Can Soul, Ghosts Exist?

[Kumar]

The whole point about evidence-based medicine is that it is not "absolute." The decision whether to use a medicine depends upon the evidence available at the time. If you were to wait for absolute proof that something is completely safe before using it, you would never be able to use anything at all, as there would always be the possibility that evidence of adverse effects could be found tomorrow.

You are the one who keeps bringing the word "absolute" into things. Scientists are not so arrogant as to assume that their knowlege is flawless. A current theory can always be overturned if evidence contradicting it comes to light. If you knew anything at all about science you would know this. It's how science works!

Anyone who claims that their knowlege is "absolute" is betraying an intention to ignore any future evidence. Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that homeopathy hasn't changed significantly since Hahnemann's time.

Yes, your experiments should continue. Why you got irritated so much with word "absolute" which means free from imperfection? Is it bad or good if you don't need additions, modifications, banning, restricting etc. if practical. In my opinion h.remedies should be pruned substancially to make it really practical for the maximum capacity of humal brain--as mostly done by Dr.Sch.

 

[Donks]

Yes, your experiments should continue. Why you got irritated so much with word "absolute" which means free from imperfection? Is it bad or good if you don't need additions, modifications, banning, restricting etc. if practical. In my opinion h.remedies should be pruned substancially to make it really practical for the maximum capacity of humal brain--as mostly done by Dr.Sch.

Dr.S. remedies are far from perfect. They don't even work. They can't fit your definition of "absolute."

 

[Ashles]

But where I said as you interpreted. You made hell to heaven. Why you bring sentiments & emotions in between, when I try to discuss your concept in science.

"I try to discuss your concept in science" - This, one sentence after the 'hell to heaven' comment.
Kumar you don't know any science so you aren't in a position to talk about it.

Frankly you don't want to solve your problems in your ego or in your skepticism. I was thinking about logic & science of Az... Anyway undue & unrequired killing can be wrong-whether botanical or zoological.

So it's wrong for a cat to kill a mouse? A lioness killing a zebra? A bacterium killing another bacterium? A chimp kiling another chimp?
Who decides what is 'wrong'. You? How scientific. You certainly are Mr Science.

But what is undue & unrequired--we have to find out. I just look at killing causing nature imbalance & what interfere in reproduction/progress of nature, as somewhat real killing. You can compare habits of other species in their 'balance state'. Moreover, Fruits, honey, nector, minerals, remains after true death or left...etc are not killing.

What's a 'balance state'? Species are always increasing and decreasing according to environment, predators, food supply, disease etc. But that involves science. And you don't want to know about all that.

Antibiotics kill bacteria. Our bodies naturally kill bacteria. Yet you think that one of these is 'right' and one is 'wrong'.
And then you have the cheek to say you are talking about science?

What's that Kumar? You apologise for raising a stupid point that you couldn't back up?

No problem. Glad you have seen the error of your ways.

 

[Mojo]

In my opinion h.remedies should be pruned substancially to make it really practical for the maximum capacity of humal brain--as mostly done by Dr.Sch.

Which homeopathic remedies do you think should be "pruned?" What evidence do you base your opinion on?

 

[PixyMisa]

No, forget that. The only answer is insects. There must be an unknown species of tiny swarming gnats with reflective, almost transparent wings, and the ability to produce light either by emission like fireflies or through some fluorescent or phosphorescent molecule in dim light. In some UNCLEAR way, the spirit of the ghost can communicate with the swarm and cause them to briefly fly together in the shape of the dead person.

You've been playing too much Final Fantasy X.

(In the game, creatures called "pyreflies" behave exactly like this.)

 

[PixyMisa]

Yes, your experiments should continue. Why you got irritated so much with word "absolute" which means free from imperfection?

Because science is a process of learning.

Whereas homeopathy is just a stagnant puddle of ignorance.

In my opinion h.remedies should be pruned substancially to make it really practical for the maximum capacity of humal brain--as mostly done by Dr.Sch.

Since we know that all homeopathic remedies are chemically identical and have no effect whatsoever, you can prune as much as you like.

Just keep a good supply of labels handy.

