Bjarne on: Dark Energy, only an illusion.

[Bjarne]

FERRARI WANT YOU

Imaging that FERARI has chosen you to test to calculate how mush wind resistance the latest Ferrari is up against.

They have chosen you because you have spent 17 year at the University and because you name is Reality Check.

If you can do the math FERRARI will give you the first of this new kind of sports car completely free + 1 billion dollars cash.

Here is what they wrote:

The Top speed of the car is 999,999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 Km/h

BUT there is a limit by 1000 km/h

Reaching that “limit” (which not is possible) and the car would enter a dimension without distance and without time. Which mean that the speed in fact immediately is zero km/h.

The resistance of the car is so that each time you double the speed the resistance against motion (RAM) will four double and by reaching 1000 km/h the RAM is 100 % ( which mean no motion) (and no unit).

Now here is what Ferrari wants you to do
Find the equation to calculate how much RAM affect the car by different speed.

As you can see the resistance is dramatically increasing while approaching the 1000 km/h

I am soooooo sure you can do it RC. It would be "klaks" for you - right ?

Remember to give me 10 % commission for providing you the contract.

If you not can do it don’t worry, you are still my best friend.

 

[Paulhoff]

BUT there is a limit by 1000 km/h

Reaching that “limit” (which not is possible) and the car would enter a dimension without distance and without time. Which mean that the speed in fact immediately is zero km/h.

Only for its frame of time and speed, daaaaaa, and do you know the reason why? Because I know you don't.

Paul

 

[Bjarne]

Only for its frame of time and speed, daaaaaa, and do you know the reason why? Because I know you don't.

Paul

I don't understand the question.

 

[Paul]

I don't understand the question.

At last we're getting somewhere.

 

[Reality Check]

FERRARI WANT YOU
...

What a totally inane post, Bjarne. Full of your usual gibberish.
Your delusional RAM does not exist!
No motion = no speed. The units of speed are length/time.

In the real universe

the speed of light is measured in lengths per time, e.g. meters per second.

Thus RAM does not exist:
Does Bjarne know basic physics (unit-less quantities cannot be arbitrarily assigned units)
First asked 23 October 2009
The answer continues to be no !

Bjarne, once again: What are the units of measurement for "kinetic resistance"?
​

In the Bjarne universe

the speed of light is not a speed. It is a number.

Thus RAM does not exist:
Bjarne debunks "kinetic resistance" (or RAM)
​

And then there is the fact that RAM has been experimently sown not to exist:
Experimental proof that Bjarne "kinetic resistance" is wrong
2 November 2009

Why particle accelerators disprove Bjarne's impossible "kinetic resistance" (the above post expanded).

 

[Paulhoff]

I don't understand the question.

It is the answer to your question, seems you can't understand what you wrote.

Paul

 

[Bjarne]

Your delusional RAM does not exist!

RAM is a mathematical fact my friend.
Now when you claim that RAM doesn’t exist you can only support that with; Amen.

Why do you not calculate the RAM of the Ferrari, - it could be VERY funny to see that you would end up with the same equation as the one mentioned above, juts without c and M

 

[Paulhoff]

RAM is a mathematical fact my friend.
Now when you claim that RAM doesn’t exist you can only support that with; Amen.

Why do you not calculate the RAM of the Ferrari, - it could be VERY funny to see that you would end up with the same equation as the one mentioned above, juts without c and M

The person does not a theory make.

Paul

 

[Reality Check]

RAM is a mathematical fact my friend.
Now when you claim that RAM doesn’t exist you can only support that with; Amen.

Special realtivity is a mathematical fact my friend.

Your idea of RAM is a delusion based on the ignoranc eof the simplest mathematics, as both you and I have shown.

In the real universe

the speed of light is measured in lengths per time, e.g. meters per second.

Thus RAM does not exist:
Does Bjarne know basic physics (unit-less quantities cannot be arbitrarily assigned units)
First asked 23 October 2009
The answer continues to be no !

Bjarne, once again: What are the units of measurement for "kinetic resistance"?

