Can we control the temperature of Earth?

[Reality Check]

If the MF of the Solar wind was 1000 times weaker that the Suns MF and hence 500 times weaker that the Earth MF, - it would not be able to push the magnetosphere of the Earth. But it does.

Learn some basic physics, Bjarne: The solar wind has no MF. It is a quasi-neutral plasma and so has no MF. The most that you can say is that weak MF's exist on a small (meter length) scale caused by the movement of charges particles in it.

The solar wind is made of charged particles. These interact with the Earth's MF. This "pushes" the Earth's magnetosphere around.

• The Earth's Magnetic Field
• Earth's magnetic field

This of course has no effect at all on the overall strength of the Earth's MF.

 

[Reality Check]

4000 Gauss.
Pretty strong
And how do you think such MF is created?

4000 Gauss.
Pretty weak
Sunspot

 

[Bjarne]

Learn some basic physics, Bjarne: The solar wind has no MF. It is a quasi-neutral plasma and so has no MF. The most that you can say is that weak MF's exist on a small (meter length) scale caused by the movement of charges particles in it.

The solar wind is made of charged particles. These interact with the Earth's MF. This "pushes" the Earth's magnetosphere around.

According to what we belive . yes.
It not only "pushing" the MF of the Earth it also affetcs the strenght of it.
We don't know why.

 

[dafydd]

According to what we belive . yes.
It not only "pushing" the MF of the Earth it also affetcs the strenght of it.
We don't know why.

YOU don't know why,please do not include us in your ignorant view of physics.

 

[Bjarne]

YOU don't know why,please do not include us in your ignorant view of physics.

I do not
Its up to you to chose the thread you like.

 

[Bjarne]

Double

 

[Reality Check]

According to what we belive . yes.
It not only "pushing" the MF of the Earth it also affetcs the strenght of it.
We don't know why.

According to what we measure. yes.
It not only "pushing" the MF of the Earth it also affects the strength of it locally and for a period of days or hours.
We know why. It is the basic physics of charged particles interacting with a MF.

 

[Bjarne]

According to what we measure. yes.

The MF of the solar wind interacts with the MF of the Earth
The is no way to distinguish / "meassure what is what.

We know why. It is the basic physics of charged particles interacting with a MF.

Crap

 

[Bjarne]

According to what we measure. yes.

I can find you many examples, that shows that we again an again are forced to change our understanding of the Sun.
But let us stick to the thread...

Also our understanding of the Solar Wind, is clearly not understood, and continues to surprise us.

The Earth's protective magnetosphere often develops two large holes that let in the largest leaks of solar wind, scientists say. Surprisingly, the holes are rended open in an interaction with the Sun's magnetic field that was previously thought to shield the Earth from solar particles.

Scientists at the American Geophysical Union meeting in San Francisco this week said they had been entirely wrong about how solar particles that cause the storms were entering the Earth's magnetosphere, a bubble of magnetism that surrounds Earth and protects us from charged particles from the Sun.
Scientists once believed that the particles entered when the Sun's magnetic field was aligned opposite to that of the Earth's. But the team's findings show that 20 times more solar particles enter the Earth's magnetic field when it is aligned in the same direction as the Sun's magnetic field than when the two are opposed.
http://www.newscientist.com/article...ths-magnetic-cloak-let-the-solar-wind-in.html

Coronal Hole: An area of the corona which appears dark in X-rays and ultraviolet light. They are usually located at the poles of the Sun, but can occur in other places as well. The magnetic field lines in a coronal hole extend out into the solar wind rather than coming back down to the Sun's surface as they do in other parts of the Sun.
http://www.spaceweathercenter.org/glossary/001/01.html

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Did you read that

The magnetic field lines in a coronal hole extend out into the solar wind rather than coming back down to the Sun's surface as they do in other parts of the Sun.

Hmmmm
Why could that be ?

 

[dafydd]

Crap

Will some one please inform the scientific world that all their ideas about the MF of the Earth are crap.Can a Nobel Prize be far away? It will be the first one-word prize winning paper in history.

 

[Bjarne]

Will some one please inform the scientific world that all their ideas about the MF of the Earth are crap.

We don't know why and how "particles" push / and increase the strenght of the MF of the Earth.

Can a Nobel Prize be far away?
It will be the first one-word prize winning paper in history.

What have the nobel prize to do with something we don't know ?

 

[dafydd]

We don't know why and how "particles" push / and increase the strenght of the MF of the Earth.


What have the nobel prize to do with something we don't know ?

That must be the stupidest question that you have ever asked here,and that is in the face of some very stiff self-competition.

 

[Bjarne]

That must be the stupidest question that you have ever asked here,and that is in the face of some very stiff self-competition.

I always thought that the most stupid question was: if there is only one true god.

 

[Reality Check]

Also our understanding of the Solar Wind, is clearly not understood, and continues to surprise us.

Also our understanding of the Solar Wind, is clearly not fully understood, and contimues to suprise you.

