Bjarne on: Dark Energy, only an illusion.

[Kuko 4000]

...and especially because I have learn from mother cow always to be open minded...

Good.

 

[Bjarne]

For the container measurement, - 7 measurement station empty, to derterminate the FAG will be executed.
At the height 3,25 and 6,50 meter ADG will be measured full of sand.
The stand will not be removed and use both empty and full, to be sure measurement happens the exact sample place.

 

[Paulhoff]

Just think if he only took 1/6 the effort he does here to do real research what he may be able to do.


Paul



I was just joking.













sorry

 

[MRC_Hans]

You will soon be forced to see how much brainwash creeds can do. .
And that day I guess you and the rest of the sect will accuse me for manipulation.

Spare us your predictions, and deliver the facts.

But, yes I wouldn't put manipulation beneath you, so better have your documentation at hand.

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

http://www.science27.com/forum/stativ.jpg
For the container measurement, - 7 measurement station empty, to derterminate the FAG will be executed.
At the height 3,25 and 6,50 meter ADG will be measured full of sand.
The stand will not be removed and use both empty and full, to be sure measurement happens the exact sample place.

You need to explain the protocol before the experiment.

(Jesh, he can't even spell Danish )

Hans

 

[Zeuzzz]

You talk as if you have proof, please show us.


Paul

Hello paul.

Not to take sides in this argument but I believe that the statement you replied to is not (entirely) false.

The arguments for are outlined quite well in this publication.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/gr-qc/pdf/0702/0702009v8.pdf

See page 15 part 2.5.

Here's a small screen capture for those averse to reading entire linked to publications:

 

[Zeuzzz]

His conclusion cuts succinctly to his main point.

I fear however that the hierarchy of structures earth - solar system - galaxy - cosmos does not stop at
laws found for the solar system but requires a corresponding hierarchy of theories which may be similarly
hard to imagine like Newton’s theory in 1600. Introducing new parameters, data fitting and numerical
simulations will not do the job; rather this seems to be a modern version of the deferrents, excentrics and
equants of the epicycles of Ptolemy. It is not only the complication of our current theories that merits a
warning from history, but also the amount of extrapolation we perform. Though the range of the universe
we know about has increased dramatically, we extrapolate conventional theories of gravity to those scales.
The extrapolation of classicalmechanics over 10 orders of magnitude to the atomic level was a quite childish
attempt, driven by the haughty attitude of the end of the 19th century that the basic laws of physics were
found and only ‘corrections on the 6th decimal place’ (Michelson) were needed. Actually, this was the
age of the first ‘standard model’ of physics. There were just two clouds on the horizon of 19th century
physics: the outcome of the Michelson experiment and the blackbody radiation. Two thunderstorms came
up, relativity and quantum mechanics. The amount of research in cosmology which is done nowadays on
the base of an untested extrapolation over 14 orders of magnitude is a quite remarkable phenomenon.
It could be a good idea to pay attention to the clouds. The wonderful observational data of the present
should not lead us to neglect the theoretical efforts of scientists in the past. Sometimes one can learn
more from the ‘blunders’ of deep thinkers like Einstein, Lord Kelvin, Mach or Sciama than from the latest
theories in fashion.

A sort of anti universality argument.

 

[Paulhoff]

Hello paul.

Not to take sides in this argument but I believe that the statement you replied to is not (entirely) false.

Hello Zeuzzz:

For any serious work on gravity, mainly with very high gravity fields, Newton is not used at all, General Relatively is.

Paul

 

[Bjarne]

Spare us your predictions, and deliver the facts.

Why have nobody (except Mother Cow and a few other) demanded the same objective evidence (the last 300 years),- when it comes to the holy creeds version (inner gravity) you believe in?

Instead the silly brainwash-system have lost billions USD, - of yours and my money, - searching for fantasy particles. (Even though Mother cow in years have try to explain that these does not exist).

If the measurement I soon will do - had been done years ago, - the search for hiigs would certainly never had been executed.
Because if these measurement had been executed years ago we would then have known that the elementary particle-spin is the basic cause of ; - contracted / consuming / absorbing – space , - and the result is what we call matter.

Therefore gravity is not “carried” by strange unknown particles, but by already known particles, simple due to that speed spins these deeper into space.
Therefore we could today have a much better understanding of the nature of gravity (and matter), - and that this is nothing but different space density.

Today almost only cows know this is true, - you do not, - simply because the crap you believe in, have NOT been tested by the scientific methods, - even though it can be done at 1 day.
Therefore you also do not understand that; everything is made of the same “stuff” = >> space.

The search for the hiigs is in fact a scandal, without possible stupid enough parallels.
You should shame you self to be so arrogant, especially the day (coming very soon) you will see WHO was falling through the thin ice, - you or me ?, - not to forget the rest of the world that have been cheated with different kind of holy fanatic creeds, - and many of these innocent people have fully believed it was certain science.

Honestly I don’t know if I shall cry or laugh.

 

[MRC_Hans]

Why have nobody (except Mother Cow and a few other) demanded the same objective evidence (the last 300 years),- when it comes to the holy creeds version (inner gravity) you believe in?

I see you still cling to the illusion that your experiments are in any way first. They are not. We are throughly familiar how gravity behaves inside objects.

Try to think, Bjarne: What would it mean to the pressure inside planets, if gravity did not behave according to convention?

If the measurement I soon will do - had been done years ago, - the search for hiigs would certainly never had been executed.

Do you really, really imagine that they build billion Euro equipment, but fail to do an experiment that an amateur can make?

Because if these measurement had been executed years ago we would then have known that the elementary particle-spin is the basic cause of ; - contracted / consuming / absorbing – space , - and the result is what we call matter.

