Merged Bobby Menard has "something" coming! / Menard's Newest Scam...

Does this mean Bobby follows all local bylaws, has restaurant inspections by the local health unit (or whatever) and all the appropriate paperwork with the county or region? Food handling certificates if needed? Vendor permits and an HST number? Business licenses and government accounts for payroll tax submission? All personal information required for running a business including SIN numbers?

All permits regarding the use of fertilizers, herbicide and pesticides?

Sure sounds legit to me. We all know how meticulous Bobby is when he runs a grift.
 
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gmanontario said:
Does this mean Bobby follows all local bylaws, has restaurant inspections by the local health unit (or whatever) and all the appropriate paperwork with the county or region? Food handling certificates if needed? Vendor permits and an HST number? Business licenses and government accounts for payroll tax submission? All personal information required for running a business including SIN numbers?

All permits regarding the use of fertilizers, herbicide and pesticides?

Sure sounds legit to me. We all know how meticulous Bobby is when he runs a grift.
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Exactly!

Poor old Bobby's in his usual manic "Look, Daddy, I have wonderful idea" mode.

He really should have found pictures of a better developed plot of land. I mean is this all he and his co-workers (he said "we") have to show for a summer of work?

At this rate he'll have Freeman/Artist Valley up and running by 2030.
 
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Mojo said:
Does “zoned commercial” mean that he is engaging in commerce?
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Yes, He says he's going to build a restaurant and grow food for sale to other restaurants and to a couple of large grocery store chains.

This pitch is left over from some of his earlier look-what-I-am-building tales.
 
Mojo said:
Does “zoned commercial” mean that he is engaging in commerce?
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Each province and sometimes each municipality may have different meanings and restrictions/allowances when a plot is marked for commercial use.

My wife, a real estate law clerk for 40+ years tells me that on most commercial properties there are extra steps to ensure the owner is not doing anything that may be dangerous like manufacturing chemicals without the proper inspection and permissions.

Even the storage of farm equipment and any liquid like gas and oil is heavily restricted and monitored. Most heavily restricted is propane. We had a propane transfer station explode in Toronto, the Sunrise Propane company. I live 45 km away and heard the explosion.

Some municipalities will not let a business owner reside on a commercial property.

Lastly, he appears to be wanting agricultural and commercial. That may not be allowed. Mushroom farming is a complex process that requires very large buildings, too.along with sterilized organic mass and heat controlled areas. Oh yeah lots and lots of straw. And money. No municipality will allow a business without paying all the associated fees.

Another scam to fool the gullible, a pipe dream that will never be successful. As if he cares though as long as the rubes keep giving him beer and weed money.
 
As I've mentioned before in this thread regarding an earlier similar Galt's Gulch scheme, the thing can be done but it's spectacularly difficult.

Here's a contrasting example of a successful one: The Four Quarters Interfaith Sanctury in rural Artemas, PA. It's an alternative spirituality church, a campground and hospitably facility, and a meadery (they make and sell mead). I think they also have a machine shop and limited specialized agriculture. Orren Whiddon organized it and runs it.

Consider what Orren did to make this happen. First, he worked for twelve years in a high-paying technical job in Washington DC while living off the grid (literally, in a log cabin). Having thereby saved enough money and waited for the right market conditions, he then bought the first large parcel of land and opened Four Quarters, continuing to live in poverty to keep the business running through its first decade. That was in addition to having a large number of volunteers and dues-paying regular members helping out. Orren is one of the most organized, dedicated, socially intelligent, and spiritually "centered" people I've ever met. That's what it takes to make a project like that successful.
 
Myriad said:
As I've mentioned before in this thread regarding an earlier similar Galt's Gulch scheme, the thing can be done but it's spectacularly difficult.

Here's a contrasting example of a successful one: The Four Quarters Interfaith Sanctury in rural Artemas, PA. It's an alternative spirituality church, a campground and hospitably facility, and a meadery (they make and sell mead). I think they also have a machine shop and limited specialized agriculture. Orren Whiddon organized it and runs it.