 

[Ashles]

Whereas homeopathy is just a stagnant puddle of ignorance.

I like that. Nicely put.

 

[flume]

You've been playing too much Final Fantasy X.
(In the game, creatures called "pyreflies" behave exactly like this.)

Never played that game. (used to play EQ.)

But I think this idea makes much more sense than Kumar's EM radiation ideas. Unidentified species of insects? Possible (although extremely unlikely). Light emission from insects? Possible. Holding a position in space? possible. It's only the control of the swarm by spirit minds that is an issue.

 

[PixyMisa]

Never played that game. (used to play EQ.)

But I think this idea makes much more sense than Kumar's EM radiation ideas. Unidentified species of insects? Possible (although extremely unlikely).

That's probably the least unlikely aspect. There are enormous numbers of unidentified insect species.

Light emission from insects? Possible. Holding a position in space? possible. It's only the control of the swarm by spirit minds that is an issue.

Well, it's a silly explanation for an event that doesn't happen, but I agree that it makes much more sense than Kumar's ideas.

 

[flume]

That's probably the least unlikely aspect. There are enormous numbers of unidentified insect species.

( Yes, but unidentified glowing insects with a world-wide disribution, found in populated areas?)

 

[Vikram]

( Yes, but unidentified glowing insects with a world-wide disribution, found in populated areas?)

Are you implying that these insects are alien in origin?

Of course! it all makes perfect sense now...

 

[Kumar]

"I try to discuss your concept in science" - This, one sentence after the 'hell to heaven' comment.
Kumar you don't know any science so you aren't in a position to talk about it.


So it's wrong for a cat to kill a mouse? A lioness killing a zebra? A bacterium killing another bacterium? A chimp kiling another chimp?
Who decides what is 'wrong'. You? How scientific. You certainly are Mr Science.


What's a 'balance state'? Species are always increasing and decreasing according to environment, predators, food supply, disease etc. But that involves science. And you don't want to know about all that.

Antibiotics kill bacteria. Our bodies naturally kill bacteria. Yet you think that one of these is 'right' and one is 'wrong'.
And then you have the cheek to say you are talking about science?

What's that Kumar? You apologise for raising a stupid point that you couldn't back up?

No problem. Glad you have seen the error of your ways.

"I try to discuss your concept in science" - This, one sentence after the 'hell to heaven' comment.
Kumar you don't know any science so you aren't in a position to talk about it.

There is no such aspect which is mass......,with out science of it. Since, many understandings & concepts are invented/known long back, some changes in language, its form, basics/primaries/micro shown in gross/secondaries/macro for our better, practical & visible understanding, realities shown as play,by examples etc. or indirectly ..in there. Big cities/its modernizations,environments,treatments etc. can somewhat be understood/visulized by our ancient much knowledgable learned ancesstors==as "hell"[/b].

Why then it can be wrong to maintain human population also accordingly, in balance to 'natural health' in science & nature? Why we interfere by so hard & hrash measures? Is it not look bit right that 'everything go in accordance to nature'?

 

[PixyMisa]

Why then it can be wrong to maintain human population also accordingly, in balance to 'natural health' in science & nature? Why we interfere by so hard & hrash measures? Is it not look bit right that 'everything go in accordance to nature'?

No.

Because if everything went in accordance to nature, most of us would be dead, and there'd certainly be no forum here to let us argue the point.

The entire history of mankind is a struggle to prevent things going in accordance to nature.

 

[Kumar]

Which homeopathic remedies do you think should be "pruned?" What evidence do you base your opinion on?

Which are not in accordance with body's biochemistry.

Treatements can be best by 'similars' then by 'compensating/competitings' then be 'opposite/punishments' & then be 'sepration/surgeries/killing'. I think I posted some theory elsewhere somewhat like this & also indicated in some ancient but much accepted indications. Somewhat "SAAM">> "DAAM">> "DAND">> "BHED" i.e. SIMILARS>>BRIBE/PRICE>>PUNISH>>SEPRATE/LEAVE indicated for handling the problems in this sequence. Try searching, compare & relate accordingly.

