Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread
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TJM
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Oh, sorry I missed that. Clearly I wasn't groupthinking. Don't tell the owl, will ya pal?
I didn't exaggerate anything.
Do you have a point?
You have done no such thing. All you've done is attempt to divert from the fact that you have nothing.
You have never proven anybody wrong. You are twoofer after all. Your pathetic excuse fools nobody.
I'll believe facts and evidence. You have nothing but lies.
Seeing as how you are a twoofer, and as such you have very poor judgment and are a liar, I am not taking your word for it.
This statement makes no sense. I'll assume that you meant that moderators can't have and state an opinion and and stay neutral in moderation. That is obvious nonsense. Their purpose is to enforce rules. I have seen zero evidence that they enforce rules in a biased manner against twoofer idiots. And the fact that I have served several suspensions here most due to personally insulting twoofers disproves that.
I am saying that if you post your pathetic lies here, there are a bunch of different people who know what they are talking about who will spot them. That's why you are afraid to do it it here. In the real world... I mean some comment section of a random blog post, there probably aren't as many enabling you to do it more easily.
I am not going to see any more of the world (by that I assume you mean pathetic twoofer lies) than I have seen here. It's all been discussed to death here many times over.
By "outside that box", you must mean outside facts, evidence, and logic. Well, I suppose one must in order to believe the lies that twoofers push.
Wowzer, the truthers lack evidence there too. Exactly what you bring here; zero evidence. You posted a link where opinions based on hearsay and lies are in abundance. Did you miss this at the top of the page? Skepticism, critical thinking. I found no signs of skepticism and critical thinking in the truther parade of stupid ideas at your favorite opinion debate place.
An example of the lack of knowledge and shallow research.
The stupid burns.
No four trained pilots with FAA ratings flew 4 jets after killing 8 pilots. Trained for years! They thought flying was hard so they trained for YEARS. The idiots are bad pilots, but better than the pilots who spew idiot ideas in Balsamo's fail physics club for pilots who have no clue on 911, p4t; where dirt dumb ideas like this are standard fare.
Oops, the 757/767 are easier to fly than a single engine prop. I said fly. The 757/767 are easier to fly than the 707 and 737. I said fly. How do I know. How can I say this!? First of all I asked some 757/767 pilots. Next I was able to understand what the 757/767 Captains said because I fly too. I flew with these Captains in 757/767s and I flew KC-135s for over 4,000 hours. I have trained pilots in large 4 engine jets. The lack of knowledge in truther-land on flying fills books. The planes were easy to fly because they are very sophisticated flight control systems and airframe which have great handling characteristics which make the planes easy to fly. Ask a 757/767 pilots who flew older jets. Keep the questions to clear day no bad weather; just flying.
Another stupid statement. The flying of the terrorists was BAD! Hani's bank angle in the turn he had to make to loose altitude because he did not plan ahead to be low enough at the Pentagon as he approached varied form 10 to 40 degrees. He would not pass a check ride. Hani hit the Pentagon. The Pentagon is 900 feet wide! How could he miss? When he tried to rent a plane he was trying to land of a 40 foot wide runway; not 911 foot wide office building. Precision!? NUTS
Truth! The 40 wide runway on the right to scale with the Pentagon. No doubt why Hani could hit a big target. Why do truthers repeat hearsay on flying when they could look it up.
Here comes the stupid.
He did descend from 7000 feet. But at 9:29:54 our idiot terrorist was at 8000 feet and going 292 KIAS (knots indicated airspeed). We don't fly mph in jets we fling indicated airspeed and 300 KIAS is a perfect speed for a 757; the Boeing jet loves 300 knots. BTW, the speed limit below 10,000 feet is 250 KIAS and this is why controllers thought this jet was military, some military jets have waivers to exceed 250 KIAS below 10,000 feet like Hani was doing out of stupidity and he does not care about RULES. Next Hani drops to a low of 6486 feet, at 9:31:42 and the he goes back up to 8485 at 9:33:46 going 277 KIAS now and heading 100 degree he is not starting the massive HIGH G turn! He pulls a massive 1.099g average, with a peak for 1/8 second of 1.7g, and a min g of .714g. Wowzer. Where did this idiot find the 4 to 6 G big lie? From liars on 911. Like a turn in an airliner but sloppy, Hani makes a large turn slowly less than a standard rate turn (look it up) so he was not precise or professional, he made a big turn and lost altitude because he pulled the engines back.
Why did Hani descend to 6486 and climb back up to 8485 at a normal rate of 1000 feet per minute? Why? Ask a pilot to analyze it. Me. Hani had the throttles pulled back to 33 percent as he came down from above 20,000 feet and then he put them back up to 50 to 80 percent at around 7000 feet, and when he first started down he came back up because the engines were up. He finally got the throttles back to 30 percent and started down.
He went from 8485 at 9:33:46 to 2011 feet at 9:37:18. About 2000 feet per minute. Not very hard to do, just take off some throttle and you go down. Wowzer, what a dive. The tight turn was at an average speed of 285 which is very close to the best speed for doing things in a 757, not some air-show speed but high enough for controllers to suspect it was a military plane because the standard speed by LAW is below 250 KIAS not 285. The average turn radius was 2.76 miles a turn greater than 5 miles wide! Tight! NOT
But his flying instructor said he could hit the Pentagon. Oops. All 4 terrorist pilots had FAA licenses. So 911 truthers have failed in this lie. A kid off the street could fly a 757 into building with no training. What training do you need to crash? None.