Consider what Orren did to make this happen. First, he worked for twelve years in a high-paying technical job in Washington DC while living off the grid (literally, in a log cabin). Having thereby saved enough money and waited for the right market conditions, he then bought the first large parcel of land and opened Four Quarters, continuing to live in poverty to keep the business running through its first decade. That was in addition to having a large number of volunteers and dues-paying regular members helping out. Orren is one of the most organized, dedicated, socially intelligent, and spiritually "centered" people I've ever met. That's what it takes to make a project like that successful.
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That would be the kind of person to have confidence in. Not a loony loser and liar who has never succeeded at anything including sobriety.

Mead is disgusting though but he is a good person so I can let that slide. :D
 
One thing that strikes me (as a bit of an aside) is how bad Menard is at scamming. The Toronto Star is running a series of investigative articles on the activities of Christopher LaVoie who managed to scam otherwise intelligent people into paying thousands of dollars to appear on a reality show that never actually existed. (Actually he did the same thing twice -- once in Montreal and then in Miami).

Four Days: Part 1 He sold top business minds on a TV show that promised to save the world – and make them famous. They handed over thousands. Then reality set in

If you are going to scam people, this is how its done.

It also worries me that these people have never heard of "due diligence" or Google. Perhaps we are just too trusting of our fellow humans.
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
One thing that strikes me (as a bit of an aside) is how bad Menard is at scamming. The Toronto Star is running a series of investigative articles on the activities of Christopher LaVoie who managed to scam otherwise intelligent people into paying thousands of dollars to appear on a reality show that never actually existed. (Actually he did the same thing twice -- once in Montreal and then in Miami).

Four Days: Part 1 He sold top business minds on a TV show that promised to save the world – and make them famous. They handed over thousands. Then reality set in

If you are going to scam people, this is how its done.

It also worries me that these people have never heard of "due diligence" or Google. Perhaps we are just too trusting of our fellow humans.
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He is so bad that he recycles failed scams. No original thinking at all.
 
As I said above this latest "venture" isn't much more than a list of Bobby's fantasies.

Consistent with his narcissistic personality Bobby seems to think he, overnight, can learn businesses, trades and industries the rest of the world takes decades to master. The result is that he never puts in the time needed to become expert at anything.

He's nearly 60 and he still thinks he's going to wow the world with his (not so) big brain.

But let's get real. Bobby can't do business. He's got no driver's license. He can't fly to a business meeting. He'd have to sneak into Ontario to do business there.

And any company he imagines he's going to sell to or do business with is going to google him once and run for the hills.
 
I find it unbelievable he doesn't use magic words to avoid the various permits and licenses issued by the mean old provincial and feds.
They're not the boss of him!
Well at least there's lots of ******** to feed the mushrooms.
 
What's really happening at Bobby Valley?

Considering Bobby's truth challenged history one has to wonder about this latest tale.

He got barred from playing lawyer in B.C. after lying about his success rate (it was zero) to potential clients.

He stole the names of two companies, Real 3Games & Imaginarium, in an attempt to make it seem he was running the companies.

He pretended he had gotten municipalities in Western Canada to pay for his client's court ordered building renovations. That's been proven to be a lie.

I could go on. . .

So one has to wonder what's really happening at Bobby Valley?


Our friends at Quatloos wonder too: https://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&p=294390#p294390
 
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Bobby's losing it right before our eyes. . .

From his Facebook page:

. . .of course I did not spend the entire summer 8 hours a day clearing a bit of land and cleaning up a homestead.. . .

. . . I got to spend a couple of weeks traveling and camping with a new friend. Been a full summer in that regard too!

. . .I have finally started my novel. . . . . A story of a freedom loving rapscallion in an overly governed dystopian future.

. . .What I am really excited about however is the monthly newspaper we are soon to be publishing. It is called that Canada Freedom Gazette. . . focusing on homesteading, homeschooling, personal freedom, understanding the law, addressing injustice, and sharing the freedom loving perspective. It will be entertaining, informative, empowering and provide a vehicle for serving notice on the governments and as a networking tool for intentional community builders.

As you can imagine there is a lot of work involved, but I am just about there, I just need to assemble a proper Board of Directors to provide the guidance and oversight such a project requires and find a couple more team members. . . . If you are interested in helping by either being a Director or Team member, feel free to contact us. . .
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When Eldon Warman went ‘round the bend he showed a relatively recognizable form of lunacy. He got angry, paranoid and violent.

