carlson test and debunking randi

here a short translation.
astrology says things about humans but humans are not berechenbar(calculably), so astrology cannot be scientificaly proved.:p
 
idunno said:
here a short translation.
astrology says things about humans but humans are not berechenbar(calculably), so astrology cannot be scientificaly proved.:p
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I read it. First time I ever regretted having learned german...The usual clap trap excuse for astrology.

it DOES NOT MATTER that human behaviour are not measurable entity on the individual level.

Why ? Because astrology pretend it can do prediction on human character and behavior. It does not matter if science could not predict an individual behavior. All science need is to see if the prediction of astrology match with reality, and whether those prediction are specific enough that this could simply not done by chance. Astrology fail by both accounts. And that is ALL that matters.
 
idunno said:
here a short translation.
astrology says things about humans but humans are not berechenbar(calculably), so astrology cannot be scientificaly proved.:p
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Which is obviously rubbish. Astrologers just need to make a lot of hits in their predictions, and astrology would be proven. Astrology cannot be disproven on the other hand. It can only be shown that actual readings are wrong.
 
my teacher just told me to look at hour pillar for sexuality not month.
so if you still want send me those male birthdates with time so i can guess which ones are gay.
im not convinced by your skepticism cause i have many cases like Moahmed Atta. If i had a look art his chart without knowing him, i would still say he was easily inclined to evil. No confirmation bias here as this is a clear cut chart for me.;)
 
idunno said:
my teacher just told me to look at hour pillar for sexuality not month.
so if you still want send me those male birthdates with time so i can guess which ones are gay.
im not convinced by your skepticism cause i have many cases like Moahmed Atta. If i had a look art his chart without knowing him, i would still say he was easily inclined to evil. No confirmation bias here as this is a clear cut chart for me.;)
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yeah i know..here we go again...:D
 
steenkh said:
Which is obviously rubbish. Astrologers just need to make a lot of hits in their predictions, and astrology would be proven. Astrology cannot be disproven on the other hand. It can only be shown that actual readings are wrong.
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if astrology was about prediction we would be done for.
If its raining outside you can choose to go out and get wet or stay home. Same for Astrology. It shows trends.
 
idunno said:
my teacher just told me to look at hour pillar for sexuality not month.
so if you still want send me those male birthdates with time so i can guess which ones are gay.
im not convinced by your skepticism cause i have many cases like Moahmed Atta. If i had a look art his chart without knowing him, i would still say he was easily inclined to evil. No confirmation bias here as this is a clear cut chart for me.;)
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Yeah right, now that I have told you they are straight, you will miraculously find indications of that in their time of birth. Sigh.
 
And how do you know you are reading the charts for evil any better than your attempt at reading it for being gay? When you seem to be right you stick with your interpretation, when you are wrong you suddenly find that you should have been doing it differently. Yeah, no confirmation bias going on at all there...
 
idunno said:
my teacher just told me to look at hour pillar for sexuality not month.
so if you still want send me those male birthdates with time so i can guess which ones are gay.
im not convinced by your skepticism cause i have many cases like Moahmed Atta. If i had a look art his chart without knowing him, i would still say he was easily inclined to evil. No confirmation bias here as this is a clear cut chart for me.;)
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Great, so your best example of proving astronomy is by looking at the chart of someone you already had information about, then saying 'yes, that's exactly what I would have said if I didn't already have the information.'

And then claim that there's no confirmation bias. Well done, you have obviously learnt all about how to conduct a test.
 
From arthwollipot: I'm actually bisexual - I just haven't met the right man yet.

From Kieran: Read it again and think about it ...

idunno said:
An half Arse-bandit(grin)? Undecided? Hotel or Motel?(kidding):D
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*sigh* - you seem to have had a sense of humour by-pass so I'll spell the joke out slowly for you ...

  • A straight man can say ... "I am bisexual, I just haven't met the right man yet."
  • A gay man can say ... "I am bisexual, I just haven't met the right woman yet."
  • A straight woman can say ... "I am bisexual, I just haven't met the right woman yet."
  • A gay woman can say ... "I am bisexual, I just haven't met the right man yet."
  • A bisexual person say ... "I am bisexual."
  • A completely a-sexual person can say ... "I am bisexual - I've just never met anyone right."
... now do you understand the joke? Everyone is bisexual under the conditions laid out by arthwollipot ... that was what you were clinging to as a hit and as a sign of "honesty" ...
 
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Mashuna said:
Great, so your best example of proving astronomy is by looking at the chart of someone you already had information about, then saying 'yes, that's exactly what I would have said if I didn't already have the information.'

And then claim that there's no confirmation bias. Well done, you have obviously learnt all about how to conduct a test.
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Psst, i think you meant astrology...
 
idunno said:
my teacher just told me to look at hour pillar for sexuality not month.
so if you still want send me those male birthdates with time so i can guess which ones are gay.
im not convinced by your skepticism cause i have many cases like Moahmed Atta. If i had a look art his chart without knowing him, i would still say he was easily inclined to evil. No confirmation bias here as this is a clear cut chart for me.;)
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Just curious, does your "teacher" get it right as often as you seem to do?
 
idunno said:
read and shut up
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You know, idunno, your choice of avatar (the little kid) is the one intelligent thing you've done.

I keep overlooking foolishness, superstition, discourtesy, and bigotry because, in the back of my head, I keep thinking that you're a little kid.

You're not.

You're enough of an adult to be held to greater expectations, regardless of how childlishly you behave.

You owe everyone here an apology.
 
Complexity said:
You know, idunno, your choice of avatar (the little kid) is the one intelligent thing you've done.

I keep overlooking foolishness, superstition, discourtesy, and bigotry because, in the back of my head, I keep thinking that you're a little kid.

You're not.

You're enough of an adult to be held to greater expectations, regardless of how childlishly you behave.

You owe everyone here an apology.
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changing topic? Read and shut up. I am the kid in the phot ,38 years ago:boxedin:
 
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