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Not another stupid Truther thread! :mad:

What is the point of making so many threads, if you don't have any kind of sources or evidence to back everything up? This thread is just a waste of time & space!
 
TheAntiV said:
So the conspirators are smart enough to pull off the most elaborate conspiracy known to man but completly forgot about the internet?

That's not very plausible or totalitarian.
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No, they failed to foresee the rise of internet forums and blogs and it's consequences. I joined an internet forum 6 months after 9/11 and I was one of the first. Until then the internet mainly consisted of business-to-consumer traffic. Today the information monopoly complete escaped from the MSM. And information monopoly is a prerequisite of any NWO tiranny.

Talking about 'the most elaborate conspiracy known to man' (your words)... still think it is plausible that 19 Arabian youngsters pulled off 'the most elaborate conspiracy known to man'?
 
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...still think it is plausible that 19 Arabian youngsters pulled off 'the most elaborate conspiracy known to man'?

strawman.
 
What was elaborate about it?

All you need is a little bit of pilot training, the flight times, 19 people willing to die for a cause, sharp objects that at the time could be brought on a flight, and materials that look enough like a bomb to cow people into cooperating. Whereas YOUR little conspiracy would require hundreds of thousands of people with at least partial knowledge of the plot, all of whom would be willing to either plant evidence or cover up the evidence that contradicts the "official story", and remain utterly silent about it for nearly ten years without a single one coming forward for the sure promise of a hell of a lot of money and fame and blowing the conspiracy wide open.

The odds for my "conspiracy" are a lot better than the odds for yours.
 
9/11-investigator said:
You call the confiscation of Pentagon videos a non-existing events? :boggled:
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What difference does it make? When they are released and it shows a freakin' plane slamming into the Pentagon, you'll just make up some other stupid conspiracy.

You can call strawman all you want, doesn't change the fact that you move goalposts like a pro and will do so for eternity.
 
Sabrina said:
What was elaborate about it?

All you need is a little bit of pilot training, the flight times,
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Professional pilots have stated that it is impossible for Hanjour to have carried out the maneuver that he is said to have carried out. Several Arabs were too incompetent to even fly a Cessna.

19 people willing to die for a cause,
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Haha, 'all you need'... trust me, it is far easier to find 19 people who do not need to die than 19 people who do need to die and remain determined about it for several months.

sharp objects that at the time could be brought on a flight, and materials that look enough like a bomb to cow people into cooperating.
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Sure. 4/5 short frail Arabs with these stupid hardless box cutters can keep an plane of 100 or so 'Aryans' under control. Don't make me laugh.

Whereas YOUR little conspiracy would require hundreds of thousands of people with at least partial knowledge of the plot, all of whom would be willing to either plant evidence or cover up the evidence that contradicts the "official story", and remain utterly silent about it for nearly ten years without a single one coming forward for the sure promise of a hell of a lot of money and fame and blowing the conspiracy wide open.
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No I don't.
 
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Sabretooth said:
What difference does it make? When they are released and it shows a freakin' plane slamming into the Pentagon, you'll just make up some other stupid conspiracy.

You can call strawman all you want, doesn't change the fact that you move goalposts like a pro and will do so for eternity.
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OK, Sabretooth also admits she has no explanation for the sudden haste in confiscating these videos and keep them behind lock and bar.
 
9/11-investigator said:
Professional pilots have stated that it is impossible for Hanjour to have carried out the maneuver that he is said to have carried out. Several Arabs were too incompetent to even fly a Cessna.
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Name one that isn't an idiot from P4T.

And which maneuver are you refering to? NOC, SOC, Flyover, etc. The troofers will have Hanjour doing loops and a Split-S the next time I hear the story.

Haha, 'all you need'... trust me, it is far easier to find 19 people who do not need to die than 19 people who do need to die and remain determined about it for several months.
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Opinions formed on misconceptions does not equal fact.

Sure. 4/5 short frail Arabs with these stupid hardless box cutters can keep an plane of 100 or so 'Aryans' under control. Don't make me laugh.
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This statement is correct post-9/11. Pre-9/11, you're dead wrong.
 
There are over two million people in the US alone who are willing to die for a cause right now. They're collectively referred to as the United States Armed Forces. Just saying.
 
Sabretooth said:
What difference does it make? When they are released and it shows a freakin' plane slamming into the Pentagon, you'll just make up some other stupid conspiracy.

You can call strawman all you want, doesn't change the fact that you move goalposts like a pro and will do so for eternity.
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No way, a pro would be a lot less obvious about moving the goalposts......
 
9/11-investigator said:
OK, Sabretooth also admits she has no explanation for the sudden haste in confiscating these videos and keep them behind lock and bar.
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He. Not she. I know the bunny throws you off.

Explain why I need an explanation? I personally know an eyewitness to AA77 flying into the Pentagon. I've seen an extensive amount of photos that document immediate aftermath in several firefighter training classes. I already know that a plane flew into the Pentagon.

I'm also convinced, without a doubt, that no amount of evidence will ever be good enough for you to give up your preconceived conclusions regarding 9/11 and every other stupid conspiracy you try to push around here.
 
9/11-investigator said:
Haha, 'all you need'... trust me, it is far easier to find 19 people who do not need to die than 19 people who do need to die and remain determined about it for several months.
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Have you read any of Azzam's writings? Are you familiar with the jihadists history in not only Afghanistan, but Bosnia and Chechnya? If so, then you are surely aware that there are thousands ready (wanting) to die in the cause of jihad. Where we consider it our duty to let the other guy die for his 'country' or 'cause', these guys see it as their duty not only to do so, but to take you and as many of your friends with them. They made excellent proxy fighters for us until they decided we were next.
 
sabrina said:
and this is the false dichotomy that most truthers cannot or will not account for. How can the minds behind this elaborate conspiracy be so diabolically clever and yet so monumentally stupid at the same time?

One might have an easier time trying to explain theoretical physics to a mentally challenged person cinder block.
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ftfy :D
 
9/11-investigator said:
No, they failed to foresee the rise of internet forums and blogs and it's consequences. I joined an internet forum 6 months after 9/11 and I was one of the first. Until then the internet mainly consisted of business-to-consumer traffic. Today the information monopoly complete escaped from the MSM. And information monopoly is a prerequisite of any NWO tiranny.

Talking about 'the most elaborate conspiracy known to man' (your words)... still think it is plausible that 19 Arabian youngsters pulled off 'the most elaborate conspiracy known to man'?
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So they absolutely lack foresight? I'm pretty sure forums existed by 9/11. Also, there is no NWO. It is nothing more than a laughable concept that has its roots in anti-enlightenment propaganda and outdated isolationism.

Also, what the hijackers did wasn't a conspiracy. Nor did they pull it off 100% hence United 93.
 
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