Bjarne on: Dark Energy, only an illusion.

[MRC_Hans]

Hans, with a little luck the Container measurement is finish after 1 month.
http://www.science27.com/forum/stativ.jpg

If the theory I represent is correct ADG must be about relative 400 µgal stronger at the container center (height 325 cm) when it is full, relative to when it is empty.

According to yours religion ADG in the center must be the same both full and empty, right ?

All you show is a scaffold of some kind. How should I know what to predict when you don't show what the experiment is? What container? What is in it? How will you measure it?

So let us know imaging the impossible to happen;
I am right, - would that mean you is more stupid as the tail part of the Mother Cow?
Would you admit that here at the forum?

I have no problem admitting when I am wrong. However, it is more complex than that: Even in the very unlikely event that you are able to show an anomaly in conventional gravity, it will not prove your idea.

As I have said before, yout idea has a lot of problems beside the small thing that your own measurements disprove it.

I have an idea, when my gravity theory is wrong I will always finish a post here at the forum with the words; I am more stupid as a certain tail part of Mother Cow. –If you are wrong you must do it.
Deal?

Bjarne, your sstupidity is nott in having a wrong idea. That happens to most people. Your stupidity is in your refusal to accept fact.

Carefully I will hunt you down, to be sure you will keep your promise.

Personal threats can get you banned, here.

Or do you prefer to bet?
Be serious now?

I have already offered to bet you 1$. If you wanna loose more money, you have to go elsewhere; my morals forbid me to exploit fools.

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

I have an idea, when my gravity theory is wrong I will always finish a post here at the forum with the words; I am more stupid as a certain tail part of Mother Cow. –If you are wrong you must do it.
Deal?
Carefully I will hunt you down, to be sure you will keep your promise.

BTW, isn't this just a wonderful example of Bjarne's sense of proportions?
If he proves the accepted theory of gravity wrong and replaces it with a new one of his own making, he will 'hunt me down' to make sure I admit I'm stupid.

And Bjarne, I'll refuse, just for the pleasure of having a Nobel prize winner 'hunt me down'!

You are suggesting to be able to change 90% of what science has been working with, worldwide, for the last 250 years, and you propose to bicker about it on an internet forum?

Have you no sense of proportions AT ALL?

... I guess not.

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

You are suggesting to be able to change 90% of what science has been working with, worldwide, for the last 250 years

Bla balab blap blap blap nblap blap blap blap bla bla bla bla ++ 87 minu s * % 8465 % * 4687354 % as you said = 4685 % minus + 2 cows, - and change that for the cow tail part. bla bla bla bla bla 95 % or maybne 87 % = 1/4 + 90 % = 90 % of the science in the World the last 8400 years + since Newton added with Einstein.

I mean this is 90 % right ?

Is this what you mean ?

Yes this is almost correct Hans.

Almost....

But I did not say that.

 

[Paul]

Yes this is almost correct Hans.

Almost....

And you propose to do this by not understanding anything, interesting tactic...

 

[MRC_Hans]

Bla balab blap blap blap nblap blap blap blap bla bla bla bla ++ 87 minu s * % 8465 % * 4687354 % as you said = 4685 % minus + 2 cows, - and change that for the cow tail part. bla bla bla bla bla 95 % or maybne 87 % = 1/4 + 90 % = 90 % of the science in the World the last 8400 years + since Newton added with Einstein.

I mean this is 90 % right ?

Is this what you mean ?

Yes this is almost correct Hans.

Almost....

But I did not say that.

Signal to noise ratio: Zero.



Hans

 

[Bjarne]

Signal to noise ratio: Zero.



Hans

So why do you belive it is 90% certian the earth not is round?
Who have told you that ?

 

[Paul]

So why do you belive it is 90% certian the earth not is round?

That depends on what you mean by round.

 

[MRC_Hans]

So why do you belive it is 90% certian the earth not is round?
Who have told you that ?

Error 31: No sensible content detected.

Hans

 

[Rascal_Sage]

Keep moving folks! There is nothing here to see...

Could dark energy be something overlooked?

No.

Paul

Why not?

Until you know what dark energy is, how do you know it's not something you've overlooked?

www.dark-energy.org

 

[Paulhoff]

Could dark energy be something overlooked?



Why not?

Until you know what dark energy is, how do you know it's not something you've overlooked?

www.dark-energy.org

In your wildest dreams, do you think that the scientist in this field don't look into a lot of different areas, that is why they call it Dark Energy and not a name that says what it is.

Paul




Geezzzzz

 

[Paulhoff]

So why do you belive it is 90% certian the earth not is round?
Who have told you that ?

I'm 100% certain the earth isn't round and therefore flat, it is almost a perfect sphere on it's scale.

