Merged Bobby Menard has "something" coming! / Menard's Newest Scam...

Six hundred square foot affordable private homes with shared community amenities. Sure; it's called a trailer park.

On individual one acre lots? That depends. If you want the homes to be in the middles of their respective lots, widely spaced apart, then you have to lay a lot of water and sewer pipes and electric wires and streets and driveways to all of them. That's called a suburb, and it drives the cost higher than apartment rents. (It's generally considered not worth it, unless the individual homes are bigger, which is why "a trailer park but the sites are scattered through the woods instead of close together" is a rarity if it exists at all, even in places where land is cheap.) Cluster the homes instead, such as at centers where eight one-acre wedges meet at a point, and maybe it's possible.

If I were designing from scratch for some combination of economy and sustainability, in a vacuum, I'd question everything. Maybe car access to individual homes isn't needed or even desirable. Maybe each home has a composting toilet but isn't connected to running water (with bathing, laundry, and taps for filling containers centralized in shared hubs, like in a family campground). But in the present day, wherever you are, there are a host of regulations that disallow such compromises for permanent residences. No running water equals uninhabitable. No automobile access, well, be prepared to have to change that if required to allow fair housing for someone with a disability.

The most difficult issue, though, isn't affording amenities. It's balancing freedom with community responsibility in a community with lots of shared stuff. And if you're renting to own, that means someone else owns it in the meantime, and that owner (aka landlord) has to be certain you're not doing anything to the property that will reduce its value or invalidate any of its insurance policies. So be prepared to live under HOA-like rules rather than libertarian autonomy.

Menard says this valley thing has been his dream for 20 years. But, he doesn't seem to have worked out the simplest details.

Instead his pitch was to give potential marks a laundry list of high end suburban amenities. He even went so far as to infer he'd get one lady a car.

It not about the steak, folks. It's about the sizzle!
 
Six hundred square foot affordable private homes with shared community amenities. Sure; it's called a trailer park.

On individual one acre lots? That depends. If you want the homes to be in the middles of their respective lots, widely spaced apart, then you have to lay a lot of water and sewer pipes and electric wires and streets and driveways to all of them. That's called a suburb, and it drives the cost higher than apartment rents. (It's generally considered not worth it, unless the individual homes are bigger, which is why "a trailer park but the sites are scattered through the woods instead of close together" is a rarity if it exists at all, even in places where land is cheap.) Cluster the homes instead, such as at centers where eight one-acre wedges meet at a point, and maybe it's possible.

If I were designing from scratch for some combination of economy and sustainability, in a vacuum, I'd question everything. Maybe car access to individual homes isn't needed or even desirable. Maybe each home has a composting toilet but isn't connected to running water (with bathing, laundry, and taps for filling containers centralized in shared hubs, like in a family campground). But in the present day, wherever you are, there are a host of regulations that disallow such compromises for permanent residences. No running water equals uninhabitable. No automobile access, well, be prepared to have to change that if required to allow fair housing for someone with a disability.

The most difficult issue, though, isn't affording amenities. It's balancing freedom with community responsibility in a community with lots of shared stuff. And if you're renting to own, that means someone else owns it in the meantime, and that owner (aka landlord) has to be certain you're not doing anything to the property that will reduce its value or invalidate any of its insurance policies. So be prepared to live under HOA-like rules rather than libertarian autonomy.
Just hold it right there with your reasoning and sensible concerns.

Remember these are simple people who listen to Loser Bobby. Rules, standards and equality? Phhht. Money? they can just use A4V and all these big corporations will provide any infrastructure when he threatens to sue in the CLC.

Bobby will be the one standing around drinking a Moosehead giving orders I bet. Any and all rules will be made up on the spot as required and ignored by most participants. There's always a percentage who will want to do the bare minimum and let the hard workers make their dream come true.

At least this project will keep his record perfect. :D

Congrats Bobby on finding yet another batch of rubes.
 
It looks like Bobby has taken his Artist Valley 2.0 post down. Or at least he's only letting his minions see it.

The timing fits with his promise to put out a packet on the valley this week.

That way he can spin his tale and not have to worry about his detractors here and over on Quatloos explaining exactly how his scheme makes no sense.
 
It looks like Bobby has taken his Artist Valley 2.0 post down. Or at least he's only letting his minions see it.

The timing fits with his promise to put out a packet on the valley this week.

That way he can spin his tale and not have to worry about his detractors here and over on Quatloos explaining exactly how his scheme makes no sense.
Mission partly accomplished. Only a select few can read it now and the general public can't.

