Bullhorning Bilderberg was yesterday

[DC]

i feel a bit discriminated. no swiss elitist invited and only one swiss Chairmen.

 

[Childlike Empress]

But We Are Change Züri was there!

 

[DC]

But We Are Change Züri was there!

i talked about Switzerland, not Züri

 

[Childlike Empress]

edit: Believe it or not, BILD reports and wants them to "rescue the Euro".

Jetzt schaltet sich Bilderberg ein. Retten SIE am Wochenende den Euro?

 

[Childlike Empress]

This guy from Romania published the best photos so far. Help identify your unelected Bilderberger!

Who for example is this elitist rascal showing a victory sign to the protesters? Cohn-Bendit? Nah.

 

[LightinDarkness]

Sounds like the usual "I HATE RICH PEOPLE/THOSE WITH MORE THAN ME!" populist rant to me, when I clicked the link and looked at some of his other stuff. Its ultra hip and vogue to do that nowdays, don't you know. Makes you friends with the cool kids.

Looks like absolutely nothing has changed.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Looks like absolutely nothing has changed.

Charlie Skelton disagrees:

[...] What a difference a year makes. Last year in Vouliagmeni when I tried covering the 2009 Bilderberg meeting, I had Greek policemen yelling "No fotografia!" at me at every turn. I was arrested, tailed, harassed, rearrested, yelled at, bundled into squad cars, lied to, intimidated, wrestled with and hounded round Athens like I was John Dillinger.

This year, the police have been deployed in the same extraordinary numbers, but they are smiling, rolling their eyes at the rigmarole; the riot police are giving the thumbs-up to protesters and honking their horns as they come round the "awareness roundabout" at the foot of the hotel.

"The police have been laughing and chatting," says Daniel Turon, a Spanish psycho-sociologist, here in Sitges to psycho-sociologise Bilderberg. "One of them said he had read a book about Bilderberg; another said, 'Yes, we understand.'" The Catalan police, he says, "have a different sensibility" from what you may expect. "They are Catalan. Their minds are independent."

Their minds, perhaps, have been focused by recent pay disputes. Two days ago, the police were on strike in Barcelona: they are facing a pay cut next month, as part of Spain's "austerity measures" (what the IMF calls "fiscal consolidation") – and disgruntlement abounds.

Yesterday, the Spanish newspaper El Público quoted the Catalan police union's estimate, that "the mere deployment of the Mossos d'Esquadra entails costs of €150,000 for each of the four days of the Bilderberg meeting". This union has lodged a formal complaint about the misuse of resources in guarding Bilderberg.

El Público shares the union's concern: "The members of the Bilderberg club have not been elected by the citizens [of this country] in a democratic process, but the costs of the meeting is being met by them." [...]

 

[LightinDarkness]

Charlie Skelton disagrees:

Umm...so you mean different countries that host Bilderberg meetings have different cultures and react to the woos differently? Sorry, nothing has changed. Still a bunch of people protesting things THE MAN based on their uninformed (hopes? dreams?) desires that something wrong must be taking place here just because powerful people meet from time to time.

Funny how these people control world events and are out to do us all harm (according to the protesters) and yet they can't keep the local police force under their thumb. Of course, they apparently can't control international events either: the Greek debt crises still occurred, and they even specifically had a meeting about it last year. Yet again, for so many powerful people hell bent on world domination, they are fail boating it.

 

[Childlike Empress]

The significant change this year is that the Bilderberg Group is now officially not a "conspiracy theory" anymore. Mainstream media have internationally acknowledged it's existence, forced to by the alternative media. If BILD and SPIEGEL report, it's part of consensus reality.

 

[LightinDarkness]

The significant change this year is that the Bilderberg Group is now officially not a "conspiracy theory" anymore. Mainstream media have internationally acknowledged it's existence, forced to by the alternative media. If BILD and SPIEGEL report, it's part of consensus reality.

Please provide your sources for 1 respected media outlet that is reporting the Bilderbergs as a global cabal that controls world events. Just 1.

No accepted media source is reporting that Bilderberg is a global cabal that meets yearly to set world events (that would be the conspiracy). The media has covered the Bilderberg's group meeting for years as a meeting of powerful people, just like they do ANY time world leaders get together and have a meeting. Of course international media have acknowledged its existence - it has since they started meeting - because it ACTUALLY OCCURS. But its not what your fellow conspiracy theorists think it is, and it has never been proven to be the global cabal that you guys think/wish is occurring.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Only after you provide a source for me claiming that they are a global cabal controlling world events - a believe i don't hold. But i hope you don't tell me that a meeting of 150 or so figures of THAT caliber is nothing the public should be thoroughly informed about.

Problem is, until recently the meetings were rarely mentioned at all in the "quality" media, no surprise given how many controllers of them are frequent guests.

I missed the frequent attenders of DIE ZEIT, top quality german weekly, on the list this year. Josef Joffe and Matthias Naß attended frequently and were on the semiofficial lists, but are not listed this year.

Turns out that Matthias Naß was there "unofficially" - he is already identified on the photos of the romanian activist.

 

[Orphia Nay]

But i hope you don't tell me that a meeting of 150 or so figures of THAT caliber is nothing the public should be thoroughly informed about.

Meh. I'd be worried if those guys didn't meet up for a chinwag occasionally.

 

[timhau]

The significant change this year is that the Bilderberg Group is now officially not a "conspiracy theory" anymore. Mainstream media have internationally acknowledged it's existence

Yes, that's very much unlike last year, when The Guardian sent someone there to report.