Paul

 

[Bjarne]

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[Bjarne]

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[Bjarne]

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[Bjarne]

Could dark energy be something overlooked?

Off course

Exactly like the cause to the BigBang is "overlooked"
We have no clue at all.
How could all space be inside at area smaller as a pea?

The ONLY possible explanation begins with special relativity.

Matter with the speed of light will shorten distances (and time) to zero.
Now, - what happens when the whole Universe in a BigCruch moves with the speed of light ?
And what about you ?
What about yours time perspective ?

The speed "c" is POSSIBLE in a BigChunch.
So I was lying, - we can explain the cause of a BigBang.
BUT “we” are afraid; - because it is too much, too extreme for our imagination.
BUT this is how nature is,- and we know it allready
Therefore we are also afraid to explain the real cause of the so called Dark Energy.

Dark Energy is nothing, - but time "slowly "waking up from zero, - and gravity slowly "weakening" from beging HUUUUGGGEEEE
(Because when the Universe moves inwards, - within itself (in a BigChrunch) with the speed of light, - this mean HUUUUUUGGGGGEEEE gravity.)

After a BigBang; - space, - gravity and time (+ the meter stick) is changing back. This is what the Expanding Universe is about...... This is where the holy cow is buried.

The "space-density" of the Universe is inseparable from time, gravity, distances and all that.
Dark Energy only reflects that we are fare from seeing the full picture.
We are simply cheated by an optical illusion, - cheated by time and distance (the meter stick) change...Because we do not understand that not only space is changing "shape"

We will soon understand that gravity / the curvature of space is the exact same as the expanding property of space.
This will slowly contribute to open the door to a larger perspective..

Shortly spoken
The Expanding Universe is ONLY; a gravity field, that is changing, - like the breath of a cow.
This is what the expanding space is about.
In a Big Crunch the exact opposite happens. This is the expiration of the cow..
Already we know how time is connected to gravity, change..
There is nothing more than this except that the meter stick also is affected.

The evidence that also the meter stick is affected is simple ; > the cause of subduction.
It is a stupid joke that; inner convection "should be" the cause of subduction, - many scientist admit this...

http://www.science27.com/english/background_gravity.html

So we have all the evidence we need.
The only problem is that our brains are too small. Much smaller like a cow brain.
We have not enough space inside our heads (except for narrow creeds, craps and holy fanatic brainwashed intolerance) – We cannot simply not comprehend the full truth.
This is very different for a cow brain..
Therefore we should really not underestimate cows.

 

[Paulhoff]

How could all space be inside at area smaller as a pea?

And why couldn't it!

Paul

 

[Reality Check]

Off course

Exactly like the cause to the BigBang is "overlooked"
We have no clue at all.
How could all space be inside at area smaller as a pea?

The ONLY possible explanation begins with special relativity.
...snipped gibhberish....

Your ignorance is showing, Bjarne:
No one overlooks the cause of the Big Bang. There are several theories about the cause of the Big Bang.

At a point the universe was the size of a pea and so space was inside a area smaller as a pea. That is easy to see - measure the expansion of the universe, run it back in time and the size reduces.
It is idiotic to start with special relativity since the theory of gravitation is general relativity.

The rest of the post is just your fanatasies.

 

[Bjarne]

Your ignorance is showing, Bjarne:
No one overlooks the cause of the Big Bang. There are several theories about the cause of the Big Bang.

At a point the universe was the size of a pea and so space was inside a area smaller as a pea. That is easy to see - measure the expansion of the universe, run it back in time and the size reduces.
It is idiotic to start with special relativity since the theory of gravitation is general relativity.

The rest of the post is just your fanatasies.

You did not told us about the possible cause of the Bigbang.
How did all the space got into the pea.....?
So come on RC, - which idiotic reason could have cause that (except SR) ?

 

[Reality Check]

You did not told us about the possible cause of the Bigbang.
How did all the space got into the pea.....?
So come on RC, - which idiotic reason could have cause that (except SR) ?

Even your pet cow should understand that

• The universe got into the pea by expanding from a smaller volume.
• The universe got into the smaller volume by expanding from an even smaller volume.
• etc.

What makes the universe expand is the energy within it. This blog entry is a good explanation: What Makes the Universe Expand?

The expansion of the universe is described by General Relativity.
The idiocy of referring to SR has already been mentioned: SR does not describe expanding space. GR describes expanding space.

The origin of the universe is an ongoing area of research with several theories about it, e.g. instanton theories (quantum cosmology).
However Big Bang theory is a theory of how the existing universe changed (similiar to the fact that evolution is a theory of how existing life changed).

 

[steenkh]

You did not told us about the possible cause of the Bigbang.
How did all the space got into the pea.....?

You want to know how our universe started? One possibility is described here: The Ekpyrotic Universe: Colliding Branes and the Origin of the Hot Big Bang.