than hydrogen?

ETA: Or are these not "excellent questions?"

Ask what you think are "excellent questions?" HERE if you really want answers

Re: 'Welease Wosetta!'
Postby GaryN » Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:48 pm

"Comets do not need perihelion solar heat to flare up. The scant trace of ice isn't sublimating to create the coma as they describe it. If anything, the ice is deposited onto the surface as some of the created water vapor falls back. This is the reverse of what ESA believes."

And I believe you are more likely correct.

 

[dasmiller]

Ask what you think are "excellent questions?" HERE if you really want answers

Nothing on that page addressed the chemical composition of the coma or the solar wind.

If you understand the ECH concepts well enough to defend them, then defend them. If you don't, why do you think they're more correct than the mainstream?