Brexit: the referendum

332nd said:
But can your nationalism move fast enough to stop mixism? Tick, tick, tick.
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We will endure at least in some areas. We may lose a lot of territory and numbers but we will not disappear entirely.

People don't like being put on course to genocide and dispossession. Shocking, I know.

We aren't going anywhere, though I know most of the nonwhite world is salivating at the idea of our extinction.
 
Skeptic Tank said:
We will endure at least in some areas. We may lose a lot of territory and numbers but we will not disappear entirely.

People don't like being put on course to genocide and dispossession. Shocking, I know.

We aren't going anywhere, though I know most of the nonwhite world is salivating at the idea of our extinction.
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Who is "we"???
 
"People don't like being put on course to genocide and dispossession"

You are not a refugee from a war zone, so I have no idea what you are ranting about. Care to explain ?
 
Skeptic Tank said:
Nationalism coming back. Deal with it and brace yourselves for lots, lots more!

Thrilled with this result.
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More? Nope. In some countries idiots already self-destructed before even Brexit was voted and nobody else so far has another Cameron. Not even Poland is making that much noise. (And they got idiots running asylum against whom they were warned by their father...)

Francesca R said:
Right. And the British will never vote to leave when push comes to shove. . .
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Eh, they were jumping up and down about it since they joined. Nobody else has such history nor useful idiots like Cameron. And it seems it was more of protest vote against politicians in Britain, then vote against EU. (Apparently a lot of people didn't even know WTF is EU...)

So far you describe fantasies of idiots not even remotely possible reality.
 
lionking said:
Who is "we"???
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People of European descent. Whites.

I know a lot of people find that category too broad, and even within the "movement" I'm part of (btw, we're growing very very fast as you may have noticed) there are plenty of people who wish to be focused more on specific nationalities, ethnicities, etc.

I sympathize with that view and ideally I'd like to see each subgroup preserved too, though that may not be possible, sadly.

Whatever flaws it may have, an overarching, umbrella White group identity is necessary and is absolutely present and growing.

It's a defensive reaction to dispossession and displacement. A rallying around a group identity those who would see us wiped out have absolutely no problem applying to us.

Anti-whites are never very confused about who's white and who isn't. Just ask one of them sometime to point out all the people with white privilege, if you're struggling to figure out who belongs in this category and who doesn't. They'll be able to help you out.

I am in communication with identitarians and nationalists from all over the world. You'd be shocked how many there are. You'd be shocked how many of us are former liberals. You'd be shocked at the accelerating pace of more white liberals coming over all the time. You'll be really shocked at where things have gotten to 10 years from now, if not a lot sooner than that.

Brexit was the first of many victories to come. I'm hoping Trump and Le Pen and maybe a revote in Austria and ultimately the EU breaking apart are all to come. There will be many setbacks and have been many already, but I think the overall trend is in our favor. We're often told how these instincts always threaten to reemerge in times of difficulty, and that's true. I just don't see that as a bad thing. It's survival.

What this comes down to is that the first world doesn't want to be devoured by the third world. The white genome doesn't want to be absorbed by the various brown and black genomes. They are far more prolific and will do so if not actively thwarted. The only thing which can actively thwart this process is race-conscious nationalism and it's coming back.
 
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Skeptic Tank said:
People of European descent. Whites.

I know a lot of people find that category too broad, and even within the "movement" I'm part of (btw, we're growing very very fast as you may have noticed) there are plenty of people who wish to be focused more on specific nationalities, ethnicities, etc.

I sympathize with that view and ideally I'd like to see each subgroup preserved too, though that may not be possible, sadly.

Whatever flaws it may have, an overarching, umbrella White group identity is necessary and is absolutely present and growing.

It's a defensive reaction to dispossession and displacement. A rallying around a group identity those who would see us wiped out have absolutely no problem applying to us.

Anti-whites are never very confused about who's white and who isn't. Just ask one of them sometime to point out all the people with white privilege, if you're struggling to figure out who belongs in this category and who doesn't. They'll be able to help you out.

