Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 6. Pick up sticks...

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angrysoba said:
No, it would get voted down by half the Tories and...the Labour Party. I suppose a lot of the latter will defy the whip, but...enough of them?



It is bizarre how Theresa May has arranged a deal she surely must have known could not pass, and that now she knows it won't is still going to put it to the vote anyway as "the only deal possible".
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I dont think its bizarre at all. she got the only deal she was ever going to get and nothing she negotiated would ever please the majority anyway.

It now seems more and more likely that at least a few of the key figures in leave were planning this all along to make money off the carcass of the UK.
 
Information Analyst said:
The gathering press coverage seems to rely mostly on an appeal to incredulity that someone who is an "actor" could be appearing in anything other than a paid capacity.
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I've not been following it, but from what's in this thread my question would be "why was she being given a platform?" (as with the disproportionate platform given to UKIP and especially Farage over the years).
 
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Spitting Image ran through to early 1996, so covered the start of Blair's premiership. In recent years Newzoids did manage to lampoon Johnson, Gove, May ("Icy stare!"), and Corbyn, as well as Trump.
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Tony Blair became PM in May 1997 (leader in 1994) but, Spitting Image had him sussed anyway.

 
Captain_Swoop said:
Portillo has carefully cultivated his 'eccentric' traveller image with his 'Railway Journeys' series.
People forget his politics.
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I haven't. I still smile when I remember that declaration in 97.:)

Archie Gemmill Goal said:
I dont think its bizarre at all. she got the only deal she was ever going to get and nothing she negotiated would ever please the majority anyway.

It now seems more and more likely that at least a few of the key figures in leave were planning this all along to make money off the carcass of the UK.
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Well frankly it would almost be a relief to believe someone had a plan and this wasn't mindless stupidity...
 
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P.J. Denyer said:
I've not been following it, but from what's in this thread my question would be "why was she being given a platform?" (as with the disproportionate platform given to UKIP and especially Farage over the years).
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It was one of those segments where they put a half dozen "normal people" on the stage to say man of the people stuff
 
Diablo said:
It woudn't be so lousy.
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Why not?

Why would the EU offer anything more?

If Florida seceded from the union on it's own I don't really see any reason for the rest of the US to be too concerned with giving them a great trade deal. **** em, if they want out. And they have much nicer weather.

And if you get a deal, it won't be any better than being a member of the EU, with the one exception that you no longer have a voice in the EU. Leavers remind me of the guy who quits paying his country club dues but still wants to keep his regular tee time on Saturday morning. What, he'll still pay the cart fees, what's the big deal?

I imagine I'm rehashing old arguments, though. So, feel free to ignore.
 
Britain is planning to build its own space satellite-navigation system after pulling out of the EU's Galileo project, the prime minister has said.

The UK had wanted to stay part of Galileo after Brexit, but the EU said it would be banned from the extra-secure elements of the programme.

UK science minister Sam Gyimah has quit over the row, saying it exposed the flaws with Theresa May's Brexit deal.

"Galileo is a clarion call that it will be 'EU first'," he said.

The UK's interests "will be repeatedly and permanently hammered by the EU27 for many years to come", he added in a Facebook post setting out his reasons for resigning. He also said he would be voting against Mrs May's deal.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46407249
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Britain is planning to build its own space satellite-navigation system after pulling out of the EU's Galileo project, the prime minister has said.

The UK had wanted to stay part of Galileo after Brexit, but the EU said it would be banned from the extra-secure elements of the programme.

UK science minister Sam Gyimah has quit over the row, saying it exposed the flaws with Theresa May's Brexit deal.

"Galileo is a clarion call that it will be 'EU first'," he said.

The UK's interests "will be repeatedly and permanently hammered by the EU27 for many years to come", he added in a Facebook post setting out his reasons for resigning. He also said he would be voting against Mrs May's deal.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46407249
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It's like someone breaking up and then complain that they are being unfairly punished for it because they can no longer use their former partners Netflix account.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Britain is planning to build its own space satellite-navigation system after pulling out of the EU's Galileo project, the prime minister has said.

The UK had wanted to stay part of Galileo after Brexit, but the EU said it would be banned from the extra-secure elements of the programme.

UK science minister Sam Gyimah has quit over the row, saying it exposed the flaws with Theresa May's Brexit deal.

"Galileo is a clarion call that it will be 'EU first'," he said.

The UK's interests "will be repeatedly and permanently hammered by the EU27 for many years to come", he added in a Facebook post setting out his reasons for resigning. He also said he would be voting against Mrs May's deal.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46407249
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Soooo, he is mad that the because the UK has quit to put the 'UK first' and it turns out that that sentiment is then returned?
 
Yet again leaver dreams of having all the UK cake and eating all the EU cake turn to no cake for anyone. Still at least we will have potatoes and British wine!
 
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