Continuation The Electric Comet Theory Boogaloo (Part 2)

[Jrrarglblarg]

This thread gives me depression!

Don't be a protuberance about it. I find it electrifying. Letting the sun shine on this subject is truly sublime.

 

[aleCcowaN]

This thread gives me depression!

Surely not by its non-educational nature.

By its own rules and history, the whole forum is set to keep naive epistemological hedonists at bay without fighting epistemological hedonism at all, and this "thread" (4200 posts) is one of the most outstanding examples of it.

 

[Tolls]

To me it looks a lot like it was nibbled by a giant Space Goat.

Oh, I like that idea.
Do you happen to have a you tube vid putting forth this interesting theory?

 

[Dancing David]

Tell us, what exact experiments has the EC / EU group done to actually show that electrical discharges would etch rock at all? And what Amperage/Voltage/Time is needed to achieve this? Because everything known by mainstream science about electricity, backed up by a LOT of experimental evidence, would suggest this would not happen.

The proof is that David Talbot thinks so....

 

[dasmiller]

Looks a little like you'd expect EDM too look like! Etching away at the rock in circular scalloped depressions

Looks very little like I'd expect EDM to look. I'd expect to EDMs to appear as points rather than areas. And I'd expect those brilliant arcs to illuminate the nearby territory in a way that is conspicuously absent in the picture.

 

[ferd burfle]

Looks a little like you'd expect EDM too look like! Etching away at the rock in circular scalloped depressions

The whole EDM idea is preposterous. EDM is a method of machining metals, not rocks. A power supply capable of generating a specialized waveform is required.

But fear not, kind readers, the proponents of the Magical Magnetic Comet Story are bound to have another hand-waving "explanation" at the ready.

 

[Reality Check]

Looks a little like you'd expect EDM too look like! ...

Looks more like what a person ignorant or deluded enough to think that comets are rocks and about EDM would fantasize surfaces from Electrical Discharge Machining to look like.


Actual Electrical Discharge Machining surface images do not look like 67P comet images - no big cliffs for example. Of course if you go looking for them you find plenty of the Thunderbolts delusions about EDM.


In the real universe, Electrical Discharge Machining cannot happen on comets - no electrical discharges especially thorough a dielectric liquid!

 

[Sol88]

Looks very little like I'd expect EDM to look. I'd expect to EDMs to appear as points rather than areas. And I'd expect those brilliant arcs to illuminate the nearby territory in a way that is conspicuously absent in the picture.

Seems the "jets" also like this area!

 

[jonesdave116]

Seems the "jets" also like this area!

Good for them. Gotta be better than sharing with the Giants.

 

[Reality Check]

Seems the "jets" also like this area!

What "jets" in what area, Sol88?
What has this to do with the delusion of EDM on a comet, Sol88?

The real jets actually "like" the neck of 67P since that is where they started.

 

[Sol88]

Ummmm....those would be the "jets" that seem to emanate from all over the comet and these ones from the Imhotep region HERE and HERE seem to come from this area overall.

The jets seem to issue from a diffuse bright dusty areas but no pits,fissures or pressurized orifices to be seen.

 

[aleCcowaN]

I bet you would do much better reading tea leaves.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

I bet you would do much better reading tea leaves.

I bet he would declare them to be coffee grounds.

 

[LSSBB]

Ummmm....those would be the "jets" that seem to emanate from all over the comet and these ones from the Imhotep region HERE and HERE seem to come from this area overall.

The jets seem to issue from a diffuse bright dusty areas but no pits,fissures or pressurized orifices to be seen.

Sublimation Process - A Chemistry Phenomenon:

 

[Sol88]

I bet you would do much better reading tea leaves.

No, tried that!

All I could see was sublimating deep fried ice cream!

All the monies now on sublimating SUB surface ice!

Just need to find the subsurface ice (or any for that matter) and the matter is settled , so why is it so hard to find?

 

[Reality Check]

Ummmm....those would be the "jets" that seem to emanate from all over the comet and these ones from the Imhotep region HERE and HERE seem to come from this area overall.

The jets seem to issue from a diffuse bright dusty areas but no pits,fissures or pressurized orifices to be seen.

You mean all over the comet including the neck as strictly forbidden by the electric comet delusion, Sol88?

You link to images from a long distance from 67P and expect to see jets to always come out of visible pits !
CometWatch 20 February

Today’s CometWatch entry is a single frame NAVCAM image obtained on 20 February from a distance of 118.5 km from the centre of Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko. The image has a resolution of 10.1 m/pixel and measures 10.3 km across.

Imhotep from afar – CometWatch 16 February

Here are "jet-like features" visibly coming from a pit, Sol88 !
Active pit

Active pit detected in Seth region of Comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko. This is an OSIRIS narrow-angle camera image acquired on 28 August 2014 from a distance of 60 km. The image resolution is 1 m/pixel. Enhancing the contrast (right) reveals fine structures in the shadow of the pit, interpreted as jet-like features rising from the pit

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

No, tried that!

All I could see was sublimating deep fried ice cream!

All the monies now on sublimating SUB surface ice!

Just need to find the subsurface ice (or any for that matter) and the matter is settled , so why is it so hard to find?

Rectocranial inversion and lack of relevant academic experience can lower reading comprehension. Scientists actually doing science don't seem to be having any problems. Just sayin'.

 

[Sol88]

Here are "jet-like features" visibly coming from a pit, Sol88 !

From the pit??? or from the overexposed pit rim??

If you notice the other "bright" ridge just to the middle right of the image, there too is a jet.

Are you Reality Check saying here is the evidence for a geological feature on comet 67P to produce a collimated jet?

Seems as a matter of observation including rectocranial inversion techniques and extreme lack of relevant academic experience, makes my minds eye keeps seeing "bright" patches of higher albedo surface in very close association with levitating dust and jets!

like Hartley 2 and Tempel 1

just say'n

 

[tusenfem]

Just need to find the subsurface ice (or any for that matter) and the matter is settled , so why is it so hard to find?

Maybe because subsurface ice is like below the surface?

 

[tusenfem]

... my minds eye keeps seeing "bright" patches of higher albedo surface in very close association with levitating dust and jets!

If you are really sure that the jets become from EDM than your "bright patches of higher albedo" are NOT "higher albedo" (which means reflectivity) but are places where EDM is happening so light would be produced there not reflected. If you have an idiot theory, at least try to keep it a little consistent.