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Bush Administration Science

Show me these testimonies of hundreds of thousands of engineers
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This is fairly telling. Your default position is "9/11 was a government conspiracy". All it would take to back that up is a few scientists taking that same position. But there are no such scientists. So you demand evidence that none of them think 9/11 was a government conspiracy. The fact that none have felt the need to state that allows you to spring back to your default position.

I believe the Earth is flat.
No astronomers, geologists or phycisists agree with you.
Show me the testimony saying they don't agree with me.
 
T.A.M. said:
They are scientists. Have you ever read the "letters to the editor" section when a recent paper has come out and has less than credible evidenc/science in it. The section is full of comments from other scientists in the particular field, tearing the paper apart. Now when the NIST report came out, did we see any outcry of engineers in america, calling for the NIST leaders heads because their science or evidence was bad...no.

So you will not get "testimonies", but let me tell you, in the science community, of which I am a part, when a paper of such magnitude and importance comes out, and few if any complain of its contents or findings, the community as a whole is showing its support of the paper through its silence.

TAM
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I suggest that engineers who disagree are afraid of being called kook. It proves nothing that engineers haven't come forward. Most didn't get to examine the scene and the steel.
 
The thread may as well be closed. Its just full of people presuming to speak for every engineer. Pointless and nothing to do with my opening post
 
jessicarabbit said:
Well stop claiming they all agree then
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You misrepresent me. I did not say "they all agree." I said "they do not think it is controlled demolition." In other words, they do not disagree. Acceptance by silence. But you claim otherwise, so the burden of proof is all yours.
 
jessicarabbit said:
I suggest that engineers who disagree are afraid of being called kook. It proves nothing that engineers haven't come forward. Most didn't get to examine the scene and the steel.
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if an engineer has facts, they are safe

when the bring out the beam weapons with no proof, they are nuts

this is simple logic

Most scientist that wanted to did research and have access to the steel at the world trade center, hun, docker my man

they have studied and the real scientist and engineers are working on what they have learned

where have you been for 5 years, design improvements in WTC7 are proof

the papers in journals are proof
 
That is not how the scientific community works. Like I have said, thousands of engineers now use the NIST report for the purposes of constructing safer buildings. If they felt there were flaws in the evidence or science of the report, they would make it known, and would not be mocked for doing it...provided they could scientifically prove the errors they find. That is the thing about science, rabbit, we encourage a thorough "raking over the coals" of all research, so that in the end only the facts remain.

And once again, I ask you, how can you continue to live in an America where its people, such as these engineers, thousands of them, by your reasoning, are guilty through not speaking up, of the murder of 3000 americans, simply so they don't look like "kooks".

Horrible world you must live in.

TAM
 
jessicarabbit said:
The thread may as well be closed. Its just full of people presuming to speak for every engineer. Pointless and nothing to do with my opening post
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Nope sweetheart, I'm still waiting for YOUR work to be shown seeing as how you don't want to rely on anyone elses. When is this project being put out?
 
crucial_fiction said:
Nope sweetheart, I'm still waiting for YOUR work to be shown seeing as how you don't want to rely on anyone elses. When is this project being put out?
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Asking Jess for HER work is kind of crazy when no one else here has done their OWN work. When are you all releasing your studies. Print or net only??
 
Usual Suspect said:
Asking Jess for HER work is kind of crazy when no one else here has done their OWN work. When are you all releasing your studies. Print or net only??
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Can you read?

He said the reason he wanted to see HER WORK, was because she doesnt want to rely on anyone elses. That is different from most of us who actually have faith in the SCIENTISTS and ENGINEERS who were part of the investigation. We quote them, if we do not have the scientific prowess in the given field to make our own conclusions. Since she does not trust any of them, she must provide some evidence to counter it, or her argument is completely useless.

TAM
 
jessicarabbit said:
I am working on a film. Should be out next year. Got to compete with loose change.
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Make sure you donate a considerable portion of your profits to those who died on 9/11, just as I am sure that AJ and DA do...lol

TAM
 
T.A.M. said:
Make sure you donate a considerable portion of your profits to those who died on 9/11, just as I am sure that AJ and DA do...lol

TAM
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I wont be making profits. Im going to lose on it overall. Anyway a filmmaker has a right to earn a living.
 
make a living yes...no doubt. I know a few professional FILM MAKERS who do, and I know some who don't. That is what they do...that is their career. I also know, that most of them would be repulsed to find that some of their colleagues were making money off of the tragedy of 9/11.

On the other hand, there are alot of attention/fame seeking jerks who just want to capitalize on the contraversy. I know you must fall into the former, and must have a number of other films to your credit...right?

TAM

edit: and before you try to correct me, the words were put there seperately, as FILM MAKER, on purpose.
 
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