You prefer a forum based on no facts, no evidence with super-shallow-nano-research. You should stay where your ideas are standard fare for non-skeptical, non-critical thinkers who share your failed ideas on 911.
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jhunter1163
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I read a post while browsing this forum on my lunch break at work. Someone had posted a video of some in the truth movement using thermite to try to cut a something steel in half. Said something about paying 20.000 for (not sure if thats 20,000 or 20) I don't have flash at work, so I was unable to watch the video. Now I can't seem to find it, and the search function didn't produce any results. Anyone remember what thread that was in?
I don't know where that video is, but it sounds like the famous "Truthburn" fiasco at Burning Man in 2007, where a bunch of truthers set off some thermite to try to bring down a steel sign that said "Truth". As many here at JREF predicted, it failed to bring the sign down. Try searching "Truthburn".
ETA: Video here: http://revver.com/video/398317/truthburn-burning-man/
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If you're a truther promoting the Jones/Harrit pay-to-publish non-peer-reviewed Bentham paper as total evidence of WTC controlled demolition, and a skeptic calls the peer review of the paper into question, how do you deal with that criticism?
It's easy... you play "I know you are, but what am I" and claim the NIST reports weren't peer-reviewed either. (NSFW language on the linked thread.)
It's easy... you play "I know you are, but what am I" and claim the NIST reports weren't peer-reviewed either. (NSFW language on the linked thread.)
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Who can smell the desperation ? lol. If they are ever going to try and set up the Truth Movement it will be sometime soon. Don't be surprised if we see a flurry of this kind of reporting followed by a 'crazed Truther' episode or episodes of some kind. It must just kill them that we are and have always been so passive They have not had a chance to launch any kind of draconian anti-Truther measures. Glenn Beck is so completely off the wall here that it must be manifestly obvious even to the most hardened Shill just how much trouble they are in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...www.911blogger.com/&hl=en&v=lUTATYaIZYI&gl=US
http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...www.911blogger.com/&hl=en&v=lUTATYaIZYI&gl=US
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...www.911blogger.com/&hl=en&v=lUTATYaIZYI&gl=US
A few failed neoNAZIs making dirt dumb comments on the video. The video exposes another nut case truther on 911 who went nuts and killed like the terrorists they apologize for.
Why do neoNAZI bigots make up moronic ideas on 911 and then go nuts and try to kill people?
A few failed neoNAZIs making dirt dumb comments on the video. The video exposes another nut case truther on 911 who went nuts and killed like the terrorists they apologize for.
Why do neoNAZI bigots make up moronic ideas on 911 and then go nuts and try to kill people?
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I can't speak for other Truthers but personally I had never heard of this Von Brun guy until I saw the Glenn Beck diatribe. So I find it hard to believe that he's a Truth Movement icon. I think rather that the wheels for a set up are in motion Beachnut.
The joke is that it is too late. Jones has published, CIT have blown the Pentagon wide open and Chandler has NIST in all kinds of trouble. The proof of all these is on the hard disks of half a billion computers around the world. Setting the Truth Movement up now can only be counter-productive, exposing the sheer desperation of the powers that be. Perhaps they do not see that though.
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neoNAZIs are dumb enough to fall for 911Truth lies. Is being dirt dumb a requirement to be a neoNAZI?
Your dirt dumb ideas on 911 would appeal to this dolt. Your failed movement is filled with idiots like this tip of the iceberg nut case.
You never heard of evidence that proves all your moronic ideas on 911 are wrong so why would your shallow research expose this nut case? Your lack of knowledge on 911 and that you have this neoNAZI as one of your peers is not a surprise to me.
He was not a truth movement icon or leader, but he did believe in your movements delusions and lies. He signed one of the truther petitions, which is where the connection is made.
I am sure if one dug deeper into his internet history, you would find much more.
But an icon? I don't think so.
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You lead a very rich fantasy life.
In 7 years the "Truth Movement" is at zero while the "Legalize Pot Movement" and the Tea-Bagging Anti-tax movement and the "Obama isn't a president' movement" are leaving you in their dust.
Macgyver1968
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Thanks jhunter, that was the one I was looking for....kinda..underwhelming..yeh?
The truthers could have learned something from their own little experiment....look how long, and how bright the thermite burns. I wonder why we don't see this in the collapse videos? he he
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I suppose they'll be on Glenn Beck next. lol
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You do realize that what happened yesterday was a tragedy and a massive set-back for the ability of the "Truth Movement" to reach people that have not yet consumed the kool-aid?
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Yeah, I would imagine having "9/11 truthers" and "white supremacists" mentioned right next to one another by a pretty popular talk show host might put a bit of a hitch in the truthers' giddy-up.
Trinket sales could plummet.
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Have you got a link ? I don't actually know what did happen yesterday other than Richard Gage.
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Apparently you don't watch the videos you post here. I'm referring to the murder that Beck talks about on the show. Here's your URL. You posted it.
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