Can Hillary be elected?

RandFan said:
Let me see if I understand your logic. It must be exactly or at least rougly equivelant. Otherwise any and everything is fair game?
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*chuckle* Well, if you're going to make comparisons, as you did between "rumors and mean-spirited crap" aimed at Bush and the massive campaign of taxpayer-funded investigations, accusations, and impeachment, why yes, they should be at least roughly equivalent.

See, that's what comparison means. You compare the similarities. And in the matters of size, scale, cost to the taxpayers, and nature, what Bush has gone through isn't in the same ballpark. It's not even the same sport.
 
Mark said:
I can think of nothing "mean spirited" directed at Bush that was funded by my tax dollars. If you can correct me on that, please do so.

Your posts do seem to indicate a bias in favor of Republicans, but that is just my opinion, nothing more.
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I will concede that your tax dollars have not been used to smear Bush. I think using the Special Counsel to go after Clinton was wrong. Again, it WAS wrong. Did we all catch that? The Republicans got their ideas from the Democrats who went far affield in the Iran/Contra affairs. The Republicans have good teachers. But there is a smear campaign against Bush and I resent that Dems think they are lily white and pure and would seek to smear a president.

As for Bias, I make no pretension that I'm not biased to the right. I absolutely am. I consider myself libertarian (lowercase "L") that leans to the right. However I'm willing to be critical of Bush and anyone on the right. Furthermore I'm willing to give credit to folks like Bill Clinton, a person I spent much time defending during and after his presidency. I liked many things that Bill Clinton did and I have no problems admitting that.

Any more questions?
 
Cleon said:
*chuckle* Well, if you're going to make comparisons, as you did between "rumors and mean-spirited crap" aimed at Bush and the massive campaign of taxpayer-funded investigations, accusations, and impeachment, why yes, they should be at least roughly equivalent.
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I don't quite agree. Comparisons don't have to be exact to have value. I can compare an ant to an elephant. They are both biological, reproduce, and are made up of cells containing DNA. They are NOT roughly the same. And no they should not be roughly equivalent in my estimation. The Republicans simply exploited a weakness the way the Dems did to Reagan and if the Dems could exploit the same weakness now you can damn well be certain they would. The hate and vitriol is as strong towards Bush as it ever has been against any president. I'm not going to pretend that just because there has been no investigation against Bush that his opponents have played nice because they absolutely haven't.

Now if you want me to admit that the two examples are not exactly the same then I will so admit. Are they even roughly the same? No, is there some importance to that degree? I'll grant that there is. Do you believe that this is simply because the Dems are principled while the Republicans are not? I suggest you go back and look at Iran Contra. And BTW, there was reason to launch an investigation. Funds were illegally funneled into Bill Clinton's senatorial campaign. It was very likely that Bill knew. There were issues with the Travel Records and the firing of the staff. Bill Clinton DID lie.

I don't think he should have been impeached and I think our nation could have done without the investigation but when you are pointing fingers don't forget to point one at Bill Clinton who made some major mistakes as George Stephanopoulos and Mike McCurry point out in their books.

See, that's what comparison means. You compare the similarities. And in the matters of size, scale, cost to the taxpayers, and nature, what Bush has gone through isn't in the same ballpark. It's not even the same sport.
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A smear campaign is a smear campaign. Bush hasn't given the Dems something to investigate and I think the special council law is no more. The Dems created it and when the got burned with it they dropped it.
 
Hillary Electable?

What about a silver spoon, draft dodging, ex-party drug user, lackluster businessman with polarizing religious views?
 
The dems nominate Hilary Clinton, repubs nominate Condoleezza Rice,
now think bikini mud wrestling and what do you have?
:p
 
corplinx said:
Hillary Electable?

What about a silver spoon, draft dodging, ex-party drug user, lackluster businessman with polarizing religious views?
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Buchanan?
 
crimresearch said:
Buchanan?
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Talk to the hand.
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Synchronicity said:
The dems nominate Hilary Clinton, repubs nominate Condoleezza Rice,
now think bikini mud wrestling and what do you have?
:p
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Me going blind
 
Mark said:
Apparently you are hoping America will forget Ken Starr and his fruitless 44 million dollar campaign (tax dollars!) to slime the Clintons. In which he found NOTHING.
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Webster Hubbell: Bill Clinton friend and political ally; Hillary Clinton Rose Law Firm partner: embezzlement; fraud; two felony convictions

Jim Guy Tucker, Clinton's lieutenant governor and successor as governor: fraud; three felony convictions

William J. Marks Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker business partner; one conspiracy conviction

Jim McDougal: Bill and Hillary Clinton friend, banker, and political ally: eighteen felony convictions

Susan McDougal: Bill and Hillary Clinton friend; former wife of Jim McDougal: four felony convictions. Pardoned January 2001 by Bill Clinton in his last hours as President

David Hale: Bill and Hillary Clinton friend, banker, and political ally: two felony convictions of conspiracy and mail fraud

Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker; two felony convictions. Pardoned January 2001 by Bill Clinton in his last hours as President.

Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide; one conviction. Pardoned January 2001 by Bill Clinton in his last hours as President

Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent; fraudulent loans

Robert Palmer: Madison appraiser; one conspiracy felony conviction. Pardoned January 2001 by Bill Clinton in his last hours as President

Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president; embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign; two misdemeanor convictions

John Latham: Madison Bank CEO; bank fraud conviction

John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker; misdemeanor guilty plea; tax fraud

Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant, pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor count of trying to bribe David Hale

Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant, pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor counts of bribery, served fourteen months of a sixteen month prison sentence.

Source.. These are just the Whitewater scandal convictions.

In summary, Bill and Hill were surrounded by crooks but were not crooks themselves.
 
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