Hmmmm
Why could that be ?
http://www.science27.com/forum/sun2.jpg

I read that defintion in The Space Weaither glossary:

Coronal Hole: An area of the corona which appears dark in X-rays and ultraviolet light. They are usually located at the poles of the Sun, but can occur in other places as well. The magnetic field lines in a coronal hole extend out into the solar wind rather than coming back down to the Sun's surface as they do in other parts of the Sun.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]

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Hmmmm
Why could that be ?
Could it be the basic electrodynamics that you are ignorant of?

 

[Bjarne]

Coronal Hole: An area of the corona which appears dark in X-rays and ultraviolet light. They are usually located at the poles of the Sun, but can occur in other places as well. The magnetic field lines in a coronal hole extend out into the solar wind rather than coming back down to the Sun's surface as they do in other parts of the Sun.
http://www.spaceweathercenter.org/glossary/001/01.html

Bjarne
Did you read that

The magnetic field lines in a coronal hole extend out into the solar wind rather than coming back down to the Sun's surface as they do in other parts of the Sun.

Hmmmm
Why could that be ?

RC
Hmmmm
Why could that be ?
Could it be the basic electrodynamics that you are ignorant of?

The point here my friend is that :

The magnetic field lines in a coronal hole extend out into the solar wind rather than coming back down to the Sun's surface as they do in other parts of the Sun.

The question is where do you think that MF that leaves the Sun end up ?
I guess you believe: at the end of the world (Universe) ???

My believe: - is what goes up (from the Sun) MUST come back, (except particles) - and it does.
The solar wind travels to the “end of our solar system” and return back to the Suns magnetic North Pole.

The Solar-wind is the Suns MF DYNAMO.

It is hard many times to see the wood, because there is too many threes.

Have you ever thought about why the MF South pole power lines returns and comes back to magnetic North?

A MF is simple, it is space in motion.

You know that deformed-space must follow matter.

A MF is (deformed) space in motion. No one can deny that – (even not cows).

Or so soon you are ready to the new “language” >> a MF = space vacuum in motion.

Sooooooo simple, the history is not longer than this. Said? - yeeehh , but this is not my fail .

 

[MRC_Hans]

We don't know why and how "particles" push / and increase the strenght of the MF of the Earth.

Yes we do. Charged particles in motion create a magnet field. Ørsted dicovered that, over 100 years ago.

Hans

 

[dafydd]

I always thought that the most stupid question was: if there is only one true god.

Finish the question.

 

[Bjarne]

Yes we do. Charged particles in motion create a magnet field. Ørsted dicovered that, over 100 years ago.

And a cow produces milk. (but how ?)

The point is:
If you are in a boat of a quite lake, nothing happens you catch the fish and that’s it.
If you are in a boat of a river, you flow with the stream.
The exactly same with a particle, if space moves that particle moves too.
And because a particle interact / is connected with space/ bends space / the opposite would happen too.
If a particles moves space will move too.
So matter in motion is more than only gravity, because it is also space in motion.

It is in fact so cow logic simple, the only problem is that it is hard for our brain to accept that space really moves. – Our brain believes space is nothing. This is wrong. Get used to it, space is “something”

A MF is space in motion.
You can not move space form A to B without affecting space "behind" .
That’s why a MF must be a magnetic circuit / circulation, and that’s why a MF leaving the Sun must come back to the Sun.

The MF that follows the solar wind will return too.

 

[dafydd]

And a cow produces milk. (but how ?)

The point is:
If you are in a boat of a quite lake, nothing happens you catch the fish and that’s it.
If you are in a boat of a river, you flow with the stream.
The exactly same with a particle, if space moves that particle moves too.
And because a particle interact / is connected with space/ bends space / the opposite would happen too.
If a particles moves space will move too.
So matter in motion is more than only gravity, because it is also space in motion.

It is in fact so cow logic simple, the only problem is that it is hard for our brain to accept that space really moves. – Our brain believes space is nothing. This is wrong. Get used to it, space is “something”

A MF is space in motion.
You can not move space form A to B without affecting space "behind" .
That’s why a MF must be a magnetic circuit / circulation, and that’s why a MF leaving the Sun must come back to the Sun.

The MF that follows the solar wind will return too.

Priceless! Comedy gold.What if you start rowing upstream or turn on your outboard motor?

 

[MRC_Hans]

And a cow produces milk. (but how ?)

As it happens, we know how. (I don't know in detail, but I could look it up)

The point is:
If you are in a boat of a quite lake, nothing happens you catch the fish and that’s it.
If you are in a boat of a river, you flow with the stream.

Irrelevant.

The exactly same with a particle, if space moves that particle moves too.
And because a particle interact / is connected with space/ bends space / the opposite would happen too.

How come we can't observe this?

If a particles moves space will move too.
So matter in motion is more than only gravity, because it is also space in motion.

It is in fact so cow logic simple, the only problem is that it is hard for our brain to accept that space really moves. –

No. We don't observe space moving.

A MF is space in motion.

No. Total nonsense.

You can not move space form A to B without affecting space "behind" .
That’s why a MF must be a magnetic circuit / circulation, and that’s why a MF leaving the Sun must come back to the Sun.

Saying that it returns is wrong. A magnet field is a closed loop, but there is no motion.

The MF that follows the solar wind will return too.

Bjarne, you have no idea what so ever of what you are talking about.

Go learn some basic physics. Right now you are making a total fool of yourself.

Hans