Bigfoot - The Patterson-Gimlin Film

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Whatever horse this is, it's not Chico.

Nobody said that the horse JM was riding is Chico.

...the rider with binoculars at what looks like Bluff Creek.

I don't think I've seen that scene. Can you post a full image of this rider carrying binoculars?

JM was ticked off because he, too, got cut out of the profits,

Another person ripped off by Patterson. Lu, if Roger showed up at MABRC as an eyewitness then was followed by postings of folks he had screwed and lied to... you might think he is the kind of lowlife that should be banned from the forum.
 
I'm not aware that Patterson ( or Gimlin ) ever went Sasquatch hunting again..

From the Buddy Knox story link earlier:

So, we sat down in the lounge area there and he
(Roger) told me about bigfoot which, uh, in
scientific terms is called sasquatch which is the
same thing as a yeti over there in – where is
that? – Tahiti or someplace in the mountains
over there. (Note: Tibet was obviously the
country he was trying to think of…) And it’s the
same thing as the Abominable Snowman but
over here he’s called bigfoot or sasquatch. And
Roger Patterson was just totally taken with this
thing. And Roger owned a large ranch quite
aways out of town and he says sasquatch is on
his ranch! And I said, “Hah! I got to see this!”
(chuckles) So, one Sunday Roger come rolling
in and he had a little Volkswagen Bug van and
he had this horse Peanut in it. It was a small
horse, but it was in his damn van! And he
brought over, Bob Gimlin, he brought over a
truck with three other horses in it, in this big
truck and we commenced to go look for
sasquatch. We was headed out of Yakima into
the Cascade Mountains….

(edited for brevity)

We climbed on these horses and we were going
to go out there all day and stay – it was
Sunday; we had Sunday off and we didn’t have
to go to work until Monday night…we didn’t
have a matinee on Monday – so, I thought
we’re going to be out here riding these horses
all day Sunday and all night and all day
Monday. So, I just decided to enjoy a good
horse ride, you know, but he (Roger) was hellbent
to catch sasquatch ‘cause he had a gun
there that shot a net thing out on this saddle and
he carried it right behind his saddle. And it shot
a net out there and he was going to capture a
damn sasquatch.
And he showed me before we went, he showed
me this film that you’ve seen a thousand times
on television of this female sasquatch walking
along and stepping over a log and turning
around and looking and you see these breasts
sticking out there, so you know it’s a female,
you know. He took an 8 mm picture of this
thing just when he was out hunting one time
and, uh, he never thought about shooting it
‘cause he didn’t know if it was a human
dressed up like that and he said, “Shooting it
never crossed my mind.” So, he said, “I
grabbed my camera.” He had his camera with
him and he took about 13 to 14 minutes of the
sasquatch walking around this little horse-shoe
curve and it disappeared in the woods, you
know.
(Note: We all know the Patterson-Gimlin
footage is just under a minute long with the
classic 12 stable seconds somewhere in the
middle of it…perhaps Roger was showing a
loop of the footage or Buddy watched it for
what seemed like “13 to 14 minutes.” Doesn’t
matter. What does matter is that he got to
experience the bigfooting world of Roger and
Bob sometime after the film was taken!)
And we rode up to this log and I saw the
sasquatch step over this log like it was a little
stump, and this damn log was this high! (I
assume he’s pointing somewhere chest high
or above.) There was no way in the world I
could hardly even jump over it, you know, so
the sucker had to be 7 or 8 feet tall – had to be!
 
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Roger would not have had a net gun before PGF would he?

So, we done a matinee and a show that
(Saturday) night and the next morning he come
and got me in the hotel and he said, “Load up!
We’re going!” So, we cut out and Roger
Patterson got the horses and we started looking
for sasquatch. And we looked all day long and
we looked on up until it got dark and we
decided to set up a camp site. So, and I said,
“What are we gonna eat?” and Jerry said, “Oh,
Roger brought some food, yeah.” And he
brought out this little sack of trail nuts and stuff
and raisins and you know, like not even a hand
full – oh, just about a hand full – for all of us to
eat! This was our supper. So, I lived on trail
nuts and stuff for two days, you know. And the
next morning we crawled out (from under our
blankets) at first day light and Roger’s out
there and loaded up, ready to go. And he had
the horses already saddled and everything. We
just slept on the ground, you know. I just slept
in my clothes and folded up one of those little
rolling things behind the saddle and used it as a
pillow. And it was warm, so we weren’t cold or
nothing. And we hunted until about 5 or 6 the
next afternoon – never saw prints, never got a
smell. He said they smell horrible! And he said
once we smell that smell, we’ll follow the
smell and see if we can find him.
Well, we never got a smell of the smell and we
never saw any footprints or nothing like that ,
but Roger showed me where he found the other
footprints and you could tell – there was plaster
all over the ground and you could tell he had
made something plaster there. And , uh, so I
just took it that he was telling the truth and you
know, I didn’t think he was a liar or nothing…
 
Was Roger Patterson affiliated professionally or as a friend with Ivan Marx?