 

[timhau]

But i hope you don't tell me that a meeting of 150 or so figures of THAT caliber is nothing the public should be thoroughly informed about.

Umm... why should we? I think Jose Zapatero was the only elected official on your list; why should we be thoroughly informed when he meets the head honchos of Microsoft, The Washington Post, or Telefonica?

 

[LightinDarkness]

Only after you provide a source for me claiming that they are a global cabal controlling world events - a believe i don't hold.

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/bilderberg__global_cabal_224.html
http://www.eutimes.net/2010/05/bilderberg-global-cabal-pushes-agenda-before-meeting-in-sitges-spain/
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=117&contentid=6952
http://www.prisonplanet.com/bilderberg-fears-losing-control-in-chaos-plagued-world.html
http://www.infowars.com/bilderberger-plot-to-control-us-food-supply/
http://current.com/shows/upstream/92476053_methods-of-control-bilderberg-intel.htm
http://www.jeremiahproject.com/newworldorder/nworder04.html
http://www.bilderberg.org/bilder.htm
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/watsonrptbilderberg1.html
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_bilderberg_11.htm

And I could list 100 more. The truth is that central to Bilderberg conspiracy mythology is the idea that they are a global cabal bent on shaping world events. As with all conspiracy mythology, it has little relationship to the truth. But it is indeed that mythology which drives popular obsession with the group.

Why else are people protesting? I can see the signs now: "Even though we have no evidence that this is anything more than a meeting of powerful people, who time and again have shown that they cannot impact world events, you guys are evil!"

The truth just isn't as sexy as the conspiracy, is it?

But i hope you don't tell me that a meeting of 150 or so figures of THAT caliber is nothing the public should be thoroughly informed about.

435 powerful people in the United States Congress meet and plot control over the most powerful military force in the world for 6 months out of the year. Where is the protest? Where is the outrage? Obsession with the Bilderbergs is based on the flawed idea that because powerful people meet something shady must be going on. Its simply populist hysteria.

Problem is, until recently the meetings were rarely mentioned at all in the "quality" media, no surprise given how many controllers of them are frequent guests.

As always, you are woefully wrong -

The Wall Street Journal, 1976
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/djrepri...+Bernhard,+Is+Canceled+This+Year&pqatl=google

The New York Times, 1977
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00813FC3B5B167493C7AB178FD85F438785F9

Christian Science Monitor, 1977
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/csmonit...desc=Carter's+policies+discussed&pqatl=google

 

[Childlike Empress]

Only after you provide a source for me claiming that they are a global cabal controlling world events - a believe i don't hold.

LiD, i suspect you are deliberately misunderstanding what i wrote, but i wasn't clear. I meant to ask you to provide a source where I say what your straw man says.

They aren't a global cabal controlling world events, they are one of the most important inofficial steering commitees of "the west", strongly influencing world events.

If you aren't concerned with the obvious disconnect between the importance of the event and the media coverage it gets, i have to conclude that you are not understanding that this doesn't fit with what we are told are the ways our societies work and the values we "defend" in these bloody wars - you know, freedom and democracy, transparency, government for the people, yadda yadda.

If Henry Kissinger (still attending ) is dancing naked around an owl god or just - properly dressed - influencing carefully selected elected officials with his sick war criminal "insights" behind closed doors, is of secondary importance.

 

[LightinDarkness]

LiD, i suspect you are deliberately misunderstanding what i wrote, but i wasn't clear. I meant to ask you to provide a source where I say what your straw man says.

Nope - I debunked what you said and now you are changing as you scramble to try to explain yourself. Of course, since I never claimed what your new straw man tactic says I did this is a rather pathetic attempt to deflect.

They aren't a global cabal controlling world events, they are one of the most important inofficial steering commitees of "the west", strongly influencing world events.

[Citation Needed]

Time to back up this woo statement. I await your multiple referenced peer reviewed sources.

If you aren't concerned with the obvious disconnect between the importance of the event and the media coverage it gets, i have to conclude that you are not understanding that this doesn't fit with what we are told are the ways our societies work and the values we "defend" in these bloody wars - you know, freedom and democracy, transparency, government for the people, yadda yadda.

What disconnect? There you go ignoring the evidence again. Bilderberg meetings have been covered since they've started for what they are - a meeting of powerful people. As we've seen though they can actually do little to impact world events. But you've ignored that as well because you want them to be able to shape world events. They specifically had an entire meeting over the Greek debt crises and way to stop it...and it still occurred.

You want there to be something here and there is nothing.

If Henry Kissinger (still attending ) is dancing naked around an owl god or just - properly dressed - influencing carefully selected elected officials with his sick war criminal "insights" behind closed doors, is of secondary importance.

Your populist hysteria is duly noted.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Here's your straw man:

The significant change this year is that the Bilderberg Group is now officially not a "conspiracy theory" anymore. Mainstream media have internationally acknowledged it's existence, forced to by the alternative media. If BILD and SPIEGEL report, it's part of consensus reality.

Please provide your sources for 1 respected media outlet that is reporting the Bilderbergs as a global cabal that controls world events. Just 1.

 

[fourtoe]

Only Bill Gates? I don't trust a bunch of people meeting in a hotel who aren't Mac-friendly!

This is definitely one of the lamer CTs out there. There isn't any interesting CT "evidence" or "proof" to laugh at!

 

[Childlike Empress]

If you have nothing to say - or proof of Kissinger dancing naked around an owl god - please keep it to yourself.