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KDLarsen said:
AFAIK PfffffffT and the Clowns' Investigation Team were heavily involved in the production of the episode.
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Yes, I heard mutterings/rantings on another forum that Cap'n Bobby was going to be on the episode. I couldn't be bothered checking the updates of that thread, but I'm sure there'll be youtube wonders of it. As for the "publicity" for PfffffffT... looks like they must admit they believe in a Conspiracy Theory. :D
 
Yeah, Rob has been busy with his socks over on ATS (I think I counted 3), spamming a video where someone from PfffffT is interviewing Ventura.
 
KDLarsen said:
Sadly, if anyone needed any sort of confirmation that Jesse Ventura has taken a bodyslam too many in his lifetime, they needed only to tune in to watch his show on Pentagon last night.

Either mr. Ventura is gullible to the point of insanity, or he don't mind flat out lying to his audience.

ETA: He brought up the $2.3 trillion nonsense, the 84 videos, airphones, and claimed that neither of the black boxes were found. AFAIK PfffffffT and the Clowns' Investigation Team were heavily involved in the production of the episode.
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Yeah, I watched bits and pieces of that episode. He claimed that if there were 100 cameras in and around the Pentagon, many of them should have picked up the impact. Well, the problem is about 6.5 MILLION square!! That means that each camera covers an average of 650,000 square feet. Something tells me that is NOT the case. That many parts are not covered by cameras.

Yeah, the guy's an idiot. But, when you're a washed up wrestler who failed in politics, you gotta whore yourself out for money somehow.
 
I know it's a strange place to say it, but not everyone visits the community section so I'm getting it out here. Merry Christmas to all of you guys; "truther," "skeptic," "debunker," <insert favorite/preferred reference here>, alike. Hope you all have an enjoyable one. Saying it a bit early since I won't be online tomorrow, I'll be spending time with family
 
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Happy holidays and a good and healthy 2011, truthers and debunkers alike :)
 
Happy holidays everyone!

Here's hoping for a "new investigation" in 2011!

I can't wait to see what happens when Jones, Gage and all the others are subpoenaed.


:D
 
A reminder to bill, if you are back to posting any time soon I await the video of Robertson you said you would post as soon as Gourley puts it up.
It would be a pity if you lived down to expectations and did not post it, or Gourley never puts it up to back up his contentions about what Robertson actually says in the video.

A pity, but not unexpected.
 
jaydeehess said:
A reminder to bill, if you are back to posting any time soon I await the video of Robertson you said you would post as soon as Gourley puts it up.
It would be a pity if you lived down to expectations and did not post it, or Gourley never puts it up to back up his contentions about what Robertson actually says in the video.

A pity, but not unexpected.
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Bill, are you not posting the link even though you said you would, or is this Gourley's fault for not yet putting this interview on his site?

If Gourley has posted it and you are not letting us know then why not? You asked me if I doubted you would when it was available. One would assume that you meant that you would indeed be doing so.

If Gourley is at fault for taking the last two months off then does this affect your estimation of him?
 
Quiproquo said:
Why do proponents of the official conspiracy narrative constantly quote Ockam's razor to support their theories?
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Who says Occam's razor is the only mechanism for determining the "truth" movement's claims are unsupported?
 
Quiproquo said:
Back to the framework.

Why do proponents of the official conspiracy narrative constantly quote Ockam's razor to support their theories?
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I find the idiots in 911 truth mention Occam's razor the most, or mention something close to Occam's razor, as they post off topic nonsense.


It is easy to see you have no clue when it comes to Occam's razor, or what happen on 911. 9 years of failure is showing.
There is no official theory, there is what happen. For WTC7 fire did it. You can quote all the BS nonsense you want, you still have no clue what happen on 911 due to ignorance and preference for paranoid nut case conspiracy theories. Are you another want to be engineer with a pathological need to attack NIST for no reason?

Is your problem understanding fire, or the extremely complicated plot of 19 terrorist? Occam's razor?

1. Take aircraft
2. Crash into large buildings

So complex a plot it will never pass Occam's razor. Better sharpen your blade, your lack of logic is showing.

Other than that how do you like the OP attacking NIST with no purpose, no goal? Bet you have no clue what the topic is.
 
Quiproquo said:
Back to the framework.

Why do proponents of the official conspiracy narrative constantly quote Ockam's razor to support their theories?
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Because it applies.

Why do 9/11 conspiracy theorists constantly lie to support their "theories"?
 
Myriad said:
I apologize for not realizing that those who advocate ridiculous and defamatory accusations of U.S. government complicity in the events of 9/11...
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No need to apologize. You need to have a thick skin if you want to discuss those topics. "WTC demolition" is a topic, isn't it? It isn't per se a
"...ridiculous and defamatory accusations of U.S. government complicity..."