But what I have called the "Warmanization of Robert Menard" is taking a unique turn.

What may appear to be a manic period of heightened productivity and hyper-activity is more likely a narcissist acting out of a desire to exploit and manipulate others.

Bobby needs admiration, attention and dupes. And at this point nothing else matters.
 
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Does Bobby realize that paper newsletters went out of style years ago? Especially ones you pay for. Printing cost are covered by a buck a copy? No advertisers before starting? Who would be dumb enough to believe he would actually pay? Everything he does is to benefit his bottom line and nobody else's.

I see more failures on the horizon. Maybe he could try a mimeograph. That way you can print and get high while you're doing it.
 
gmanontario said:
Does Bobby realize that paper newsletters went out of style years ago? Especially ones you pay for. Printing cost are covered by a buck a copy? No advertisers before starting? Who would be dumb enough to believe he would actually pay? Everything he does is to benefit his bottom line and nobody else's.

I see more failures on the horizon. Maybe he could try a mimeograph. That way you can print and get high while you're doing it.
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You nailed it.

Bobby's mindlessly following the cumbersome Druther's Magazine model.

Predictably Bobby seems to think that his business plan will be more credible if he creates a cumbersome board of directors and an old style staff structure. Bobby even sets the goal of giving staff "good jobs with competitive and reasonable benefits and pay."

The ever manipulative Bobby thinks this is the sort of stuff that will get over on potential duped investors.

The amazing thing is that he is just as clueless at 58 as he was at 38.
 
I just need to assemble a proper Board of Directors to provide the guidance and oversight such a project requires and find a couple more team members. . . . If you are interested in helping by either being a Director or Team member, feel free to contact us. . .
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Now he's getting the idea but he did not say how much each position would cost. I suggest $25,000 for Director and $10,00o per Team Member. Heavy discounts could be available.

Anything to help. :w2:
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
Now he's getting the idea but he did not say how much each position would cost. I suggest $25,000 for Director and $10,00o per Team Member. Heavy discounts could be available.

Anything to help. :w2:
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Every phony project that Bobby invents has some sort of board or governance which is supposed to pass for due diligence in the minds of the poor dupes he's trying to get over on.

The problem is Bobby doesn't have the knowledge or experience to know how such thinks work in whatever industry or business in which he's pretended to have mastered. One can't tell in this case if Bobby's talking about an editorial or a corporate board. And it seems to have escaped him the boards need rules and by-laws.

But it doesn't make any difference anyway because Bobby's not going to get this newspaper thing done.

You may recall that months ago he fake-launched a gaggle of projects including a film, a series of courses in freeman law, the relaunch of Real 3 Games, a book on the law, a web based interview show and a few other fantasies I can't recall right now.

We might look at the amount of work involved in all these projects and wonder how Bobby thinks he's going to carry all of it off. But doing the work and achieving any goals aren't what Bobby is about.

He's a narcissist. All the phony projects and promises are about maintaining status in his ever shrinking subculture, keeping the adoration of his minions and manipulating any gullibles left who'll buy his BS.
 
arayder said:
Every phony project that Bobby invents has some sort of board or governance which is supposed to pass for due diligence in the minds of the poor dupes he's trying to get over on.

The problem is Bobby doesn't have the knowledge or experience to know how such thinks work in whatever industry or business in which he's pretended to have mastered. One can't tell in this case if Bobby's talking about an editorial or a corporate board. And it seems to have escaped him the boards need rules and by-laws.

But it doesn't make any difference anyway because Bobby's not going to get this newspaper thing done.

You may recall that months ago he fake-launched a gaggle of projects including a film, a series of courses in freeman law, the relaunch of Real 3 Games, a book on the law, a web based interview show and a few other fantasies I can't recall right now.

We might look at the amount of work involved in all these projects and wonder how Bobby thinks he's going to carry all of it off. But doing the work and achieving any goals aren't what Bobby is about.

He's a narcissist. All the phony projects and promises are about maintaining status in his ever shrinking subculture, keeping the adoration of his minions and manipulating any gullibles left who'll buy his BS.
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Additionally, he strikes me as a fabulist similar to the guy I referenced in http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=13906024#post13906024

The difference being that the guy in the Star story is good at making money out of his fantasies.
 
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