I am in communication with identitarians and nationalists from all over the world. You'd be shocked how many there are. You'd be shocked how many of us are former liberals. You'd be shocked at the accelerating pace of more white liberals coming over all the time. You'll be really shocked at where things have gotten to 10 years from now, if not a lot sooner than that.

Brexit was the first of many victories to come. I'm hoping Trump and Le Pen and maybe a revote in Austria and ultimately the EU breaking apart are all to come. There will be many setbacks and have been many already, but I think the overall trend is in our favor. We're often told how these instincts always threaten to reemerge in times of difficulty, and that's true. I just don't see that as a bad thing. It's survival.

What this comes down to is that the first world doesn't want to be devoured by the third world. The white genome doesn't want to be absorbed by the brown and black genomes. They are far more prolific and will do so if not actively thwarted. The only thing which can actively thwart this process is race-conscious nationalism and it's coming back.
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Thanks. I was just trying to expose your disgusting racism to those who may not have seen your previous "contributions" to the forum.
 
Ape of Good Hope said:
I live in Somerset, which voted 61.2% for Leave, and I'd describe the mood on the streets as subdued rather than jubilant. As if it's sinking in that a 'protest vote' can have damaging real-world ramifications.
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That could be the case, then again the lack of a jubilant response may be the results of Remain supporters not wanting to antagonise their neighbours and/or it's a reflection of people having made a difficult decision with what they considered negatives on both sides. Rather like, say, putting an animal out of its misery - it's an unpleasant job that needed doing so no need to be jubilant afterwards.

That said, I really do hope that some Remain supporters look at the "facts" on which they made their decision and subject them to some scrutiny. If they still stack up then fair enough.
 
lionking said:
Thanks. I was just trying to expose your disgusting racism to those who may not have seen your previous "contributions" to the forum.
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No problem. Glad to help.

I would've seen it the same way you do until a few years ago. It's indoctrination speaking, more than anything else.

Someone wanting their people to survive and have self-determination and not be put on course to becoming a hated minority in the societies their group built is not disgusting, though it may or may not technically be "racism." I'm unconcerned whether it is that.

What is "racism" other than in-group preference? In-group preference is universal to our species. Tribalism is built into us. Non-racists don't exist.

I'm of almost entirely Irish descent, myself. Is it awful and racist of me to realize that if Ireland were to undergo massive demographic changes (and it is, and it will more and more if it isn't stopped) to the point where it could no longer be clearly identified with the Irish genome as we've known it, and the physical traits we associate with that... that I would be deeply saddened by that, to say the least?

It probably is racist. It's also entirely natural and entirely appropriate to feel that way.

Nobody wants their group to fade away, or lose control of their ancestral land(s), or be absorbed and made unrecognizable, or be replaced by completely different types of people.

Would Ireland be Ireland in any meaningful way if you completely swapped out the population for Nigerians or Guatemalans? I say no. Definitively no. Even if they all spoke with perfect Irish accents and lived the same way, something would have been lost. A people would have been lost.
 
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The breakdown in voting (according to polls).

Remain
Employed
Young
More Educated
Left
Asians
Blacks
Muslims
AB social groups
Those identifying as British
Scots
Irish
People thinking life got better in the last 30 years

Leave
Unemployed
Retired
Old
Less Educated
Right
Christians
Whites
Council tenants
C2DE social groups
Those indentifying as English not British
English
Welsh
People thinking life has got worse in the last 30 years
People paying little or no attention to politics


The conclusion of the article is also interesting.

More than three quarters (77%) of those who voted to remain thought “the decision we make in the referendum could have disastrous consequences for us as a country if we get it wrong”. More than two thirds (69%) of leavers, by contrast, thought the decision “might make us a bit better or worse off as a country, but there probably isn’t much in it either way”.
 