This video is by Marx, and I just wonder if RP helped with the direction. The beast even has a worthless look back at the camera, remeniscent of the PGF turn and look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs7xmVBOftQ
 
A cap from that youtube video. This fooled a bigfoot expert, btw.

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I stand corrected...


He certainly didn't didn't go looking where he knew for sure there ought to be one ...
Actually he did. http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/bossburg.htm

It's a long article but RP's name comes up about a third of the way through it.

I don't think the article adds anything to either side of the argument other than showing that bigfoot hunting has always contained elements of infighting and huckstering.

This article also contains a description of the Marx film fiasco that I think LT was talking about. I didn't see any reference to RP being involved in that at all but I just skimmed through it. It looks like John Green was the fooled expert.
 
Nobody said that the horse JM was riding is Chico.
Joke, son.
I don't think I've seen that scene. Can you post a full image of this rider carrying binoculars?
Why not buy your own copy of BMB so you can study it at your leisure? I'm back to not having time to resize all these.

Another person ripped off by Patterson. Lu, if Roger showed up at MABRC as an eyewitness then was followed by postings of folks he had screwed and lied to... you might think he is the kind of lowlife that should be banned from the forum.
I would expect all the dirty laundry would come out, particularly from the jealous and slightly deranged. We hear from some of them with no evidence involved. If someone comes up with footage that good we'd be a lot more concerned about chain of command, I think, than how much money they might owe.

Have you considered DeAtley might have had something to do with tying up money Roger owed and disappointing people who thought they would get a cut?

I have a friend who could con you out of your underwear and make you glad he did. When it's payback time he's too busy or too broke, but he's wildly talented and seems to get though life on charm and good intentions. He's led a much more interesting life than most.

If Roger had been a workaday stiff without a dream and a rented camera, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

According to Merritt, he was obsessed.

These arguments are of the "Darwin was a racist" variety. Dahinden told Long it wouldn't matter if Roger was a pedophile: "Look at the %$#*&#$&^ film!" I've said much the same about Darwin; the theory stands.

Binoculars below:
 

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Whaa? You know that Gimlin won't do interviews.

Who was doing the show? Serious question; answer it, please.

Gimlin has answered questions at conventions and he gave Green an interview, didn't he? What about right after the filming? He confirmed a detail for Chris Murphy not too long ago.

Not wanting to do an interview for some of these blog radio shows is perfectly understandable, especially after mending fences all day. He's had major heart surgery. He may not only be sick of it, he may be tired.
 
That image appears to show Roger riding on Peanuts. It's a match for the horse including the coiled rope and canteen. Patterson wore light-colored chaps when riding, so that is probably him on his own horse.

What makes you think this scene was filmed in Bluff Creek?
 
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Was Roger Patterson affiliated professionally or as a friend with Ivan Marx?

This video is by Marx, and I just wonder if RP helped with the direction. The beast even has a worthless look back at the camera, remeniscent of the PGF turn and look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs7xmVBOftQ


http://www.bigfootencounters.com/hoaxes/marx_footage.htm

Marx was on the Slick PNW expedition and Patterson went to Bossburg, as did Byrne, Green and Dahinden..............

http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/bossburg.htm

Patty was bigger than Peggy.
 
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That image appears to show Roger riding on Peanuts. It's a match for the horse including the coiled rope and canteen. Patterson wore light-colored chaps when riding, so that is probably him on his own horse.

What makes you think this scene was filmed in Bluff Creek?

Check out the background and compare to shots of Roger leading the white packhorse. The clip is from BMB and precedes the segment with Dr. Grover Krantz. There's no commentary on who it is, but the chaps are familiar.

The head is from the same segment.
 
Looks like grass. There seems to be a creek here, but I have no idea which one.
 

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