Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

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bill smith said:
The main point that I would like to establish is that the footage of the plane going through the building as seen in the clip I have hyperlinked is the actual footage broadcast by FOX live on the day of 9/11. Will you confirm this for the readers Dave ?
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There is no footage showing the plane going through the building, because it didn't.

Dave
 
Dave Rogers said:
There is no footage showing the plane going through the building, because it didn't.

Dave
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Dave the readers are going to think you are being evasive if you will not answer the question directly. I will rephrase it so that it is difficult for you to muddy the waters and avoid giving said straightforward answer.

In the clip I showed a plane is seen to hit the building and it looks not unlike a pencil being stuck through the building with the point emerging on the other side. Now that might be debris exiting as you say, but all I want you to do is to confirm for the readers is that the actual footage itself is the authentic footage broadcast by FOX on the day of 9/11.

Readers will have to use their own judgement about whether Dave tries to fudge this answer and furthermore to ask yourelves why he is being so evavive about such a simple and yet vitally important question.
 
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Bill, I believe it to be authentic. Here is the problem with the nose coming out of the other side.

#1-We all know that the planes nose is not that strong, and wouldn't have survived.
#2- If the nose of the plane came out of the other side, where did it go after that?? If it survived going through all that steel and concrete, why didn't it survive the fireball on the other side?? Why didn't a huge nose piece either faall to the street or continue on its path??
 
bill smith said:
Dave the readers are going to think you are being evasive if you will not answer the question directly. I will rephrase it so that it is difficult for you to muddy the wters and avoid giving said straightforward answer.

In the clip I showed a plane is sen to hit the building and it looks not unlike a pencil being stuck through the building with the point emerging on the other side. Now that might be debris exiting as you say, but all I want you to do is to confirm for the readers is that the actual footage itself is the authentic footage broadcast by FOX on the day of 9/11.

Readers will have to use their own judgement about whether Dave tries to fudge this answer and furthermore to ask yourelves why he is being so evavive about such a simple and yet vitally important question.
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And why is it vitally important to you Billie gurl? Because what it "looks like" to you? Of course its the actual footage. From about seven miles away. We have been down this road before Billie. Its been debunked. Its not a video fakery error. You bring it up again like its either something new or you have a ten minute long term memory. Do you have a long term memory deficit Billie?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2604892#post2604892


 
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bill smith said:
Dave the readers are going to think you are being evasive if you will not answer the question directly. I will rephrase it so that it is difficult for you to muddy the waters and avoid giving said straightforward answer.
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The readers are going to be perfectly aware of what game you're playing. Present some convoluted false dilemma, demand a yes/no answer, then focus on some overlooked aspect of the question to give the impression that the answer supports your position. I see no reason to join in.

bill smith said:
In the clip I showed a plane is seen to hit the building and it looks not unlike a pencil being stuck through the building with the point emerging on the other side. Now that might be debris exiting as you say, but all I want you to do is to confirm for the readers is that the actual footage itself is the authentic footage broadcast by FOX on the day of 9/11.
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On the day of 9/11 I was not watching FOX news, as I was on the wrong continent. Why, exactly, you should require confirmation from an English physicist as to the content of an American news broadcast, is probably as much a mystery to the readers as it is to me.

Dave
 
Dave Rogers said:
The readers are going to be perfectly aware of what game you're playing. Present some convoluted false dilemma, demand a yes/no answer, then focus on some overlooked aspect of the question to give the impression that the answer supports your position. I see no reason to join in.



On the day of 9/11 I was not watching FOX news, as I was on the wrong continent. Why, exactly, you should require confirmation from an English physicist as to the content of an American news broadcast, is probably as much a mystery to the readers as it is to me.

Dave
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So you are english ? I had you pegged for an American.

I can tell you here and now with no fear of contradiction that the footage of the plane apparently going through the building is the authentic footage as broadcast on 9/11. I saw it myself on the day. I only remember it so well because it looked strange to me even then.
 
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bill smith said:
So you are english ? I had you pegged for an American.

I can tell you here and now with no fear of contradiction that the footage of the plane apparently going through the building is the autentic footage as broadcast on 9/11. I saw it myself on the day. I only remember it so well because it looked strange to me even then.
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What kind of parents would let their seven year old kid watch that footage?
 
Bump for Bill Smith because these videos completely destroy his idiocy and delusions.

TruthersLie said:
since I only see Bill S's idiocy when others quote him.

nose in engine out


Plane impacts real or fake (from a TRUTHER)


The great nose in nose out HOAX (FROM A TRUTHER)


September Clues BUSTEd (by a truther)
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bill smith said:
So you are english ? I had you pegged for an American.

I can tell you here and now with no fear of contradiction that the footage of the plane apparently going through the building is the authentic footage as broadcast on 9/11. I saw it myself on the day. I only remember it so well because it looked strange to me even then.
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I don't know what kind of vision problems you have Billie but it is not apparent to any one with functioning eyesight or brain cells here that "the plane apparently is going through the building". Are you a drama queen Billie?
 
dtugg said:
What kind of parents would let their seven year old kid watch that footage?
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I see no reason to hide this sort of thing from kids. As long as you can explain what they're looking at in a way they can understand. My son (3 at the time) was allowed to watch it and my wife (at the time) and I explained what was going on. To this day he (most likely) has a better understanding of this and other world events then a lot of adults I know.

Interestingly enough (like me) he does not like watching these videos dissected by people with no legitimate expertise. Every frame by frame video of UA 175 hitting the south tower is a frame by frame account of a good friends death.:(
 
Looking for a link

I know that a link to the archive of original television news coverage from 9/11/01 has been posted here in the CT sub-forum several times in the past, but I cannot readily locate it at the moment, so I thought I would just ask here in the general discussion thread if someone would be so kind as to provide the link (again) if you happen to have it handy.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Lash
 
DGM said:
I see no reason to hide this sort of thing from kids. As long as you can explain what they're looking at in a way they can understand. My son (3 at the time) was allowed to watch it and my wife (at the time) and I explained what was going on. To this day he (most likely) has a better understanding of this and other world events then a lot of adults I know.

Interestingly enough (like me) he does not like watching these videos dissected by people with no legitimate expertise. Every frame by frame video of UA 175 hitting the south tower is a frame by frame account of a good friends death.:(
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Fair enough. I was mostly just taking a swipe at bs by saying he was a litte kid when it happened.
 
LashL said:
I know that a link to the archive of original television news coverage from 9/11/01 has been posted here in the CT sub-forum several times in the past, but I cannot readily locate it at the moment, so I thought I would just ask here in the general discussion thread if someone would be so kind as to provide the link (again) if you happen to have it handy.
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I believe this is what you're looking for: http://www.archive.org/details/sept_11_tv_archive
 
bill smith said:
Here's a hyperlink so that you can have a look at the plane apparently going through the building.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5075880&postcount=965
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Bill, I am confused. You claim that it COULDN'T have gone through the building in one thread, then in another thread, you claim it CAN.

Can you please explain what you are talking about?? THanks.

Oh, and if you please don't mind, would you bring your attention to my post that I have already posted.

Bill, I believe it to be authentic. Here is the problem with the nose coming out of the other side.

#1-We all know that the planes nose is not that strong, and wouldn't have survived.
#2- If the nose of the plane came out of the other side, where did it go after that?? If it survived going through all that steel and concrete, why didn't it survive the fireball on the other side?? Why didn't a huge nose piece either faall to the street or continue on its path??
 
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