Allow me to add a few annotations:

Remain
Employed (Those for whom current globalist paradigm is temporarily working out)
Young (Inexperienced, naive)
More Educated (More indoctrinated by an educational system which has been fully converted into an anti-white, anti-patriotism, anti-tradition brainwashing pipeline)
Left (Marxists)
Asians (Racial outsiders benefiting from demographic conquest of someone else's territory and wanting continued access to it)
Blacks (Racial outsiders benefiting from demographic conquest of someone else's territory and wanting continued access to it)
Muslims (Racial/religious outsiders benefiting from demographic conquest of someone else's territory and wanting continued access to it - looking to expand their territory)
AB social groups (Privileged, shielded from consequences of cheap labor flooding in)
Those identifying as British (Those with one or more reason to be unable to identify as English plausibly)
Scots (Chip on shoulder, further from direct impact of increasing diversity for now)
Irish (Chip on shoulder, further from direct impact of increasing diversity for now)
People thinking life got better in the last 30 years (Privileged)

Leave
Unemployed (Those who are not benefiting from current globalist dynamic)
Retired (Experienced, wise, able to remember their nation before recent dramatic demographic changes)
Old (Same as above)
Less Educated (Less indoctrinated into self-hate and hatred of their own people, history, and society)
Right (Those whose worldview is actually constructive and self-sustaining, and in keeping with those who built the nation in the past. As opposed to leftists who are totally destructive and parastitic and who merely burn through the legacy left to them by more traditionalist ancestors)
Christians (People with a connection to the longstanding religious history of England)
Whites (People with a connection to the longstanding, ancient, native genomes of the British Isles)
Council tenants
C2DE social groups (People who stand to be replaced by cheap immigrant labor the greedy globalists wish to flood in by the millions)
Those indentifying as English not British (Those with a real connection to England and a good reason to want to see it continue to have its own identity and connection to its history rather than just become a soulless playground for globalist diversity social experimentation)
English (Same as above)
Welsh (Less of a chip on the shoulder than Scots and Irish, closer to Ground Zero of diversity's impact)
People thinking life has got worse in the last 30 years (People with a legitimate reason to feel that way because they've seen their country taken from them and given more and more to outsiders with no real connection to it)
People paying little or no attention to politics (People who are fed up with a political system that has devolved into a bunch of people taking turns at screwing them over)
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Did I inject a lot of slant here? Yep! Sure did. That's the point. They want you to view this in a certain way, and I want to point out that there's another way entirely to view it, and I happen to think it's also true and accurate.
 
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Skeptic Tank said:
Nationalism coming back. Deal with it and brace yourselves for lots, lots more!

Thrilled with this result.
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What you promote is only a particular kind of "nationalism". It is best described as racism. In the UK one of the component countries is governed by a "national" party. Now, what was the result of the referendum in that country?

Part of another UK country votes strongly for another "national" party. How did that section, and indeed the majority of the area, vote in the referendum?

The fact is: nationalism, where it seeks democratic constitutional change, and is not a cover for simple racism, is the thing which will ensure that the "lots more" you fantasise about will remain in your imagination, and never be translated into reality.
 
Skeptic Tank said:
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Did I inject a lot of slant here? Yep! Sure did. That's the point. They want you to view this in a certain way, and I want to point out that there's another way entirely to view it, and I happen to think it's also true and accurate.
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Correction:
Retired, old (Senile, remembering only good but forgetting bad. Often remembering things not existing nor happening)
 
Craig B said:
What you promote is only a particular kind of "nationalism". It is best described as racism. In the UK one of the component countries is governed by a "national" party. Now, what was the result of the referendum in that country?

Part of another UK country votes strongly for another "national" party. How did that section, and indeed the majority of the area, vote in the referendum?

The fact is: nationalism, where it seeks democratic constitutional change, and is not a cover for simple racism, is the thing which will ensure that the "lots more" you fantasise about will remain in your imagination, and never be translated into reality.
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Scotland hasn't felt near as much of the impact of diversity's blessings. It is very easy to be very naive about it there.

If Scotland ends up breaking away from the UK and staying part of the EU, or rejoining the EU, they will probably end up doing this exact same thing some number of years down the line after they actually start dealing with the invading hordes in a more significant way than they are now.
 
Hard to have an early general election in the UK now I think. Doesn't it need a two thirds commons majority? Or is there a loophole way through (aside from the Tories voting no confidence in themselves)?
 
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