No.

Bjarne, you DID the simple experiment. It proved you wrong. End of story.

Today almost only cows know this is true, - you do not, - simply because the crap you believe in, have NOT been tested by the scientific methods, - even though it can be done at 1 day.

Bjarne, you DID the simple experiment. It proved you wrong. End of story.

You should shame you self to be so arrogant, especially the day (coming very soon) you will see WHO was falling through the thin ice, - you or me ?,

Bjarne, you DID the simple experiment. It proved you wrong. End of story.


Hans

PS: BTW, if you are setting up an experiment with large amounts of sand, do be careful. That stuff could bury you.

 

[Bjarne]

We are throughly familiar how gravity behaves inside objects

Haleluja Halelujaaaaa
Amen.

Do you really, really imagine that they build billion Euro equipment, but fail to do an experiment that an amateur can make?

That experiment was not necessary this is what I am saying.
Especially when such simple measurement (I now have begun to execute) easy could have been done decades earlier, - If so the hiigs fantasy would not have been possible.

The result of a ridiculous simple measurement experiment will guarantee also make humans much wiser.

Pretty soon, - you too,- will also see it all from a completely difference perspective.
Elementary Particles “carries” gravity, - also when the mass increase due any speed.’
There are no such fantasy particle popping up from the 21 bright blue dimension.
Why not listen to Mother Cow in the first place ?

So long no other particles have been objective discovered, it should be strictly prohibited to call such fantasy for “science”.
But I am afraid not many "scientist" have until recently been able to see any difference between science fiction and reality..

Bjarne, you DID the simple experiment. It proved you wrong. End of story.

How

• Stupid
• Naïve
• Ignorant
• Brainwashed

- would you feel you self on scales from 1 to 10, when the sledge hammer measurement one and for all without any doubt will prove to every human (even the most nuts, senile, and stupid),- that the prediction I have done is correct? > Gravity towards the center of a homogeneous body is stable. Not decreasing.

PS: BTW, if you are setting up an experiment with large amounts of sand, do be careful. That stuff could bury you.

It seems that you haven’t discover that long before meeting you, - I was already receiving lot of advice from the most logical, intelligent, intuitive and open minded creature on this planet.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

It seems that you haven’t discover that long before meeting you, - I was already receiving lot of advice from the most logical, intelligent, intuitive and open minded creature on this planet.

Would this creature be a cow, by any chance?

 

[dafydd]

Pretty soon=lifetime of the universe.

 

[MRC_Hans]

The result of a ridiculous simple measurement experiment will guarantee also make humans much wiser.

You made the experiment. With Domus Vista. It showed you wrong. It did not make you wiser. Ergo, you are not a human.

that the prediction I have done is correct? > Gravity towards the center of a homogeneous body is stable. Not decreasing.

It is decreasing in the Domus Vista, as shown by your own measurements.

It seems that you haven’t discover that long before meeting you, - I was already receiving lot of advice from the most logical, intelligent, intuitive and open minded creature on this planet.

I do agree that your ideas do show all the signs of having originated with cows, could I, however, suggest that you move to the front end of the cows, for at least some improvement? ...The front end of a cow is usually found downwind.

Hans

 

[Rascal_Sage]

(Dark energy) is not an illusion...

Could it be an oversight?

www.dark-energy.org

 

[Paulhoff]

Could it be an oversight?

www.dark-energy.org

No.

Paul

 

[Paul]

could I, however, suggest that you move to the front end of the cows, for at least some improvement? ...The front end of a cow is usually found downwind.

Unfortunately the front end is where all the gas and hot air comes from.

 

[Bjarne]

I do agree that your ideas do show all the signs of having originated with cows, could I, however, suggest that you move to the front end of the cows, for at least some improvement? ...The front end of a cow is usually found downwind.

Hans, with a little luck the Container measurement is finish after 1 month.

If the theory I represent is correct ADG must be about relative 400 µgal stronger at the container center (height 325 cm) when it is full, relative to when it is empty.

According to yours religion ADG in the center must be the same both full and empty, right ?

So let us know imaging the impossible to happen;
I am right, - would that mean you is more stupid as the tail part of the Mother Cow?
Would you admit that here at the forum?

I have an idea, when my gravity theory is wrong I will always finish a post here at the forum with the words; I am more stupid as a certain tail part of Mother Cow. –If you are wrong you must do it.
Deal?
Carefully I will hunt you down, to be sure you will keep your promise.


Or do you prefer to bet?
Be serious now?

RC what about you ?

 

[Reality Check]

Did you pull 400 µgal from your pet cow's bottom

RC what about you ?

Your idea has already been debunked and so you will fail yet again:
Bjarne's "central gravity" is completely debunked!

You give no calculation of the 400 µgal number. Did you pull it out of your pet cow's bottom?

And no indication of the accuracy of the number (again) so:

• If you measure 400.00001 µgal then you will have debunked your idea yet again.
• If you measure 399.99999 µgal then you will have debunked your idea yet again.

You seem to have a truncated cone-shaped container. The ADG will not zero halfway up the container (325 cm). It will be zero at the center of mass of the container. Thus that statement is wrong and shows your ignorance once again.

 

[Reality Check]

I have an idea, when my gravity theory is wrong I will always finish a post here at the forum with the words; I am more stupid as a certain tail part of Mother Cow. –If you are wrong you must do it.

You idea has alredy been debunked: Bjarne's "central gravity" is completely debunked! so you lose the bet alrerady !

So be honest now Bjarne: always finish your posts with "I (Bjarne) am more stupid as a certain tail part of Mother Cow" from now on.