Can we control the temperature of Earth?

[Bjarne]

Unlike Bjarne, RC knows that the best scientific explanation for the magnetic field of the Sun is dynamo theory and it is understood!

Amen

 

[Reality Check]

Amen

No - Science

 

[dafydd]

No - Science

No science seems to sum up Bjarne's position admirably.

 

[Bjarne]

No - Science

We know absolutely NOTHING about what causes the MF of the Sun, or why plasma leaving the Sun carries a MF.

And that’s it.

 

[Reality Check]

We know absolutely NOTHING about what causes the MF of the Sun, or why plasma leaving the Sun carries a MF.

And that’s it.

We know a lot about what causes the MF of the Sun and why plasma leaving the Sun DOES NOT "carries a MF".

And that’s it.

 

[Bjarne]

We know a lot about what causes the MF of the Sun and why plasma leaving the Sun DOES NOT "carries a MF".

And that’s it.

Sir you are on very thin ice and you know it.

 

[Reality Check]

Where does the Sun's magnetic field come from

Science has a good theory explaining the magnetic field of the Sun: Dynamo theory.

Now you have this idea that the Earth's MF is from a ferromagnetic crust which is physically impossible:

1. The magnetic poles have been measured to be ~5000 kilometers below the surface of the Earth.
2. Crustal magnetism is < 2% of the Earth's magnetism!

You also keep on parroting that the "geo-dynamo" theory is wrong somehow, e.g. "The days for the Geo-D-Crap is numbered." (nice logcal argument Bjarne ).

But the same theory is used for the Sun and works! (Stellar magnetic field.)

First asked 23 March 2010
Bjarne, Where does the Sun's magnetic field come from?

 

[Reality Check]

Sir you are on very thin ice and you know it.

Sir you are on very thin ice and you know it.
You have an idea that is easly shown to be wrong:

1. The magnetic poles have been measured to be ~5000 kilometers below the surface of the Earth.
2. Crustal magnetism is < 2% of the Earth's magnetism!

The dynamo theory is a solid sceintific theory that matches the actual observations.

 

[Bjarne]

But the same theory is used for the Sun and works! (Stellar magnetic field.)

This is even not a thesis.
Should that not be the case. Tell me HOW is the Suns MF and the Suns magma eruption magnetised

 

[Reality Check]

This is even not a thesis.
Should that not be the case. Tell me HOW is the Suns MF and the Suns magma eruption magnetised

Stellar magnetic field.

 

[Bjarne]

Stellar magnetic field.

This is even not a thesis.
Should that not be the case. Tell me HOW is the Suns MF and the Suns magma eruption magnetised

 

[Reality Check]

This is even not a thesis.
Should that not be the case. Tell me HOW is the Suns MF and the Suns magma eruption magnetised

Stellar magnetic field, i.e. moving plasma = moving charges = magnetic filed. Basic electromagnetism.

 

[Bjarne]

Stellar magnetic field, i.e. moving plasma = moving charges = magnetic filed. Basic electromagnetism.

It doesn’t matter
The Sun's MF is NOT understood

 

[MRC_Hans]

It doesn’t matter
The Sun's MF is NOT understood

By you it isn't. The rest of the world has no problem.

Hans

 

[Reality Check]

It doesn’t matter
The Sun's MF is NOT understood

The Sun's MF is understood. Your ignorance of the understanding does not matter.

 

[Bjarne]

The Sun's MF is understood. Your ignorance of the understanding does not matter.

Take a look at this:

New solar observatory to unlock sun's mysteries
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35314415/

Mysterious Speed Record May Explain Mystery of Sun
http://www.space.com/news/sun-record-conveyor-100312.html

http://www.iac.es/info.php?op1=23&op2=119&id=228
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2008cosp...37.3337V

The Mystery of Sun's Corona Deepens Even Further
http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Mystery-of-Sun-039-s-Corona-Deepens-Even-Further-80417.shtml

http://www.scienceclarified.com/Sp-Th/Stellar-Magnetic-Fields.html
Astronomers are still uncertain of the origins of stellar magnetic fields. But with continued observations, they believe they will learn more about the large and small structures of magnetic fields that should help them comprehend how and where those fields originate and how they affect the interiors and atmospheres of stars. Understanding stellar magnetic fields will help astronomers learn more not only about the physical makeup of stars, but about their future evolution, as well.

http://www.physorg.com/news164253692.html

Richard Marsden, ESA's project scientist, explained: "We expected the Sun to have a relatively simple magnetic field, such as the Earth's or that of a magnetised iron bar. We thought we were going to find a local increase in the field's intensity. But the probe did not detect any such thing and all the evidence so far suggests that the Sun has no south magnetic pole.
http://www.esa.int/esaCP/Pr_26_1994_p_EN.html

Are you so finish bla bla bla ?
.......

 

[Ocelot]

"There are things that are not known" in not the same thing as "Nothing is known"

Many things are known about the sun's magnetic field including a rough idea of how it originates from a dynamo. Showing that there is more to learn does not counter that fact.

If you want to turn dynamo theory on its head then come up with a better theory. You present meanderings are not a better theory as they rely on dynamo theory being impossible (despite being mathematically sound) and cannot replace dynamo theory for the sun's magnetic field.

 

[Reality Check]

Take a look at this:

Are you so finish bla bla bla ?
.......

Are you so ignorant of science bla bla bla ?
Just because we understand that there is a likely cause of the Sun's MF does not mean that we stop studying the Sun.

 

[Bjarne]

Are you so ignorant of science bla bla bla ?
Just because we understand that there is a likely cause of the Sun's MF does not mean that we stop studying the Sun.

M friend you said it was understood
It’s not. dot.
Either is the MF of the Earth. dot.

There are plenty of spaces for new thoughts.

 

[dafydd]

M friend you said it was understood
It’s not. dot.
Either is the MF of the Earth. dot.

There are plenty of spaces for new thoughts.

Except between your ears.