The stupidity of taking (1-y) as an acceleration when it is a quantity with no units of masurement is obvious.

​

In the Bjarne universe

the speed of light is not a speed. It is a number.

Thus RAM does not exist:
Bjarne debunks "kinetic resistance" (or RAM)
​

And then there is the fact that RAM has been experimently shown not to exist:

Experimental proof that Bjarne "kinetic resistance" is wrong
2 November 2009

Why particle accelerators disprove Bjarne's impossible "kinetic resistance" (the above post expanded).
​

RAM
Why do you not calculate the RAM of the Ferrari, - it could be VERY funny to see that you would end up with the same equation as the one mentioned above, juts without c and M

That is really really dumb, Bjarne.
I do not have to calculate it. You are just saying lets do special realtivity with c = 1000 km/hr.
In fact there are some interesting videos around about what we would see the world as if the speed of light were low, e.g. 100 km/hr, and we start from 0 km/hr and speed up.

And your delusion of RAM, i.e. kinetic resistance, k = (1-y), does not exist:

• Does Bjarne know basic physics (unit-less quantities cannot be arbitrarily assigned units)
  First asked 23 October 2009
  The answer continues to be no !
• Bjarne, once again: What are the units of measurement for "kinetic resistance"?
• Bjarne debunks "kinetic resistance" (or RAM)
  Experimental proof that Bjarne "kinetic resistance" is wrong
  2 November 2009
• Why particle accelerators disprove Bjarne's impossible "kinetic resistance" (the above post expanded).

 

[Pixie of key]

Dont worry, i love you.

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[Bjarne]

Special realtivity is a mathematical fact my friend.

Math is blind.
Math does not distinguish what had cause the RAM

Whether RAM is:

• due to collision with air molecules
• due to friction
• due to motion in the sea
• due to that you is tight to a cow and difficult can move, , ,
• due to resistance moving in space (Special relativity) .

Are in all cases RAM
Are in all cases mathematical facts.

If someone denies any of these Mathematical Facts, without objective / logical fact and hence not able to exactly to show why, it is no longer science, - so simple is that.
And if someone also should believe this creeds is “certain knowledge” (science), > here is my advice: - Read a book dealing with brain wash. Amen.

RAM in space is a mathematical FACT,

In the real universe
the speed of light is measured in lengths per time, e.g. meters per second.

No this is something that happens in your reality. - And YES also in my reality. We both agree to that....

BUT
If anything e.g; a cow moves with “c” - seen from the cows perspective, - there are no :

• No meter
• No second
• No distance
• No time
• No unit

If anything moves with c:

• there are no reality anymore,
• no (physical) Reality Check.
• and no need for Reality Check to check reality., because the cows reality is then GONE.

It is unfortunately clear RC, - that according to the true and full understanding of SR, - I would consider (if I was you) to apply to get 30- 40% of the University fee returned.
Because it doesn’t seems you have not learn what c really is, seen from the perspective of the cow or photon that moves with c .

In the Bjarne universe
the speed of light is not a speed. It is a number.

You cannot mix your reality and the "ultimate reality" at pleasure.

If a cow would move with 200.000 km/s, - all cows in both the Milkyway and Andromeda KNOW that this would NOT affect your reality in New Zealand.

YOU would really see a cow moving that fast. (m/s)

BUT the reality of the cow would be VERY much difference.
Time would tick very sloooooooow and distance would be very small.
If the cow theoretical would move with c, - the cow would still not be part of your reality.
For the cow there would NOT be any speed / time / m/s unit

Did that fact got through at least 20 of the total 147 meter concrete to you, - RC?

The equation we are blap bla bla blap blab lap about is what happens with MATTER when MATTER “should” move with c.

Capito amigo, - it is MATTER that move NOT RC in New Zealand but MATTER that moves.

Did you got the point; > MATTER moves with c. - Not a photon, not RC but > MATTER.

It is; NOT and I repeat NOT and I repeat the last time it is NOT what happen with your reality that counts.

In your reality the speed of that matter would still be 300.000 km/ s – (and the speed of your cow would still be 0,2 m/s)

But this would NOT, -NOT, NOT be the case for MATTER (or a cow) moving with c .

