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Border Security and Illegal Immigration

T.A.M. said:
so the American Canadian Border...it is all a secret plot so us Canadians can convert the yanks to hockey, beer, and bacon???
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"Convert" us to hockey, beer, and bacon? We already have all three of those things in truckloads.

Hey, wait a minute...
 
Triterope said:
"Convert" us to hockey, beer, and bacon? We already have all three of those things in truckloads.

Hey, wait a minute...
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see...I told you...cross the border...a six pack of REAL BEER awaits you my friend.

TAM:)
 
Architect said:
In my personal experience there appears to be a widespread tendancy amongst many Americans, particularly younger ones, to cut up all of their food and then eat it with just the fork.
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I have been an American all my life - which is longer than I like to think about, but still not as long as I hope to achieve - and have never seen anyone over the age of 5 do this.

And, just out of curiosity, what would you want them to eat with? ("...just the fork.") The salad tongs? The sugar spoon? The soup ladle? The carving knife?

Architect said:
There is a running joke about Deep Fried Mars Bars here in Scotland, but it is widely considered to be an urban myth. Unlike favourite post-pub snacks such as Chips & Cheese, Chips & Curry Sauce, or Chips & Curry Sauce & Cheese.
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I have unfortunately seen with my own eyes, though never tried, deep fried Oreos, deep fried Twinkies, and deep fried dill pickles. I like junk food but that leans a little too far over to the junk side for me.
 
The Security and Prosperity Partnership signed by Canada, Mexico and US in March 2005. The purpose is to speed up border delays thereby encouraging the movement of goods around North America, ensure co operation in the event of a pandemic/outbreak of avian flu,mad cow etc., collaborate on "green" technology...the list of really good things that this proposes can be summed up as "let's share, help each other and get along like members of the world community should"
According to the conspiracy, this is just an attempt by rich elitist Americans (NWO?) to ensure a constant supply of cheap labour (and decent beer?). I must admit the proposal as it stands seems too good to be true, and i think that is why the CT crowd has latched on to it. As a Canadian i think what it proposes is a great idea. A few Americans sitting around the parking lot at Home Depot looking to make a few extra bucks is ok by me.
 
Hokulele said:
Yeah, because you have to eat Canadian bacon with . . .


. . . a knife and fork!
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or you could just pick the whole thing up with the fork and just bite off peices of it (which i have seen many peoople do...)

personally i was raised by an old german lady so know how to use multiple utensils :)

ETA: homer quote

bacon!

canadian bacon!

mexican bacon!

*drools*
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Architect said:
In my personal experience there appears to be a widespread tendancy amongst many Americans, particularly younger ones, to cut up all of their food and then eat it with just the fork. Like small children do. In Europe as a whole, and places such as the Antipodes, this is considered very poor manners indeed.
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Why is this considered bad manners?
 
T.A.M. said:
The knife - fork guy is a "UK"er...lol

TAM:) (the Kanuk)
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Doh, aren't you guys all the same? Commonwealth and all that? :p

Architect said:
In my personal experience there appears to be a widespread tendancy amongst many Americans, particularly younger ones, to cut up all of their food and then eat it with just the fork. Like small children do. In Europe as a whole, and places such as the Antipodes, this is considered very poor manners indeed.
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Elizabeth I said:
I have been an American all my life - which is longer than I like to think about, but still not as long as I hope to achieve - and have never seen anyone over the age of 5 do this.

And, just out of curiosity, what would you want them to eat with? ("...just the fork.") The salad tongs? The sugar spoon? The soup ladle? The carving knife?



I have unfortunately seen with my own eyes, though never tried, deep fried Oreos, deep fried Twinkies, and deep fried dill pickles. I like junk food but that leans a little too far over to the junk side for me.
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I am with Elizabeth on this one. I haven't seen this either above a certain age. But at the end of the day, I wouldn't call it "bad manners", just kind of weird.
 
lol...

I cannot speak for architect, but I think he is referring to holding the utensils through out the meal.

ie. When I eat, I cut off a piece of steak with a knife and fork, then with my knife still in hand, lift the fork, with steak on it, to my mouth and eat it. i then repeat this until my meal is gone.

