Merged Cold Fusion Claims

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Aepervius



I have not seen this. Where did you find this information?

I take that back, Defkalion deftly did not say anything about the "safety" heater, and refered to the patent which also say nothing on it, while at the same time saying it is not an industrial secret.

The melting of nickel came as a speculation from a user , since rossi said localized melting would poison / stop the reaction, assumed that the safety heater would melt the nickel.

http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2604#p2604

My bad, I am fully guilty here, I mixed the statement. There was actually no statement from the above mentionned "official " party on the safety heater role as far as I can see with a cursory look before logging off.
 
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Aepervius

Thanks for checking. If that was the official position of DGT then I would lose a lot of confidence in their legitimacy.
 
(and yes contrary to what you may think some of us are aware of such self destruct mechanism. The one I msotly know of are on chip, but you CANNOT compare that).

Just to clarify a bit about the chip & "self destruct" stuff.

For one, high-security employ different anti-tempering techniques. A very common and widely used method is to put a mesh above the die, which carries some signals. So to get to the die you have to destroy the mesh, rendering the chip "unusable" in theory. Of course, with a proper microscope, steady hand and very, very thin wire you can bypass that feature.

The other "method" pretty much comes naturally. Anyone remember the gold old EPROM's that you erased with UV light, or for that matter old microcontrollers which were erased that way? Well, guess what: Regular flash-memory cells are sensitive to UV as well. So, if you have a programmable device and decap it down to the die, and then expose it to UV, it will erase.

Same applies to security "fuses" that you program to prohibit reading back the contents. However, those "fuses" are often handled a bit more special, in particular they are covered by metal to make erasing them by UV harder. Another method is to change the behaviuor of the fuse. Lets say "unprotected" means logical 1, and "protected" means logical 0. Usually an UV erased bit will flip to 1. Just change that logic, so that an UV erased bit will still "protect" it.

Here you can see a more detailed explanation, if you are interested (i recommend the whole site in fact, quite a lot of interesting stuff if you are into that sort of stuff)

OK, enough off-topic ;)

So, no, as far as i am aware of, there is no "self destruct" in chips. Just that the memory cells can be erased by light if exposed. But then, no problem with working under yellow, red, whatever light. Like with any regular dark-room for photo stuff ;)

Greetings,

Chris
 
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Here is an email Defkalion is putting out to insterested parties:
mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg48955.html
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My problem with this is how time is restricted for meetings. 3-5 hours and 10 days in July and August. What will they do the rest of the days?
I watched one DVD on froud and author empasized few times that fraudsters try to severely limit your time for decision making, impliying that opportunity will be lost. Does it look like it in case of e-Cat? My answer is : Yes.
 
mix1home

Edison sold light bulbs, Ford sold cars. They both made millions. Defkalion claims to have a stupendous product, more significant than any previous human invention. And it doesn't intend to sell a single one! E-cats will be "supplied". What will be sold is dealerships, i.e. flimflam.

For an example of that kind of scam, and the losses incurred by the credulous purchasers, have a look at this, about a victim of our old free energy buddy, Dennis Lee. Like Rossi, Lee is an alumnus of the penitentiary. Readers of this thread will recall his statement of principle - you stand to gain free energy for life; you stand to lose the cost of a measly meal. So gimme seven dollars. It's a no-brainer.
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Dennis_Lee/former_dealer1_experience/

If you want to read the crazed ravings of a Dennis Lee supporter, look at http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm Here's a taster:
The official record is clear. The 1975 indictment had to do with unintentionally bouncing some checks as his company was going out of business, when a customer put a stop payment on a big check to his company. After getting poor (and probably intentionally poor) legal advice, Dennis naïvely pled guilty to fraud for bouncing some checks, a decision that still haunts him.

Rossi's indictments were the result of similar wicked plotting. In his case the culprits were a combination of the Italian government and the Camorra.

What, by the way, has happened to Rossi's: all the money invested is mine - nobody else stands to lose a penny ... ? The dealership holders will have to invest plenty, before a single e-cat reaches the market.
 
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Andrea Rossi promissed to publish in June a paper by W. Guglinski in his blog Journal of Nuclear Physics but Rossi did not fulfill his promise...

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Font abuse.

Mispellings (e.g. 'mistery')

Way too long.

Unreadable, unimportant, just plain wrong.
 
Very interesting. Unfortunately I'm clueless in this subject and can't help you. I can only suggest you get them to another journal ASAP and tell them this story. But you probably knew that.
 
Garbage. Like Rossi's magic heater and his fake journal. Ohm and Quantum Ring Theory and Guglinski's ravings too.
 
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Legion are the promises to reveal astounding scientific secrets that evaporate just before the due date?
 
Andrea Rossi promissed to publish in June a paper by W. Guglinski in his blog Journal of Nuclear Physics but Rossi did not fulfill his promise...

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where is the link i had posted ?


http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php...eply&pid=13615&sid=3301&mode=&order=0&thold=0
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