For MATTER (and the cow) there would be – NO UNITS at the “speed” > c.
Did you got that ? - for matter moving with c - there would be NO UNITS.


Hence the point then :
v(meter)² / c(no unit)² = m/s²

Read and understand some Special Relativity RC…..

 

[wollery]

Math is blind.
Math does not distinguish what had cause the RAM

Whether RAM is:

• due to collision with air molecules
• due to friction
• due to motion in the sea
• due to that you is tight to a cow and difficult can move, , ,
• due to resistance moving in space (Special relativity) .

Are in all cases RAM
Are in all cases mathematical facts.

If someone denies any of these Mathematical Facts, without objective / logical fact and hence not able to exactly to show why, it is no longer science, - so simple is that.
And if someone also should believe this creeds is “certain knowledge” (science), > here is my advice: - Read a book dealing with brain wash. Amen.

RAM in space is a mathematical FACT,


No this is something that happens in your reality. - And YES also in my reality. We both agree to that....

BUT
If anything e.g; a cow moves with “c” - seen from the cows perspective, - there are no :

• No meter
• No second
• No distance
• No time
• No unit

If anything moves with c:

• there are no reality anymore,
• no (physical) Reality Check.
• and no need for Reality Check to check reality., because the cows reality is then GONE.

It is unfortunately clear RC, - that according to the true and full understanding of SR, - I would consider (if I was you) to apply to get 30- 40% of the University fee returned.
Because it doesn’t seems you have not learn what c really is, seen from the perspective of the cow or photon that moves with c .


You cannot mix your reality and the "ultimate reality" at pleasure.

If a cow would move with 200.000 km/s, - all cows in both the Milkyway and Andromeda KNOW that this would NOT affect your reality in New Zealand.

YOU would really see a cow moving that fast. (m/s)

BUT the reality of the cow would be VERY much difference.
Time would tick very sloooooooow and distance would be very small.
If the cow theoretical would move with c, - the cow would still not be part of your reality.
For the cow there would NOT be any speed / time / m/s unit

Did that fact got through at least 20 of the total 147 meter concrete to you, - RC?

The equation we are blap bla bla blap blab lap about is what happens with MATTER when MATTER “should” move with c.

Capito amigo, - it is MATTER that move NOT RC in New Zealand but MATTER that moves.

Did you got the point; > MATTER moves with c. - Not a photon, not RC but > MATTER.

It is; NOT and I repeat NOT and I repeat the last time it is NOT what happen with your reality that counts.

In your reality the speed of that matter would still be 300.000 km/ s – (and the speed of your cow would still be 0,2 m/s)

But this would NOT, -NOT, NOT be the case for MATTER (or a cow) moving with c .

For MATTER (and the cow) there would be – NO UNITS at the “speed” > c.
Did you got that ? - for matter moving with c - there would be NO UNITS.


Hence the point then :
v(meter)² / c(no unit)² = m/s²

Read and understand some Special Relativity RC…..

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The units of v are m/s so if c has no units then the units of v²/c² are m²/s².

Cow simple.

 

[Paul]

Try this Bjarne, from the Usenet Physics FAQ :

You cannot go at the speed of light so the question is hypothetical. Hypothetical questions do not have definitive answers. Only massless particles such as photons can go at the speed of light. As a massive object approaches the speed of light the amount of energy needed to accelerate it further increases so that an infinite amount would be needed to reach the speed of light.

Sometimes people persist: What would the world look like in the reference frame of a photon? What does a photon experience? Does space contract to two dimensions at the speed of light? Does time stop for a photon?. . . It is really not possible to make sense of such questions and any attempt to do so is bound to lead to paradoxes. There are no inertial reference frames in which the photon is at rest so it is hopeless to try to imagine what it would be like in one. Photons do not have experiences. There is no sense in saying that time stops when you go at the speed of light. This is not a failing of the theory of relativity. There are no inconsistencies revealed by these questions. They just don't make sense.

