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Debunker Idiocy I

Why don't the Pentagon videos clearly show a plane?


Enrico Manieri - Henry62
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Translated and adapted by Paolo Attivissimo with the author's permission.

WTF? One verbose, I'm guessing, Italian guy analyzes 5 or so frames of a video and explains why no plane was seen?

Over 80 security videos confiscated and Enrico and the debunkers, with a straight faces, tell us it was mechanically impossible to capture the approaching plane in flight?
 
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Clayton Moore said:
Why don't the Pentagon videos clearly show a plane?


Enrico Manieri - Henry62
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Translated and adapted by Paolo Attivissimo with the author's permission.

WTF? One verbose, I'm guessing, Italian guy analyzes 5 or so frames of a video and explains why no plane was seen?

Over 80 security videos confiscated and this clown and the debunkers, with a straight faces, tell us it was mechanically impossible to capture the approaching plane in flight?
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80 security videos from the Pentagon? Got proof of that?
 
Clayton Moore said:
Why don't the Pentagon videos clearly show a plane?


Enrico Manieri - Henry62
.
Translated and adapted by Paolo Attivissimo with the author's permission.

WTF? One verbose, I'm guessing, Italian guy analyzes 5 or so frames of a video and explains why no plane was seen?

Over 80 security videos confiscated and this clown and the debunkers, with a straight faces, tell us it was mechanically impossible to capture the approaching plane in flight?
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No video, no plane?
 
'Cause you know, when I set up a security camera I make sure it is pointed at a building far away just in case. Why should I want to protect my merchandise or anything?
 
Clayton Moore said:
Why don't the Pentagon videos clearly show a plane?


Enrico Manieri - Henry62
.
Translated and adapted by Paolo Attivissimo with the author's permission.

WTF? One verbose, I'm guessing, Italian guy analyzes 5 or so frames of a video and explains why no plane was seen?

Over 80 security videos confiscated and this clown and the debunkers, with a straight faces, tell us it was mechanically impossible to capture the approaching plane in flight?
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I have a little experiment for you:

1. Take your camera.
2. Go out to a busy street.
3. Find a brick wall.
4. Point the camera at the brick wall and take a picture.
5. Count the cars in the picture.
6. Explain to yourself why there were no cars in the picture.

Now explain to yourself why people put up surveillance cameras, and what this means for their position and aim.

Thank you for playing, and goodbye.

Hans

ETA: I realize this exercise requires you to actually go out into the world. If that is too much for you, you may be able to adapt it for indoor use, e.g. take a picture of your kitchen and find out why it does not show the chairs in your parlor, or something like that.
 
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No video = No plane. Doesn't matter about the witnesses, aircraft debris or passenger DNA.

Truther + Zero logic = FAIL
 
Most security cameras are not like consumer camcorders. Because recording for long times is the highest priority, and not much movement is expected for 99%+ of the time, they are set to record (typically) only a single frame every few seconds, compared to 30 frames (or 60 half-frames) per second for camcorders. They also may use lower resolution and may even record non-color, all of which drastically reduce the storage requirements but the data remains useful if you have to identify a convenience store foreground holdup artist. A 500MPH distant plane, not so much.

A rapidly moving object in the field of view will be poorly captured, if at all.
 
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Hold on, hold on... is the OP clear on the fact that the 80-some surveillance videos were not from the Pentagon to begin with? Rather, that practically all were security cameras from surrounding businesses and the like?

Also, is our commenter here aware that, because they were security cameras at other locations in the area, that a great deal of them showed nothing at all because (surprise, surprise), they weren't pointed at the Pentagon to begin with?
 
If this thread is "Debunker Idiocy I," I think I'll wait for the sequel.

BTW, say hi to Tonto for me.
 
1- If AA77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, what was it then?
2- If AA77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, what struck the lamp poles?
3- If AA77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, what did the eyewitnesses who had identified a Boeing from AA saw?
4- If AA77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, what happened to the passengers?
5- If AA77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, how could the DNAs be recovered?

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If the recovery of the DNAs was faked:

* Do you say that the laboratories which analyzed the DNA falsified the data?
* Do you say that the victims and the terrorists' families were in on it?
* Do you say that the employees of the laboratories falsified the data?
* Do you say that those who redacted the report falsified the data?
* Do you say that the laboratories merely lied instead?


Then:

* How could the bodies of the passengers, still trapped on their seats, be found?
* How can you explain that the damage made exactly matches the dimensions of a Boeing 757?

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* Do you say that these organizations are shills?

Alexandria VA Fire & Rescue, American Airlines, American Red Cross, Arlington County Emergency Medical Services, Arlington County Fire Department, Arlington County Sheriff's Department, Arlington VA Police Department, Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, DiLorenzo TRICARE Health Clinic staff, DeWitt Army Community Hospital staff, District of Columbia Fire & Rescue, DOD Honor Guard, Environmental Protection Agency Hazmat Teams, Fairfax County Fire & Rescue, FBI Evidence Recovery Teams, FBI Hazmat Teams, Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Disaster Medical Assistance Teams, FEMA 68-Person Urban Search and Rescue Teams Maryland Task Force 1, New Mexico Task Force 1, Tennessee Task Force 1, Virginia Task Force 1, Virginia Task Force 2, FEMA Emergency Response Team, Fort Myer Fire Department, Four U.S. Army Chaplains, Metropolitan Airport Authority Fire Unit, Military District of Washington Engineers Search & Rescue Team, Montgomery County Fire & Rescue, U.S. National Guard units, National Naval Medical Center CCRF, National Transportation Safety Board, Pentagon Defense Protective Service, Pentagon Helicopter Crash Response Team, Pentagon Medical Staff, Rader Army Health Clinic Staff, SACE Structural Safety Engineers and Debris Planning and Response Teams, Salvation Army Disaster Services, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, US Army Reserves of Virginia Beach Fairfax County and Montgomery County, Virginia Beach Fire Department, Virginia Department of Emergency Management, Virginia State Police
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* Do you say that AA lied about the existence of the plane?
* Do you say that the FAA lied about the existence of the plane?
* Do you say that if AA doesn't have any flight numbered 77 since September 2001, its purpose is to make us to have the illusion that the flight existed?
* Among the identified eyewitnesses, do you say they are just liars, only on your conviction?
* What are the objective points to say that the debris do NOT belong to the plane (An answer other than "I think that these debris are too small/large" is needed) ?
* What are the objective points to say that a plane could not do the damage (An answer other than "I think that this crash is too incredible to make such a thing blahblahblah" is needed) ?
* Do you think there's another plane which landed somewhere else to bring the passengers in a secret place in order to do something EEEEEVIL?
* Do you think the plane flew over the Pentagon?
* The FDR indicates that the plane was still in contact with the air traffic controllers, even if the pirates turned the transponder off. Do you say that the FDR which is available on the Internet is faked?
* What are the objective points to deny that the hostages inside the planes say through their phones that it had been hijacked by terrorists?
* What are the objective points to deny the FBI investigation (An answer other than "The FBI always hide something to us, honest citizens who want transparency and democracy lolololol" is needed)?
 
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