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Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 6. Pick up sticks...

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Guido Fawkes is reporting that the Conservatives have rushed into candidate selection for all of their least winnable seats, suggesting that they are on an election footing. Didn't May promise to quit before the next election? So what's this all about?

Strong & stable?
 
An opinion poll published today showed 56% now in favour of remain. Do you not find it worrying that after the debacle of the last 2.5 years, 44% of the public still want to leave the EU?

Not sure if worrying is the right word. Given my overall opinion of the UK electorate is more relief that 56% seem to have managed to find the obvious right answer.
 
Been trying to weigh up if Corbyn strategy is right or wrong. On balance I think it is right in regards to what is the point of having talks with May if she isn't going to change her position at all and this is a good test of that. On the other hand we need to get some resolution as to what the next steps will be as quickly as possible.
 
In any case, if we follow this weird logic then if a 2nd vote is held then all it means is that those who voted the first time should vote the same way again. This alone might well see a majority for remain once changes in the electorate are taken into account.
 
In any case, if we follow this weird logic then if a 2nd vote is held then all it means is that those who voted the first time should vote the same way again. This alone might well see a majority for remain once changes in the electorate are taken into account.


https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-uk-remain-parliament-force-second-referendum


Polly Toynbee said:
You could call it swing Saturday or crossover day, for this Saturday, 19 January, marks an important moment. This is the day, in theory, when the country turns remain. Even if not a single person has changed their mind since the referendum, the demographic shift alone will have done the heavy lifting. Enough old leavers will have died and enough young remainers will have come on to the electoral register to turn the dial on what the country thinks about Brexit.
 
In any case, if we follow this weird logic then if a 2nd vote is held then all it means is that those who voted the first time should vote the same way again. This alone might well see a majority for remain once changes in the electorate are taken into account.

All the remainers have an obligation to vote leave now. Don't be a sore loser.
 
Been trying to weigh up if Corbyn strategy is right or wrong. On balance I think it is right in regards to what is the point of having talks with May if she isn't going to change her position at all and this is a good test of that. On the other hand we need to get some resolution as to what the next steps will be as quickly as possible.

Corbyn's strategy is (having heard from the SNP/Green/Lib encounters with May this past day) correct, in that she is clearly being completely intransigent, so there's little point. However, I suspect it's not so much strategy as fluke.

He's as stubborn and blinkered as she is, and still has his imaginary election in sight. Unless he finally comes to his senses and realises that is a complete pipe dream then I fear he'll happily keep us chugging towards the cliff edge.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-uk-remain-parliament-force-second-referendum
Originally Posted by Polly Toynbee


You could call it swing Saturday or crossover day, for this Saturday, 19 January, marks an important moment. This is the day, in theory, when the country turns remain. Even if not a single person has changed their mind since the referendum, the demographic shift alone will have done the heavy lifting. Enough old leavers will have died and enough young remainers will have come on to the electoral register to turn the dial on what the country thinks about Brexit.

I would query that, as the main stats I have seen have only listed those over 65yrs as being leave voters. However, in that group, I have read that those who actually were adults in the war were largely remain voters, while baby boomers (those who reached adulthood after the war) are the leave voters.

Can't find any solid data to back this up though.
 
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