 

[Bjarne]

The units of v are m/s so if c has no units then the units of v2/c2 are m2/s2.

Cow simple.

The result of the eqation is m/s
But the result is negative > and hence deceleration, - because after one second some of the speed is lost and hence some of the RAM is lost too, whereby the KE lost in the next second that follows is a little less, and therefore less sped lost , - as you can see a deceleration process.
This too follows as cow logic.

 

[Paulhoff]

Bjarne, if two space ships hit head-on at 200,000 km/s, what speed would the collision speed be.

264,706 km/s

Paul

 

[Reality Check]

Math is blind.
Math does not distinguish what had cause the RAM

Correct:
The incompeteance of Bjarne in making up the equation for "kinetic resistence" (RAM) says that RAM cannot cause anything because it cannot exist:

• Does Bjarne know basic physics (unit-less quantities cannot be arbitrarily assigned units)
  First asked 23 October 2009
  The answer continues to be no !
• Bjarne, once again: What are the units of measurement for "kinetic resistance"?
• Bjarne debunks "kinetic resistance" (or RAM)

Experimental evidence shows that "kinetic resistence" (RAM) does not exist

• Experimental proof that Bjarne "kinetic resistance" is wrong
  2 November 2009
• Why particle accelerators disprove Bjarne's impossible "kinetic resistance" (the above post expanded).

If anything moves with c:

The idiocy of this is obvious , Bjarne: light travels with the speed of c.

Hence the point then :
v(meter)² / c(no unit)² = m/s²

Read and understand some Special Relativity RC…..

Hence the point then

Bjarne debunks "kinetic resistance" (or RAM)
​

Read and understand some simple math Bjarne…..
Read and understand the simple fact that c is defined as a speed, has units of speed (length/time) and so
v(length/time)² / c(length/time)² = NO UNITS

 

[Bjarne]

v(length/time)² / c(length/time)² = NO UNITS
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So you believe that if you was riding a cow with the "speed" c, then time, distance and units would still exist for you and the cow ?
Well this is your religion, I do off accept your religion , - So don’t worry you are still my best friend.
But , - I don’t think many; (even not the most brain washed) "scientist” would share that religion....
Well, - left is just to say may the great Allah protect and guide you and your loved ones, ( or whoever you god may be ).
Amen.

 

[Reality Check]

So you believe that if you was riding a cow with the "speed" c, then time, distance and units would still exist for you and the cow ?

Other than the fact that you and your cow cannot travel at the speed of light - yes.
Light does travel at the speed of light !
We do measure the speed of light !
That speed has the units of length/time !

Time, distance and units always exist.
RAM does not exist:

• Does Bjarne know basic physics (unit-less quantities cannot be arbitrarily assigned units)
  First asked 23 October 2009
  The answer continues to be no !
• Bjarne, once again: What are the units of measurement for "kinetic resistance"?
• Bjarne debunks "kinetic resistance" (or RAM)

Experimental evidence shows that "kinetic resistence" (RAM) does not exist

• Experimental proof that Bjarne "kinetic resistance" is wrong
  2 November 2009
• Why particle accelerators disprove Bjarne's impossible "kinetic resistance" (the above post expanded).

 

[Bjarne]

Other than the fact that you and your cow cannot travel at the speed of light - yes.

Exactly my dear.
The “”speed”” is not a speed, for the one (photon or a hypothetical cow) that move that fast.
But I understand that "c" (for the object that moves so fast) - it a reality beyond yours imagination to belive.

And this “place” is parts of the equation, since it is the propotionals motion of matter MATTER and "c" (100 % full resistance) that count , - this is what this equation is about. .

Therefore "c" is in this case rather a wall as speed. It is a "border" to a dimension without units., and to a "place" where time and distances under no circumstances can exsist.

Yours reality as onlooker is completely irrelevant...........

Light does travel at the speed of light !

Only seen from yours perspective – the equations we discuss doesn’t care about yours reality.

We do measure the speed of light !

We ?
You mean in our reality YES we measure the speed of light + unit = m/s.
But the reality for a cow moving that fast even the meter stick or time doe no longer exist.