 

[Donks]

Which are not in accordance with body's biochemistry.

Treatements can be best by 'similars' then by 'compensating/competitings' then be 'opposite/punishments' & then be 'sepration/surgeries/killing'. I think I posted some theory elsewhere somewhat like this & also indicated in some ancient but much accepted indications. Somewhat "SAAM">> "DAAM">> "DAND">> "BHED" i.e. SIMILARS>>BRIBE/PRICE>>PUNISH>>SEPRATE/LEAVE indicated for handling the problems in this sequence. Try searching, compare & relate accordingly.

Do you honestly think this makes any kind of sense?

 

[Kumar]

Because science is a process of learning.

Whereas homeopathy is just a stagnant puddle of ignorance.

Since we know that all homeopathic remedies are chemically identical and have no effect whatsoever, you can prune as much as you like.

Just keep a good supply of labels handy.

"homeopathic remedies are chemically identical and have no effect whatsoever"

Here only you misunderstand, due to miss, weakness or vested interest---although egoistic superierities/ignorances can's be denied. These effects to them which respects/have belief in them. These works energetically instead chemically(?). I am on line of trying to know why believers & skeptics feel/finds remedies so opposite in effects. Can there be any psycological & physiological effect in working f these remedies, of belief as both groups are very sure & it looks bit reality.

 

[PixyMisa]

"homeopathic remedies are chemically identical and have no effect whatsoever"

Here only you misunderstand

No I don't.

due to miss, weakness or vested interest

I have no particular weakness here, no vested interest, and no miss.

---although egoistic superierities/ignorances can's be denied.

Can? Can't? Whatever, you're wrong.

These effects to them which respects/have belief in them.

I really don't care what you believe. I care what works.

These works energetically instead chemically(?).

They don't work at all.

They've been tested.

They don't work.

They don't do anything at all.

I am on line of trying to know why believers & skeptics feel/finds remedies so opposite in effects.

Because skeptics pay attention to what actually happens, and believers make up happy stories to make themselves feel good.

Can there be any psycological & physiological effect in working f these remedies, of belief as both groups are very sure & it looks bit reality.

It's very simple:

Homeopathic remedies have been tested.

They do not work.

They have never been demonstrated to do anything at all.

What you believe is irrelevant; the facts speak for themselves.

 

[Mojo]

Originally posted by Mojo
Which homeopathic remedies do you think should be "pruned?" What evidence do you base your opinion on?

Originally posted by Kumar in reply to the above
Which are not in accordance with body's biochemistry.

Why do you think some, but not all, homeopathic remedies are "not in accordance with body's biochemistry" (seeing as they are all the same anyway)? What evidence caused you to come to this conclusion? And, to repeat my previous question, which homeopathic remedies do you think should be "pruned?" Be specific: name three.

Treatements can be best by 'similars' then by 'compensating/competitings' then be 'opposite/punishments' & then be 'sepration/surgeries/killing'. I think I posted some theory elsewhere somewhat like this & also indicated in some ancient but much accepted indications. Somewhat "SAAM">> "DAAM">> "DAND">> "BHED" i.e. SIMILARS>>BRIBE/PRICE>>PUNISH>>SEPRATE/LEAVE indicated for handling the problems in this sequence. Try searching, compare & relate accordingly.

Is this supposed to mean anything?

 

[Kumar]

They don't work at all.

They've been tested.

They don't work.

They don't do anything at all.


Homeopathic remedies have been tested.

They do not work.

They have never been demonstrated to do anything at all.

What you believe is irrelevant; the facts speak for themselves.

How these are tested as possibilty of colour changes & momentum changes on potentizaton--or somewhat part exitation or some potential energy stored?

 

[MRC_Hans]

How these are tested as possibilty of colour changes

Nobody has ever observed a color change on potentization. Not even homeopaths claim this. You are totally in the deep end here.

& momentum changes on potentizaton-

Which "momentum changes"? What are you talking about?


-or somewhat part exitation

You have been told at least 50 times that there is no such thing at part exitations. Are you completely dumb? Do you not understand ONE word we write?

or some potential energy stored?

How?

Hans