Breaking News! 9/11 Mastermind confesses

skepticalcriticalguy said:
So what did Bin Bin do then?
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OBL has said that he handpicked the 19, and that he paid for it. He is also responsible as the leader of the group and the one that made the decision to go with the plan that was devised. Did Bush plan all the details of the Iraq invasion, or did he rely on his people to do the details and just make the big decisions?
 
WildCat said:
Heh, turns out you can buy the documentary at Walmart!
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So what you are saying is that Walmart is in on it too. (and since NASA bought their flags for the faked moonlandings there too*... Conspiracy!!!!)





*Actually while they were bought from a local store, it wasn't a Walmart. No one is quite sure where it actually was though as the exact shop doesn't seem to have been recorded.
 
I think Oliver is right. This is huge.

This is not the same as confessing under torture, nor releasing a grainy video.

I'm not sure what the legal status of a "combatant status review hearing" is in the United States, but I think the only thing that could be more significant is if he confessed openly in court.

Consider.

Confession means no trial. Straight to sentencing. Within a year the world's single most dangerous man could be locked away, forever.

He is not just "a member of Al Qaeda". This is the brains of the outfit. This is the guy who came up with the concept of using aircraft as weapons. This is the guy intelligent enough to understand how these sort of attacks impact western society. Look at Bojinka. It wasn't simply a case of "blow heaps of planes up". The timing was very calculated for maximum impact.

This is a huge step closer to securing a conviction.

-Gumboot
 
At the risk of sounding like a CTist...

It's frigging Guantanamo Bay. OF COURSE he was tortured! Just because he didn't confess under torture, doesn't mean that he wasn't tortured to confess.

Also:
According to the transcripts, Sheikh Mohammed admitted responsibility for a series of attacks, including the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Centre in New York and the attempt by the so-called shoe bomber, Richard Reid, to down an American plane.

He also claimed to be behind plots to assassinate the late Pope John Paul II and former US President Bill Clinton.
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It sounds like he's confessing to anything and everything.
Confessions don't hold a lot of weight with me.
 
Axiom_Blade said:
At the risk of sounding like a CTist...

It's frigging Guantanamo Bay. OF COURSE he was tortured! Just because he didn't confess under torture, doesn't mean that he wasn't tortured to confess.

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It sounds like he's confessing to anything and everything.
Confessions don't hold a lot of weight with me.
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This is a reasonable position. He could have been tortured to confess. We do not know. I wonder if the "A to Z" was his wording. That seems a little awkward, coming from Mohammed.
 
Axiom_Blade said:
At the risk of sounding like a CTist...

It's frigging Guantanamo Bay. OF COURSE he was tortured! Just because he didn't confess under torture, doesn't mean that he wasn't tortured to confess.

Also:


It sounds like he's confessing to anything and everything.
Confessions don't hold a lot of weight with me.
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Did al Jazeera torture him into discussing his role in 9/11 and other terrorist plots 6 months prior to his capture?
 
Mince said:
This is a reasonable position. He could have been tortured to confess. We do not know. I wonder if the "A to Z" was his wording. That seems a little awkward, coming from Mohammed.
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It's a translation, is there a popular Arabic expression w/ a similar meaning?
 
WildCat said:
Did al Jazeera torture him into discussing his role in 9/11 and other terrorist plots 6 months prior to his capture?
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No, I don't think so.
But why's everybody get so excited when a terrorist confesses?
They are not, after all, considered to be the most honest and truthful people.
9/11 was a HUGE event. If I were a terrorist, I'd want to take credit for that, too. Especially if the US is bound and determined to have it pinned on me in the first place.

Of course, if the preponderence of other evidence points in his direction, then he's probably guilty...
 
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