Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

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In the UK election I noticed we did have a truther candidate, Dr Stephen Hopwood. This wasn't his sole issue but on his site he talks about "false flag terrorism", has a picture of the WTC collapsing with the caption "the government are the real terrorists", embeds a copy of 9/11 mysteries, and so on.

He was standing in the relatively independent-friendly Totnes - so what happened? Dr Hopwood came (drum roll) last out of 8, mustering 267 votes or 0.6% of the total. Oh well - maybe next time, huh?
 
Where has Willie Rodriguez disappeared? Just a thought.
 
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MikeW said:
In the UK election I noticed we did have a truther candidate, Dr Stephen Hopwood. This wasn't his sole issue but on his site he talks about "false flag terrorism", has a picture of the WTC collapsing with the caption "the government are the real terrorists", embeds a copy of 9/11 mysteries, and so on.

He was standing in the relatively independent-friendly Totnes - so what happened? Dr Hopwood came (drum roll) last out of 8, mustering 267 votes or 0.6% of the total. Oh well - maybe next time, huh?
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People are waking up![/2006]
 
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Where has Willie Rodriguez disappeared? Just a thought.
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Taking care of his young son and family, still travelling the world a good part of the year. He's in good spirits and good health.
 
Hey where can I find documents and stuff from the FBI PENTTBOM investigation?

Sorry if this is a stupid question, I only spent two minutes googling it but I know that this forum would probably link me to a better site to look at the 911 investigation held by the FBI.
 
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Hey where can I find documents and stuff from the FBI PENTTBOM investigation?
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I have some, see here.

I've uploaded some files from the 9/11 Commission, too: http://www.911myths.com/index.php/9-11_Commission_Records

There are documents relating to one or more hijackers. See generally at http://www.911myths.com/index.php/The_Hijackers , or choose the hijacker you need.

History Commons have many more documents than me, though, perhaps because they could visit NARA in person and didn't have to pay per page to have someone else do the copying.

The big History Commons advantage, though, is their documents are OCRed so you can search by text. You can't rely on this as they haven't uploaded everything (and OCR isn't 100% accurate) but if you're looking for something specific it's still worth a try. Visit their archive at http://www.scribd.com/911DocumentArchive
 
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Thanks y'all! And here it is, the SEC memo to the 9/11 Commission on their investigations into the pre-9/11 put options trades.

At a quick glance I don't see anything too exciting, it's mostly just a more detailed explanation of why they didn't find anything suspicious. But source documents are always good to get, and if you're interested in the put options arguments then it's worth at least scanning this to see that the SEC have said.

ETA: d'oh! How did I miss that wrong date on the cover page?! Oh well, I'll replace it now.
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More of the same. Basically what they investigated is if the people who had foreknowledge about the attacks could have benefited financially. And they have already come to the preconception that the ONLY people who could have had foreknowledge were the terrorists. This is basically saying that they found no connection that Al-Qaeda benefited financially from the attacks and that anyone else who did couldn't have possibly have had foreknowledge, because according to them the only ones who could have had foreknowledge were the terrorists. Gravy already tried this crap on his googlepages.

Fail

Big Giant Debunker FAIL. Just more of the same.
 
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More of the same. Basically what they investigated is if the people who had foreknowledge about the attacks could have benefited financially. And they have already come to the preconception that the ONLY people who could have had foreknowledge were the terrorists. This is basically saying that they found no connection that Al-Qaeda benefited financially from the attacks and that anyone else who did couldn't have possibly have had foreknowledge, because according to them the only ones who could have had foreknowledge were the terrorists. Gravy already tried this crap on his googlepages.

Fail

Big Giant Debunker FAIL. Just more of the same.
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So the SEC is part of your imaginary plot now?
 
Profanz said:
More of the same. Basically what they investigated is if the people who had foreknowledge about the attacks could have benefited financially. And they have already come to the preconception that the ONLY people who could have had foreknowledge were the terrorists. This is basically saying that they found no connection that Al-Qaeda benefited financially from the attacks and that anyone else who did couldn't have possibly have had foreknowledge, because according to them the only ones who could have had foreknowledge were the terrorists. Gravy already tried this crap on his googlepages.

Fail

Big Giant Debunker FAIL. Just more of the same.
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Your attempt at logic has a hole in it.
 
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This is basically saying that they found no connection that Al-Qaeda benefited financially from the attacks and that anyone else who did couldn't have possibly have had foreknowledge, because according to them the only ones who could have had foreknowledge were the terrorists.
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What they actually say is that there were legitimate reasons for the trades, relating to the state of the markets at the time.

Of course if you rely on truther sites, books or movies, you won't know about those conditions, because I've yet to see a single one that spells them out, and most ignore them entirely, in that typically dishonest truther fashion.
 
Fictional story tellers such as Willie prefer to keep a low profile when they find that the ratings for their sensationalist fiction performances drop faster than freefall speed.
It's understandable you might have forgotten, after all he's not active within the conspiracy media because of this.
 
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Well we are only 4 months from the 9th ANNIVERSARY of the event. You would figure there would be huge plans for huge truther rallies, and what not...

I haven't seen or heard squat about it. Anyone?

TAM:)
 
MikeW said:
I have some, see here.

I've uploaded some files from the 9/11 Commission, too: http://www.911myths.com/index.php/9-11_Commission_Records

There are documents relating to one or more hijackers. See generally at http://www.911myths.com/index.php/The_Hijackers , or choose the hijacker you need.

History Commons have many more documents than me, though, perhaps because they could visit NARA in person and didn't have to pay per page to have someone else do the copying.

The big History Commons advantage, though, is their documents are OCRed so you can search by text. You can't rely on this as they haven't uploaded everything (and OCR isn't 100% accurate) but if you're looking for something specific it's still worth a try. Visit their archive at http://www.scribd.com/911DocumentArchive
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Hey thanks Mike!

A lot of the arguments I've had with Truthers have taught me to not even bring up the 911CR. Truthers just go on and on about conflicts of interest and WTC7 not being in the report that I really don't even rely on it for my arguments. The only thing I use is Willie's testimony...but that doesn't come up too often.

Again, thanks!
 
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