Brexit: the referendum

It's when I pulled the trigger that I realised there was a cartridge in the chamber. Oooooops!

I think there are a fair few people about so used to their vote having absolutely no relationship to the way the country is run that they had so little respect for the system and for their vote that they thought it would be a bit funny to use it in an anti-establishment sort of a way, tee-hee.

Do we have years of political disenfranchisement to blame for what is likely to be a very depressing next 40 years?


-Related - The Parliamentary Labour Party are clamouring for the head of the man elected by the members of the labour Party not exactly a lifetime ago.
 
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I think there are a fair few people about so used to their vote having absolutely no relationship to the way the country is run that they had so little respect for the system and for their vote that they thought it would be a bit funny to use it in an anti-establishment sort of a way, tee-hee.

Do we have years of political disenfranchisement to blame for what is likely to be a very depressing next 40 years?

True,but a protest vote without considering what exacty you are voting for is still a stupid thing to do.
 
I am beginning to think that Heinlein was right when he said it was a mistake to allow someone the power of the franchise simply because they can avoid being killed before reaching the age of 18.......

How would you limit it? IQ? Education? Economic status?

I'm not saying that universal suffrage is perfect, but to paraphrase Churchill: 'Universal suffrage is the worst form of suffrage, except for all the others.'
 
True,but a protest vote without considering what exacty you are voting for is still a stupid thing to do.

But if someone's spent their entire voting lives without ever having seen their vote make a difference - and if one isn't particularly politically aware or well educated (because what's the point if your vote doesn't count) - then it might not seem like it. Until the morning after.
 
How would you limit it? IQ? Education? Economic status?

I'm not saying that universal suffrage is perfect, but to paraphrase Churchill: 'Universal suffrage is the worst form of suffrage, except for all the others.'

Yes. It is still depressing when the key campaign premise of the winning side had easily been shown to be wrong many times. It wasn't a matter of interpretation, there was only the tiniest sliver of truth in it.
 
How would you limit it? IQ? Education? Economic status?

I'm not saying that universal suffrage is perfect, but to paraphrase Churchill: 'Universal suffrage is the worst form of suffrage, except for all the others.'

I'm not sure what restrictions there are currently in place to restrict people who are mentally incompetent from voting but we need no more.

In the event that there is some restriction (which I would oppose) then I'd base it on some kind of pop quiz to demonstrate at least a passing familiarity with the issues at hand.
 
TV reporters are finding people across the UK who say they voted Leave as a protest, never realizing that they could win. The sudden economic impact is serving as a wake-up call to others. And of course Scotland and Northern Ireland voted heavily to stay in the EU. Question: Is there a mechanism that would allow a "re-do?" Apparently these results are not binding in a formal, legal sense. Could Parliament or someone else say "Wait a minute. Now that the pound has collapsed and the stock market has plummeted overnight, maybe you'd like to reconsider?"
 
TV reporters are finding people across the UK who say they voted Leave as a protest, never realizing that they could win. The sudden economic impact is serving as a wake-up call to others. And of course Scotland and Northern Ireland voted heavily to stay in the EU. Question: Is there a mechanism that would allow a "re-do?" Apparently these results are not binding in a formal, legal sense. Could Parliament or someone else say "Wait a minute. Now that the pound has collapsed and the stock market has plummeted overnight, maybe you'd like to reconsider?"

I think you'd have to run that past Rupert Murdoch for approval.
 

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