Brexit: Now What? Part III

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3point14 said:
More good news, this time from BMW
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The below sentence in the article sounds weird:

It is not just the UK that would suffer from a failure to agree a Brexit deal. European car makers sell more of their products in the UK than British manufacturers sell in Europe.
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If the production of some lower segment cars, like mini and maybe others, is relocated to the continent, the Brits will have to imports cars, unless they all become rich enough to buy Rolls Royce, Bentley, Aston Martin or Jaguar cars, which doesn't seem realistic.

In others words at medium term the lack of British production could force the the British consummers to buy on the continent despite the customs duties on imported cars.
 
What? Lotus and Morgan can't supply the UK market?

We'll just do what New Zealand and Australia do and use secondhand Japanese cars.
 
This story provides an interesting insight into the mindset of the British Brexit negotiators and IMO gives a clear "tell" that no doubt the wily EU negotiators will use:

The Brexit Secretary David Davis has said he does not accept that Irish border issues can be resolved in the first stage of the UK negotiation with the EU.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39915364

It seems that David Davis wants to make a trade deal the number one priority of the Brexit discussions and is willing to put matters of border security into a second round of negotiations.

IMO this smacks of desperation on the part of the British team. They need a trade deal to wave in front of the British public to reassure everyone that it's all going to be fine. My concern is that in their haste to get such a deal, they'll leave important points unresolved and, more importantly, antagonise the EU unnecessarily.
 
The Don said:
This story provides an interesting insight into the mindset of the British Brexit negotiators and IMO gives a clear "tell" that no doubt the wily EU negotiators will use:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39915364

It seems that David Davis wants to make a trade deal the number one priority of the Brexit discussions and is willing to put matters of border security into a second round of negotiations.

IMO this smacks of desperation on the part of the British team. They need a trade deal to wave in front of the British public to reassure everyone that it's all going to be fine. My concern is that in their haste to get such a deal, they'll leave important points unresolved and, more importantly, antagonise the EU unnecessarily.
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This doesn't seem right to me. What good is a trade deal as a reassurance to the public if it will be in effect for a good two years before the election? This tactic would make a certain amount of sense if the parliament didn't trigger an early election, but this way is more likely to backfire than do any good.

I think it's a desperation of a different kind, the negotiating team knows UK has nothing to bring to the table but using expats as pawns and be prepared to risk security of the continent to improve the deal. It's despicable and harmful to all sides, but beggars can't be choosers. It's as if they're hoping for a stack overflow of bad feelings towards the UK, which will lead to a complete reversing the stances.

McHrozni
 
As I said in the other thread, if Corbyn wins, Macron and Merkel are going to eat him alive. All they have to do is dust off their Greece Playbook and then apply that to Britain.

Scenario 1

Macron and Merkel: So Mr Corbyn, you want this level of access to the single market? This is what we want in return...

[hours of tense negotiation. Read: meek submission by Corbyn, and European Commissioners having Prima Nocta might or might not be in the final version]

Corbyn: This is the deal for a social Europe, which will give Britain a part to play

Scenario 2

Corbyn: Hard Brexit it is then!

Macron: Oi, City of London! remember how you were worried about Corbyn? Come over to France, we've got you covered!

*gets out his phone and goes on Twitter*

Macron: @RealDonaldTrump, have I got a deal for you? It'll be like the good old days of the cold war, only Britain has gone red.

Trump: @Macron I'm listening...

[8 hours later]

Macron: Proud to announce an exclusive trade deal between the EU and the US. Sorry @Corbyn, you didn't get our invite! (1/2)

Macron: This is For The Many, Not The Few (2/2)

Trump: This has my seal of approval

Of course, Britain is screwed with May, but Corbyn would have us even more so.
 
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NWO Sentryman said:
Of course, Britain is screwed with May, but Corbyn would have us even more so.
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As a matter of fact it's not May or Corbyn (or, by the way, anyone else) who will screw Britain but the Brexit itself...

And the Brexit has been decided by a majority of voters...
 
Degeneve said:
As a matter of fact it's not May or Corbyn (or, by the way, anyone else) who will screw Britain but the Brexit itself...

And the Brexit has been decided by a majority of voters...
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True. I'm just bamboozled by people thinking that macron and Merkel are going to be lenient towards corbyn. No they will just turn the screws even tighter. We either get venezuela or syriza 2 electric boogaloo.
 
NWO Sentryman said:
True. I'm just bamboozled by people thinking that macron and Merkel are going to be lenient towards corbyn. No they will just turn the screws even tighter. We either get venezuela or syriza 2 electric boogaloo.
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Why are you dragging Venezuela in? They screwed themselves up on their own without any input form outside by insane economic and other policies and Syriza thought that ignoring reality to win elections will work out well. (Unsurprisingly neither didn't work at all)

Neither of them succeeded and didn't need any outside help to fail. And Greece is sort of functional only because they got outside money, otherwise they would be just another black hole...
 
NWO Sentryman said:
True. I'm just bamboozled by people thinking that macron and Merkel are going to be lenient towards corbyn. No they will just turn the screws even tighter. We either get venezuela or syriza 2 electric boogaloo.
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By the way I read today in an European newspaper that Macron, as expected, is on the same line as the other European leaders. No question to have a commercial deal with the UK before the the final agreement between the EU and the UK on the Brexit conditions.

If May, or any other UK politician, would be really courageous, she would explain that the Brexit is as very ill advised decision and that it would be wise and for the interest of the Kingdom not to pursue on that tack.

After all was it not a British PM who once told the people "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat"...
 
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