I doubt that Mineta or Richard Clark ............ Sibel Edmonds were complicit in any way. I doubt that the Congress has voted to silence Atta's girlfriend Amanda Keller. I doubt that the Alomari passport presented by Mrs. Ginsburg was faked by herself. I doubt that the U.S. government had some meeting in the White House to tell the highjackers about wargames and radar holes.
I doubt that the U.S. government believe that Mineta is a liar or at least suffers amnesia. I doubt that the U.S. government made an exeption in the visa regulations for some "tourest" on his way to "Wasantwn". I doubt that the U.S. government visited Johnell Bryant in Florida as "Atta" to buy a crop-duster while Atta still was observed by the CIA in Hamburg. I doubt that the U.S. government printed a second time stamp into the Portland surveillance video. I doubt that the U.S. government found 3 different "Jarrah last will" videos in the desert of Tarnak Farm. I doubt that the U.S. government recorded an UBL meeting at Tarnak Farm with two different cameras and used one of it to record "Atta's laughing last will" without sound. I doubt that the U.S. government gave the footage of the 2nd camera to a civil filmmaker. I doubt that the U.S. government stopped Able Danger or even blocked the John McNeill investigation in Saudi Arabia. I doubt that the U.S. government had any interest to offer the Taliban 'either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs'. I doubt that the entire U.S. government had breakfast with Atta paymaster General Mahmud Ahmed on 9/11 in the White House. I doubt that the U.S. government told the 9/11 Commission not to mention that allegation and instead to state that the question of who financed the terrorist attacks was "of little practical significance". I doubt that the U.S. air defence cannot fail. I doubt that the U.S. government sold the WTC7 steel to China. So no, I have no ridiculous and defamatory accusations of U.S. government complicity.

If you do the math and calculate the probability of all the requirements of that event to occur then you will get something like infinite-1.
Theoretically that day never happened. What are we talking about?

It happened. Who did it?
 
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achimspok said:
No need to apologize. You need to have a thick skin if you want to discuss those topics. "WTC demolition" is a topic, isn't it? It isn't per se a
"...ridiculous and defamatory accusations of U.S. government complicity..."

I doubt that Mineta or Richard Clark ............ Sibel Edmonds were complicit in any way.
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there is no evidence to suggest that they were. If you have some please provide it. I'd love to read it.

[quote[I doubt that the Congress has voted to silence Atta's girlfriend Amanda Keller.[/quote]
I'm unfamiliar with this one. I didn't know that congress could silence individuals... wowsers. There goes the first amendment. Have you notified the New York Times? I'm sure they would LOVE to know about it.

I doubt that the Alomari passport presented by Mrs. Ginsburg was faked by herself.
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Again, no evidence to support this claim. If you have some provide it.

I doubt that the U.S. government had some meeting in the White House to tell the highjackers about wargames and radar holes.
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No evidence to support this claim. If you have some please provide it.

I doubt that the U.S. government believe that Mineta is a liar or at least suffers amnesia. I doubt that the U.S. government made an exeption in the visa regulations for some "tourest" on his way to "Wasantwn".
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No evdence to support this claim. If you have some please provide it.

I doubt that the U.S. government visited Johnell Bryant in Florida as "Atta" to buy a crop-duster while Atta still was observed by the CIA in Hamburg.
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no evidence to support this claim. If you have some please provide it.

I doubt that the U.S. government printed a second time stamp into the Portland surveillance video.
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maybe they did, maybe they didn't. I have no reason to question the evidence provided. if you have some reason, please provide it.

I doubt that the U.S. government found 3 different "Jarrah last will" videos in the desert of Tarnak Farm. I doubt that the U.S. government recorded an UBL meeting at Tarnak Farm with two different cameras and used one of it to record "Atta's laughing last will" without sound. I doubt that the U.S. government gave the footage of the 2nd camera to a civil filmmaker. I doubt that the U.S. government stopped Able Danger or even blocked the John McNeill investigation in Saudi Arabia. I doubt that the U.S. government had any interest to offer the Taliban 'either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs'. I doubt that the entire U.S. government had breakfast with Atta paymaster General Mahmud Ahmed on 9/11 in the White House. I doubt that the U.S. government told the 9/11 Commission not to mention that allegation and instead to state that the question of who financed the terrorist attacks was "of little practical significance". I doubt that the U.S. air defence cannot fail. I doubt that the U.S. government sold the WTC7 steel to China. So no, I have no ridiculous and defamatory accusations of U.S. government complicity.
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Oh I get it... you are trying to be funny.

Lets see... appeal to probability in 5.....4.....3.... 2.....
If you do the math and calculate the probability of all the requirements of that event to occur then you will get something like infinite-1.
Theoretically that day never happened. What are we talking about?

It happened. Who did it?
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absolutely amazing. do i get the randi million? I'll take my payment in small unmarked bills...

Something to try to understand. In real life complex and often unexplainable RANDOM events happen.

How about the hijackers manifesto surviving flight psa 1771? What are the ODDS? a billion to one? But it did survive.

what are the odds of being struck by lightening 7X? astronomical. But it has happened. that is the problem with the appeal to probablilty arguments. Sometimes they happen.
 
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