The purpose with the equation is to compare v with a impossible “””””speed”””””.

Dear RC, honestly, it is very clear you haven’t understood SR
Tell me have you ever hear about that if a cow moves faster as “c”, - then it will moves backwards in time. ?

Tell me now is time part of: > m/s
So if the cow moves exactly ”c” - time is = zero – right ?
If time is zero also "meter" = zero – right ?
And if time and meter is zero, there are in fact no m/s – (no unit) right ?

Now let say the cow moves c+1 meter.
Now time will "wake up" again, but now the cow would move backwards in time.
I believe 90 % of all 10 years old boys have heard that.
Tell me have you really spent 17 years at the University. ?
Advise:
Try tomorrow and ask the first cow you’ll meet; if time exist seen from the perspective of a a photon.
(1 time muhh = Yes )
(2 time muuuuh = No)
And tell us then all tomorrow what Mother Cow have told you.

That speed has the units of length/time !

For a cow moving 0,2 m/s -. YES
For a cow moving “c” – NO RC, - you are so cow stupid wrong

Time, distance and units always exist.

In you reality RC YES, - but for a cow on the path to “c” both "t" and "m" are gradually stretching/shrinking to zero - until infinity is reach.
Yes it sound completely NUTS, I fully agree, - BUT either you have understood Special relativity – or you have not.
In this case the answer is Muuuhhh Muuhhh

RAM does not exist:

Haleluja.

Experimental proof that Bjarne "kinetic resistance" is wrong

Crap.
Particle in motion is dragging a magnetic field in its wake.
This is energy, who do you think will “pay for this E-bill” ?
Mother Cow has refused 3 times.
Left to pay is ONLY > RAM > deceleration
Intelligent answer is 1 * Muuuh.

A magnetic field + RAM are 2 side of the same count.
Intelligent reply is 1 * Muuuh.

 

[Reality Check]

Exactly my dear.
The “”speed”” is not a speed, for the one (photon or a hypothetical cow) that move that fast.

Quite dumb my dear.
Light moves at the speed of light.

Your reality as onlooker is complety NOT relevant...........

Everyone's reality as onlooker is COMPELETELY relevant.

Only seen from yoursperspective – the equations we discuss doesn’t care about yours reality.

More ignorance from you, Bjarne.
Special relativity is always about observers and what they measure, e.g. time dilation, length contraction, relativistic mass increase, etc.

And the simple fact is that the speed of light is a speed.

We ?

I misspoke - everyone on Earth except you and your pet cow knows that the spede of light is a speed.

The purpose with the equation is to compare v with a impossible “””””speed”””””.

The purpose of the Lorentz factor is to allow that calculation of many quantities including velocity.
Only an idiot would think that the speed of light is impossible. Light travels at it.

Dear RC, honestly, it is very clear you haven’t understood SR
Tell me have you ever hear about that if a cow moves faster as “c”, - then it will moves backwards in time. ?

Dear Bjarne, honestly, it is very clear you haven’t understood SR
Tell me have you ever hear about that if a cow moves faster as “c”, - then it will moves backwards in time. ?

Tell me now is time part of: > m/s
So if the cow moves exactly ”c” - time is = zero – right ?

Wrong

If time is zero also "meter" = zero – right ?

Wrong

And if time and meter is zero, there are in fact no m/s – (no unit) right ?

Wrong. 0/0 is undefined.

...
For a cow moving “c” – NO RC, - you are so cow stupid wrong

NO Bjarne, - you are so cow stupid wrong
RAM does not exist:

• Does Bjarne know basic physics (unit-less quantities cannot be arbitrarily assigned units)
  First asked 23 October 2009
  The answer continues to be no !
• Bjarne, once again: What are the units of measurement for "kinetic resistance"?
• Bjarne debunks "kinetic resistance" (or RAM)

Experimental evidence shows that "kinetic resistence" (RAM) does not exist

• Experimental proof that Bjarne "kinetic resistance" is wrong
  2 November 2009
• Why particle accelerators disprove Bjarne's impossible "kinetic resistance" (the above post expanded).