I think Architect is explaining that he has seen many americans take up the knife and fork, cut up their steak into pieces, then put down the knife, and take up the pieces of now already cut steak, one by one and eat them...knife having already done its entire job before any food is eaten.

TAM:)
 
Triterope said:
"Convert" us to hockey, beer, and bacon? We already have all three of those things in truckloads.

Hey, wait a minute...
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Now find out just how many Canadians there are infil-- er, I mean working, in Hollywood.

3bodyproblem said:
The Security and Prosperity Partnership signed by Canada, Mexico and US in March 2005. The purpose is to speed up border delays thereby encouraging the movement of goods around North America, ensure co operation in the event of a pandemic/outbreak of avian flu,mad cow etc., collaborate on "green" technology...

...As a Canadian i think what it proposes is a great idea.
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Certainly the border restrictions put in place in the wake of 9/11 are causing problems for commerce across the U.S.-Canadian border, which hurts both sides of the border. The number of American tourists coming to Toronto last year was still down quite a bit over that of years past, due in part to the more rigourous requirements for crossing the border. (The rise of the Canadian dollar the last couple of years doesn't help either.)

So some streamlining of the rules for crossing the border would undoubtedly be of benefit to both Canada and the U.S. But of course much depends on the details of any proposed new regulations...
 
T.A.M. said:
lol...

I cannot speak for architect, but I think he is referring to holding the utensils through out the meal.

ie. When I eat, I cut off a piece of steak with a knife and fork, then with my knife still in hand, lift the fork, with steak on it, to my mouth and eat it. i then repeat this until my meal is gone.

I think Architect is explaining that he has seen many americans take up the knife and fork, cut up their steak into pieces, then put down the knife, and take up the pieces of now already cut steak, one by one and eat them...knife having already done its entire job before any food is eaten.

TAM:)
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Ok thanks!
I am an American.
Depending on what I am eating will result in either cutting before eating (pancakes, wafffles, french toast) or cutting while eating.
The cutting while eating usually involves meats.
I am really trying to understand why he would consider that to be bad manners.
Please dont get me wrong I am not trying to debate one versus another but just understanding one world view versus another.
 
I personally don't consider it bad manners...

Did architect say it was bad manners? I can't remember.

I dont even consider it wierd...just a different way of eating.

TAM:)
 
Well he called it poor manners (see my quote of him above).
Again I am not debating this.
He could call it bad manners and it would be ignorant of me to say my "American" way is right.
 
Bobert said:
Well he called it poor manners (see my quote of him above).
Again I am not debating this.
He could call it bad manners and it would be ignorant of me to say my "American" way is right.
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You are correct. he appears to have said that in europe, this is considered poor manners...

oh well...it is a subjective thing..I think.

TAM:)
 
Corsair 115 said:
Now find out just how many Canadians there are infil-- er, I mean working, in Hollywood.

Certainly the border restrictions put in place in the wake of 9/11 are causing problems for commerce across the U.S.-Canadian border, which hurts both sides of the border. The number of American tourists coming to Toronto last year was still down quite a bit over that of years past, due in part to the more rigourous requirements for crossing the border. (The rise of the Canadian dollar the last couple of years doesn't help either.)

So some streamlining of the rules for crossing the border would undoubtedly be of benefit to both Canada and the U.S. But of course much depends on the details of any proposed new regulations...
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preaching to the choir, i live in Windsor. i have seen a 20KM long line of trucks waiting at the border. these trucks sit and idle and burn fuel and block traffic, wreck roads, divert through residential neighbourhoods etc. but this in only one aspect of the proposal. what fiendish plans lay hidden deep with the wording only out masonic overlords know.
 
Bobert said:
Ok thanks!
I am an American.
Depending on what I am eating will result in either cutting before eating (pancakes, wafffles, french toast) or cutting while eating.
The cutting while eating usually involves meats.
I am really trying to understand why he would consider that to be bad manners.
Please dont get me wrong I am not trying to debate one versus another but just understanding one world view versus another.
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It would be bad manners at a formal dinner, but outside of that I have no idea.
 
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