Bobby is quite the sad grifter. Zero imagination and less than zero ability.
 
Not directly bobby related but....

I watched a pile of videos on tiny home villages. There seems to be a common theme to getting close to making it meet laws and safety standards, and the freedoms of a small community of free thinkers and artists.
And then sooner or later half the houses are vacant or weekend rentals because the reality and the dream of tiny home living don't meet in the middle.

Not a surprise Bobby would prey on these types of people.
 
It looks like Bobby has taken his Artist Valley 2.0 post down. Or at least he's only letting his minions see it.

The timing fits with his promise to put out a packet on the valley this week.

That way he can spin his tale and not have to worry about his detractors here and over on Quatloos explaining exactly how his scheme makes no sense.

Mission partly accomplished. Only a select few can read it now and the general public can't.

Bobby is quite the sad grifter. Zero imagination and less than zero ability.

A little birdie also had a talk with the provincial authorities and realtor associations in the maritime provinces.
 
Not directly bobby related but....

I watched a pile of videos on tiny home villages. There seems to be a common theme to getting close to making it meet laws and safety standards, and the freedoms of a small community of free thinkers and artists.
And then sooner or later half the houses are vacant or weekend rentals because the reality and the dream of tiny home living don't meet in the middle.

Not a surprise Bobby would prey on these types of people.

Bobby is not going to do anything to make this project move forward. To his marks he'll try to make it seem like something is happening.

He'll get some attention and maybe some beer and weed money in the form of some upfront money he'll say he needs. But he's working on a less than wealthy subculture. It doesn't help that he's zero for life and has left a trail of burnt rubes in his wake.
 
Bobby is not going to do anything to make this project move forward. To his marks he'll try to make it seem like something is happening.

He'll get some attention and maybe some beer and weed money in the form of some upfront money he'll say he needs. But he's working on a less than wealthy subculture. It doesn't help that he's zero for life and has left a trail of burnt rubes in his wake.

Here he goes again with the same old SOP. Promise everything but fail before reaching the first hurdle, securing the land.

How sad can it be knowing you can't even do the most basic tasks when promoting any project. Due diligence by anyone who he wants to deal with will sink him immediately.

Enjoy your weed and Mooseheads Bobby. I'm hoping to suffer in Majorca at Christmas. Maybe see you there? Oh but those damn feds make you stay in country don't they? Sue them in the CLC and show them who is boss. Buy a box of crayons and make your own passport.
 
Do tell. In private of course.

No need to be private.

The realtors associations and the ministers of municipal affairs and housing in each maritime province got a straightforward explanation of what Bobby is proposing to do.

This is standard operating procedure when it comes to Bobby, whether it be his boasts to use the ACCP in restaurants, his pledge to act as a peace officer or his plans to sell and distribute regulated products.

The affected professional associations and corresponding governmental agencies get a straightforward and honest notice of what he's up to.
 
No need to be private.

The realtors associations and the ministers of municipal affairs and housing in each maritime province got a straightforward explanation of what Bobby is proposing to do.

This is standard operating procedure when it comes to Bobby, whether it be his boasts to use the ACCP in restaurants, his pledge to act as a peace officer or his plans to sell and distribute regulated products.

The affected professional associations and corresponding governmental agencies get a straightforward and honest notice of what he's up to.

They do?

Can we see the list of professional associations and government agencies that are getting this notice? Can we see the text of the notice? Can we be told the identity of the author of this notice?
 
They do?

Can we see the list of professional associations and government agencies that are getting this notice? Can we see the text of the notice? Can we be told the identity of the author of this notice?

I used to post this sort of thing with email addresses obscured. It was done so that Bobby would know the powers that be were aware of his schemes. That's what my last couple of posts are about. He lurks here.

You can scroll back through the thread and/or do a forum search and see the emails to clerks, government officials and associations.

If you do so I ask that you don't repost them.

The problem was that even with the emails addresses obscured Bobby and his minions had enough information to find the people I sent the emails to. Some of them were people Bobby already knew so he didn't have to strain his brain figure out who or where the people were.
 
