Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

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This appears to be a PacMan outside of a Video Game Machine. How is this even possible!?!
 
Where are the other plane parts and what were their original positions? Or is this just apart of some plane that had been sitting in the desert?

If there is actually a plane debris field, why couldn't the recorders have been found?

This fuselage could be some unusual wall hanging they had in one of their offices at the towers?

Or is this another one those, we have this evidence and because you can't make us show them, we won't be getting to see them things.

Has a data catalog been created?
 
tempesta29 said:
Why do you people keep telling me that the upper sections fell at less than g when that isn't even relevant to the argument I'm making? I'm referring to these masses' rate of acceleration remaining unchanged through the crash zones. Are you dodging or simply unable to comprehend when you read?

It's as if you can't read, but I know the truth is that you're simply desperate.
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You have no clue what acceleration is. You are unable to comprehend physics, 911, and more. Add acceleration to your list.

You can't do physics, your failed to do the physics to understand you have no clue what you are talking about. Why do you fail to take the time to learn physics.

If we model the WTC, the impact speed of the top section on the floor below would be 8.52m/s but at impact the speed is 7.86m/s. Darn, we all know in an idealized model the speed varies. Why can't you do physics? What is your conclusion? Are you an inside job truther?

19 terrorists did 911, and 911 truth can't do physics to make a rational conclusion.
 
DeathDart said:
The lack of evidence for the plane fed the TRUTHERs. So how muuh more of the plane has been found.
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Put down those goalposts. You said none of the planes was found. That photo is of part of the planes. You were wrong.

Or did this come from one of them desert plane graveyards?
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Yeah, it was stealthily smuggled into the crash site from the nearest desert, through New York, over the bridges/on the ferry to Manhattan, where it was planted under tons of debris in a debris site* with cops and FDNY and thousands of news cameras, by the same people who planted the tons of thermite/boom-boom stealthily in an occupied office building in the middle of one of the busiest cities in the world.

*At least, I'm assuming it's Ground Zero, by the shell of the building in the background.
 
Clayton Moore said:
So all the HUGE and HUGER steel columns should have remained standing?
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Aside from the mechanical floors and the first few floors (which were lobbies and public spaces) the floor structures were all the same - long span joists, metal deck, concrete slabs. If the load landing on the floor structure is more than the slab, joists, and connections can support, the floor fails regardless of how large the columns are. If the load cannot get to the column, the column cannot support it, no matter how huge the column is. Period. This is commonly referred to as only being as strong as your weakest link.

The fact that the columns were stronger in the lower floors is born out by the fact that the core columns of some height in both cases remained standing briefly following the main parts of the collapses. However, the columns are braced by the floors and the other horizontal framing. They could not stand on their own. With the floors largely destroyed, the columns were left unbraced and quickly fell under their own weight (and no doubt the damage done to them as well).
 
DeathDart said:
The “Truther” explanation for the flight recorders is as valid as the official version. The “Truther's” have the FBI appear, find 3 of them, and disappear.
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This "explanation" is insane. It presumes that some FBI agents turned up, had a quick look round a pile containing about a million tons of debris, found three of the flight recorders with very little difficulty, and then waltzed off the same afternoon. Have you never heard the expression "like looking for a needle in a haystack"?

Dave
 
tempesta29 said:
I don't know how you could possibly know how much the center of mass shifted. And how does a small portion of the upper block move in one direction and the rest in another? It's a single mass.
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Its quite evident that you did not understand the explanation.

The Center of mass could be assumed to be in the center of that rectilinear structure known as the upper block. The upper block is KNOWN to have tilted by a set amount before collapse and THUS we can determine how far off from its original position the CoM has moved. THUS we can, and in the pages of this forum HAVE in the past, calculated that only a small percentage of the upper block would have been beyond the confines of the footprint of the lower section.

PHYSICS tells us that once the pivot is gone the upper blocks small amount of angular momentum will be conserved in rotation of the upper block about that CoM and that the CoM would be moving straight down, THUS very little of the upper block is not going to contact the lower section and THUS there is little difference in effect than there would be if the upper block had stayed upright throughout.

CLEAR NOW?

Even still, that shift should have been more evident the further down it collapsed, yet the entire lower structure was destroyed. The upper block still fell straight through the lower.
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Why? After a few floors the entire upper block has become rubble itself.
 
Clayton Moore said:
It's public knowledge that many people have lost their jobs for mentioning that 9/11 was an inside job.
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How many people in Germany have lost their jobs because of this? How many people in Japan? How many people in Brazil? In Russia? In China?

You do realize that THE WHOLE WORLD which was referenced means more than the US, right?
 
Dave Rogers said:
This "explanation" is insane. It presumes that some FBI agents turned up, had a quick look round a pile containing about a million tons of debris, found three of the flight recorders with very little difficulty, and then waltzed off the same afternoon. Have you never heard the expression "like looking for a needle in a haystack"?

Dave
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How about a screaming needle?

http://www.inquisitr.com/27038/ir-france-black-box/


http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidence/blackboxes.html
The FAA has placed durability requirements on the recorders and their casings to survive severe impact and fire

The storage medium of each recorder is located in a protective capsule, which must be able to withstand an impact of 3,400 Gs (3,400 times the force of gravity). Additionally, each must also survive flames at 2,000 F for up to 30 minutes, and submersion in 20,000 feet of saltwater for 30 days. Typically, to increase their chances of survival, the recorders are located in the tail section of the aircraft, which usually sustains the least impact in a crash. 8
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DeathDart said:
Where are the other plane parts and what were their original positions? Or is this just apart of some plane that had been sitting in the desert?

If there is actually a plane debris field, why couldn't the recorders have been found?

This fuselage could be some unusual wall hanging they had in one of their offices at the towers?

Or is this another one those, we have this evidence and because you can't make us show them, we won't be getting to see them things.

Has a data catalog been created?
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Stundied.
 
Start with simple incredulity. Mix with a pinch of blind ideology, then stir in a big helping of ignorance.

Ring the dinner bell, boys.
 
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