Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 6. Pick up sticks...

[Belz...]

If the model is out there, it is on the voter to access it.

Irrelevant.

And we are stuck with our choices. You just can't change them. That is unethical.

Your "I don't understand how principles work" performance art needs a bit more tuning.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Hitachi have pulled out of contracts to build nuclear power stations.
They are prepared to take a £2.4bn hit toget out of it.
Toshiaki Higashihara, CEO of Hitachi, said in March 2016 before the referendum that his firm was against Brexit and it’d have to review its uk investments including the nuclear project if we voted to leave the EU.

Toshiba pulled out of a nuclear power contract last November.

 

[Archie Gemmill Goal]

And we are stuck with our choices. You just can't change them. That is unethical.

How? I decided to buy a house in a certain location and I am now selling it and will move somewhere else. The option to change my mind is always open to me. How on earth would it be unethical to change my mind about something if that choice is open to me?

 

[The Don]

Hitachi have pulled out of contracts to build nuclear power stations.
They are prepared to take a £2.4bn hit toget out of it.
Toshiaki Higashihara, CEO of Hitachi, said in March 2016 before the referendum that his firm was against Brexit and it’d have to review its uk investments including the nuclear project if we voted to leave the EU.

Toshiba pulled out of a nuclear power contract last November.

S'alright, after a no-deal Brexit we won't need electricity, we'll be back to rubbing sticks and banging rocks together to produce the latest technological marvel - fire.

 

[Archie Gemmill Goal]

Hitachi have pulled out of contracts to build nuclear power stations.
They are prepared to take a £2.4bn hit toget out of it.
Toshiaki Higashihara, CEO of Hitachi, said in March 2016 before the referendum that his firm was against Brexit and it’d have to review its uk investments including the nuclear project if we voted to leave the EU.

Toshiba pulled out of a nuclear power contract last November.

This one on the face of it isn't obvious to me. Not sure what impact Brexit will have this particular investment? Off the top of my head is it just a currency/exhange rate issue?

 

[BobTheCoward]

How? I decided to buy a house in a certain location and I am now selling it and will move somewhere else. The option to change my mind is always open to me. How on earth would it be unethical to change my mind about something if that choice is open to me?

Something is not ethical simply because the option is available to you. Some options are ethical, some are not.

It is like when you are a child, and you choose a video game to buy. Sometimes you made the wrong choice. Well, you had one choice, you made it, and now you better learn to like it.

ETA: or when you signed up to play a sport and you found out you hated it, you finished the season.

 

[Belz...]

Some options are ethical, some are not.

Oh, do please tell us how you distinguish the two. And don't tell me you have no opinion on that. You clearly do, since you called changing one's mind unethical.

 

[Archie Gemmill Goal]

Something is not ethical simply because the option is available to you. Some options are ethical, some are not.

It is like when you are a child, and you choose a video game to buy. Sometimes you made the wrong choice. Well, you had one choice, you made it, and now you better learn to like it.

And something isn't unethical because you made a choice. So I am asking why you think its unethical.

You can return that game if you don't like it and the store allows it. That would not be unethical. It's not unethical to move house.

 

[BobTheCoward]

And something isn't unethical because you made a choice. So I am asking why you think its unethical.

You can return that game if you don't like it and the store allows it. That would not be unethical. It's not unethical to move house.

You can, but you don't return it. You were stuck with it.

 

[Dave Rogers]

It is like when you are a child, and you choose a video game to buy. Sometimes you made the wrong choice. Well, you had one choice, you made it, and now you better learn to like it.

A better analogy would be that you chose a video game to buy, did some research, found out it was crap, and are now being told that you still have to buy it even though you haven't pressed the "Place Order" button yet.

Dave

 

[Strawberry]

If I did then I think we would see a shift on the deal in the HoC but I am not sure why you don't see a shift on the public opinion. Demographics alone have probably wiped out the majority for Leave.

An opinion poll published today showed 56% now in favour of remain. Do you not find it worrying that after the debacle of the last 2.5 years, 44% of the public still want to leave the EU?

 

[Tolls]

S'alright, after a no-deal Brexit we won't need electricity, we'll be back to rubbing sticks and banging rocks together to produce the latest technological marvel - fire.

Fire?
We'd be so be lucky.

(Flying visit, back to stay, or are you just lost? )

 

[Guybrush Threepwood]

Fire?
We'd be so be lucky.

(Flying visit, back to stay, or are you just lost? )

Shh, it's best to pretend you haven't noticed, if he remembers he's still supposed to be mad with us, he'll be off again.

 

[BobTheCoward]

A better analogy would be that you chose a video game to buy, did some research, found out it was crap, and are now being told that you still have to buy it even though you haven't pressed the "Place Order" button yet.

Dave

A vote seems like "place order."

 

[Pixel42]

A better analogy would be that you chose a video game to buy, did some research, found out it was crap, and are now being told that you still have to buy it even though you haven't pressed the "Place Order" button yet.

Dave

If I tell my computer to reformat my hard drive it will say something like "this will destroy all your files - are you sure you want to do that?" before carrying out my instruction. I can always say "Yes" if I'm OK with that. If the consequences were news to me and it then did it anyway without giving me the opportunity to change my mind I would be extremely annoyed.

 

[BobTheCoward]

If I tell my computer to reformat my hard drive it will say something like "this will destroy all your files - are you sure you want to do that?" before carrying out my instruction. I can always say "Yes" if I'm OK with that. If the consequences were news to me and it then did it anyway without giving me the opportunity to change my mind I would be extremely annoyed.

The are you sure....was the campaign.

 

[Belz...]

You can, but you don't return it. You were stuck with it.

Back in 1989 I bought a SEGA Master System with a game, and returned it after a week, paying the difference and leaving with a SEGA Genesis instead.

I guess the computer store was being unethical.

I notice you dodged my earlier request, but I'm not surprised.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Back in 1989 I bought a SEGA Master System with a game, and returned it after a week, paying the difference and leaving with a SEGA Genesis instead.

I guess the computer store was being unethical.

I notice you dodged my earlier request, but I'm not surprised.

Really? I was never permitted to make returns by my parents.

 

[Belz...]

Really? I was never permitted to make returns by my parents.

Your parents sucked.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Oh, do please tell us how you distinguish the two. And don't tell me you have no opinion on that. You clearly do, since you called changing one's mind unethical.

In this case, a person has made a commitment with their vote. It is generally ethical to honor commitments even when it is non beneficial to yourself.