Robert Menard
November 25 at 3:53 AM ·
Before people knew better they pooped in their water supply.
This created a need to treat and purify their water prior to drinking it.
Otherwise they would be drinking poop.
Drinking poop is not good said the conspiracy theorists. Many were mocked for these beliefs.
Truth was, this was an amazing money making opportunity for some, (and quite harmful for others).
They spent much time and energy working out ways to remove contaminants from their water, and considered that to be normal.
True outside the box thinking is not about developing better purification systems within what is ‘normal’.
It is about realizing that maybe we should not be pooping in the water initially.
Some, especially those who have found a way to profit from pooping in the water or in purifying it, will argue against not pooping in the water. They will argue to maintain the custom, even though it is demonstrably harmful to most, for no other reason than it is custom, and they profit from it, usually at the expense of the larger community.
Those who question the status quo will be labelled by the profiteers as conspiracy theorists, haters of purified water, and desirous of drinking poopy water.
Why is it never mentioned that all those who are labelled as conspiracy theorists are always questioning public policies that harm most but profit a powerful few?

Translation: Bobby and/or one of his clients are having trouble with the local sewage department.
 
Translation: Bobby and/or one of his clients are having trouble with the local sewage department.

Maybe that's what is affecting Bobby. I do find it very weird he labels those who advocated and developed modern water treatments were labelled conspiracy kooks.

No Bobby they were scientists and engineers who knew their stuff and made the world a better place for everyone. No CT kookiness required.
 
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Translation: Bobby and/or one of his clients are having trouble with the local sewage department.

Maybe that's what is affecting Bobby. I do find it very weird he labels those who advocated and developed modern water treatments were labelled conspiracy kooks.

No Bobby they were scientists and engineers who knew their stuff and made the world a better place for everyone. No CT kookiness required.

This happens to Bobby all the time.

A while back while "defending" a couple of his minions who were running a puppy mill and he announced that he had as much right as the provincial government to create animal treatment laws.

The C3PO was all about him claiming to have the authority to make himself and others peace officers.

Anytime he runs into an authority figure who tells him he can't play Marshall Dillon, kill puppies or take a crap anywhere he wants he goes off the rails.
 
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Isn't that sweet. Bobby follows us around like he was our puppy:

Robert Menard
So I am curious, how many people thought this had anything to do with water or sewage, and how many were intelligent enough to realize it was merely an analogy for something far greater?
I know some lack the intellectual capacity to understand nuance and can only think in absolutes..
 
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Bobby needs practice on the use of anologies. That one was terrible.

He should have gone to the usual kook anology using Galileo. He too was a poor boy from a poor family.

Considering his newly found religion he might even think its a parable.

Bobby knows how to sound to his minions like he knows something. But the sad fact is he doesn't really know much about anything. He never mastered the law. He doesn't know how to run a business and he's a terrible inventor.

One may wonder how it is Bobby can be pushing 60 and not really know much.

Narcissists don't learn from their mistakes, that's why we see the C3PO and the ACCP popping up every couple of years. And when ya' got a raging case of the Big N, like Bobby, it's hard to accept the expertise of someone who's an authority on something. . .someone who knows more than you!

That's why Bobby thinks he knows better than all the folks down at the sanitation department.

But why are we surprised? He thinks he knows more than the judges, the cops, the animal control officials and the immunologists.
 
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Regardless, it's a terrible analogy. Everyone, since pre-history, has known not to poop in the water supply. The problem is that over a certain population density, bacteria and parasites from poop that's deliberately kept away from the water supply will still end up in the water supply, due to runoff, groundwater contamination, floods, wildlife vectors, etc.

I'd lay odds that whatever far greater thing this was supposed to be an analogy for follows the same pattern. Some simple solution would work fine if everyone knew one another and cooperated perfectly, but simply doesn't work on the scale of present-day civilization so has been replaced by some more costly and complex and effective (but still imperfect) system.
 
Regardless, it's a terrible analogy. Everyone, since pre-history, has known not to poop in the water supply. The problem is that over a certain population density, bacteria and parasites from poop that's deliberately kept away from the water supply will still end up in the water supply, due to runoff, groundwater contamination, floods, wildlife vectors, etc.

I'd lay odds that whatever far greater thing this was supposed to be an analogy for follows the same pattern. Some simple solution would work fine if everyone knew one another and cooperated perfectly, but simply doesn't work on the scale of present-day civilization so has been replaced by some more costly and complex and effective (but still imperfect) system.

Yeah, camp diseases brought about by almost good enough sanitation practices in the U.S.Civil were deadly!

Menard is pitching his latest version of freeman valley, a sort freeman commune.

It is possible that he has done enough work to get to the "let's dig the latrine" stage and has run afoul of the local authorities. This would be problematic to Bobby's scheme since he's told his minions that the "valley" will be outside the reach of local authorities.

It's more likely that our key board warrior has just been talking about the valley and has run across someone who has warned him that local and provincial governments aren't going to let him build the latrine system he envisions.

Bobby's defense to claim to have expertise in poopology.
 
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