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Moderated Book about Hitchens claims he almost converted

Craig B said:
A very different account of the last words of atheists is given in http://www.thefreepressonline.co.uk/news/1/1830.htm
Famous atheists’ last words before dying. Voltaire: ‘I am abandoned by God and man…I shall go to hell.’ Thomas Paine: 'I would give worlds, if I had them, that the "Age of Reason" had never been published. Oh, God, save me; for I am at the edge of hell alone…’

Thomas Carlyle: I am as good as without hope, a sad old man gazing into the final chasm.’ ... (etc, etc)​
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Voltaire was a deist. He hated organized religion, but he believed in God. Diderot and Hume were known to argue with him on this point often.
 
catsmate said:
You don't need to read a book to understand it's full of lies. Perhaps you should do a spot of reading, I recommend Mortality, Hitchens' final work in which he kept a diary of his final years and never once softened on his detestation of organised religion and his feelings about the imaginary gods.
But hey, that might contradict something you desperately want to believe. :rolleyes:
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Bwhahaha! You serious? The part I like best is that you already made your mind up, and then add that snarky "hey, that might contradict something you desperately want to believe."

Hey, with that level of irony you could corner the *********** steel market.

I don't need to read it to know it contains lies! That is Westbrook baptist level reasoning.
 
16.5 said:
Bwhahaha! You serious? The part I like best is that you already made your mind up, and then add that snarky "hey, that might contradict something you desperately want to believe."

Hey, with that level of irony you could corner the *********** steel market.

I don't need to read it to know it contains lies! That is Westbrook baptist level reasoning.
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So are you arguing that Hitchens is lying in his videos or that they are faked?
 
16.5 said:
or ya know, you can read the *********** book.

:rolleyes:
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The thing is that Hitchens stated in a video that he sees no reason to convert to theism and that if somebody promotes it, it is a lie. If he does actually convert, it is because of weakness because of his illness.

It does actually really matter however. Because somebody converts does not make the argument sound. It is just an argument from authority.

There was a semi famous atheist who converted to deism name Anthony Flew actually. It seems though that he was declining in mental facilities when it occurred.
 
16.5 said:
Wait, it was honestly quoted and LATER shermer withdrew his support?

Seems like *********** shermer is the scumbag here, yes?

Typical nonsense.
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Shermer might be an idiot for not reading the book properly before he endorsed it or he might have been misled but either way it's dishonesty on the part of Taunton to make a claim that Hitchens was somehow secretly Theistic based on supposed private conversations.
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
Shermer might be an idiot for not reading the book properly before he endorsed it or he might have been misled but either way it's dishonesty on the part of Taunton to make a claim that Hitchens was somehow secretly Theistic based on supposed private conversations.
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And even if he did convert secretly he did so while dying and quite likely in a decreased mental capacity.

So point to Christians: when your brain is declining, it makes sense. :thumbsup:
 
Hitch actually predicted this nonsense shortly before he died in an interview with Jeffrey Goldberg

Now might be the time to say that in the event of anyone ever hearing or reading a rumor of such a thing, it would not have been made by me. … No one recognizable as myself would ever make such a ridiculous remark.
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And

This is a very old game that goes back to Thomas Paine and David Hume and Voltaire, in whose company I have no right to be mentioned, and even with Darwin, to circulate outright lies about deathbed conversions.
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Just a reminder, the book does not actually claim St chris of the Sauce Pot actually converted.

Of course, you don't have to read it tho....
 
16.5 said:
Just a reminder, the book does not actually claim St chris of the Sauce Pot actually converted.

Of course, you don't have to read it tho....
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Just a reminder for you: You're the one who believes a badly written children's fairy tale is a history book.
Amen.
 
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