Bigfoot - The Patterson-Gimlin Film

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Crowlogic said:
I hope that Flying Suacer Avitar you have is just poking fun at those poor souls that believe in THAT nonsense. By that clown in Scandanavia no less. Maybe use it to cook up some of that spam and eggs Sgt Shultz has been kind enough to furnish us with!
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Crowlogic, considering the above comment on Starthinker's avatar maybe you can provide us with an explanation of how belief in bigfoot is based on better quality evidence than UFO's and alien visitation.
 
LTC8K6 said:
http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/fremont-lion/

Just waiting for that Bigfoot-F350 collision...
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Let's trot out some bigfoot myth perpetuator's doofus excuses for no bigfoot roadkill.

From the BFRO:

How come there's no bigfoot roadkill?


The short answer: Bigfoots are extremely rare and extremely cautious--so much so that the odds of a roadkill have not caught up with any yet.

The Roadkill Potential

Only a very small fraction of the thousands of credible sighting reports describe near-misses with vehicles. No substantiated reports describe a collision with a bigfoot.

Every other large mammal in North America is far more abundant than bigfoots. Hundreds of near-misses happen with other animals before an animal is hit. Some species are hit more often than others. Deer often get "dazzled in the headlights" and stand paralyzed in the paths of trucks. Bigfoots seem to be far more intelligent than that.

Those who have gotten closest to bigfoots say an analogy of "intelligent ape" is not as accurate as "hair-covered aboriginal man." Around humans their typical behavior is to flee or hide. They try to stay out of view or at least in the shadows when near people or moving vehicles.

Many roadside sightings describe them hanging back in the shadows of a tree line and waiting for a vehicle to pass before crossing the road. In almost all of those sightings a passenger spotted the figure first. Because of that, it's reasonable to extrapolate that a whole lot more lone drivers never notice when this behavior occurs, because a driver's attention is usually on the road ahead.

Waiting for a vehicle to pass before stepping out of the shadows to cross, merely demonstrates the same pattern of cautious behavior they exhibit in other encounters with humans.
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Yes, that's right. They're very rare, you see. They do however live all across the continent maintaining viable breeding populations, though. For the bargain price of $300 you can join one of our expeditions which have made contact with sasquatches nearly every time all across the continent. Look for an upcoming expedition near to you.

Also, they're very cautious except for when they're rummaging through your belongings, throwing things at you, charging at you, abducting you, trying to mate with you, talking to you, harrassing you, etc.
 
Four hundred plus years of European-derived inhabitance and exploration of North America has not produced any confirmatory evidence of this Bigfoot creature. We don't have bones, a body or even DNA. The native tribes that existed here for thousands of years prior don't have any retained or discovered Bigfoot biological artifacts to present. This kind of historical confirmatory bankruptcy is quite reasonably considered evidence for absence. Forget the foot and buttprints. We should have had some Bigfoot meat (dead or alive) by now. This thing has got to produce roadkill, get shot intentionally/accidentally by a hunter, get captured or somehow trapped (Bigfoot never falls in wells) or be found dead. The lack of that stuff starts to add up over time. Rational people would start to doubt that this huge creature could evade confirmation by way of skill (behavior) or chance. Smart people are going to wonder why we have not yet found this creature (in a comprehensive taxonomic way) after all this time and circumstance. Any person who has ever set foot in the PNW woods can simply happen upon a dead Bigfoot. But yet there is nothing. Nothing like a real animal ever. Does this beast not succumb to the same fates as any other primate?

Bigfoot is as elusive as any common ghost.
 
William Parcher said:
... and because I don't worry about the Bigfoot question, and tag along not knowing about Bigfoot and am uniformed about Bigfoot... I decided to create an internet radio show called "Let's Talk Bigfoot".

Maybe listening to the various words of different people will get us all to some sort of proof. Maybe not. The important thing is to just talk about Bigfoot because this is what we love and are addicted to. Our radio show is not set up to determine if Bigfoot is a myth. It's designed to give the microphone to those that want to talk. Talking about stuff is an intrinsically important thing for mortal beings to do that are eventually going to die and know it. You can talk about Bigfoot here. We understand.

Maybe Bigfoot is not a creature at all. Instead it's an abstract and unconfirmable entity that gives people strength and a reason to wake up each day and make some sort of soapbox stand against the evil skeptics and know-it-alls that want to take away my tomorrows. If my inner fortitude allows me to argue for Bigfoot today, then I can buy myself a tomorrow on nothing other than the need to rebut any rebuttals. Don't you see that the Bigfoot idea gives me a reason to stay alive and fight off the horrifying and very real blackness of a life that fizzles out from depression and social isolation. Bigfoot is my God. Is it yours too? Let's Talk Bigfoot.
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Where did this quote come from? It looks like something Melissa said but I'd like to know where it was posted. Can you give me the url for that post please?

The Let's Talk Bigfoot show was a group endeavor and the reasons stated above have nothing to do with why I decided to do the show. What I've bolded doesn't even sound like anything I'd think Melissa would ever say.

I'm in NO way addicted to bigfoot. It is a mild interest for me, certainly no addiction. In my mind our show is absolutely geared to talk about whether bigfoot is a myth or not. I for one am not in the believer camp so I want to talk to skeptics as often as "believers."
 
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May we leave the Let's Talk Bigfoot show out of the mix when taking Melissa to task? The show is an endeavor by Melissa, myself, and the producers, Bob and Kathy Strain. While it has by a wide margin been the stage for bigfoot proponents, I've strived to find skeptics willing to do the show with us. I welcome anyone from this forum to come on the show as a guest. It is not my intention as a host for the show to be only a venue for proponents but balanced in viewpoints. If anyone (William) would like to do the show please e.mail me at teresamhall @ starband.net. I am not a "pattycake" and the show is not geared toward proponents only. I guess what I'm trying to say is could we leave the show out of the arguments with Melissa since she's not the only person on the show?

I am quite serious about my offer to interview the skeptical viewpoint of this forum. To date Benjamin Radford is the only skeptic who has agreed to appear. I think that's unfortunate with so many knowledgeable people on this forum who can speak to the other side of the bigfoot issue.
 
No, that doesn't sound like anything I would ever say, have said or will ever say.

Looks to me like William Parcher is practicing his trolling skills, and poorly at that.

If this is what Critical thinking is - I am happy with who I am, and how I treat people. If this kind of thing is condoned by this board, I am really shocked. I re-read the posting guidelines, and it seems all opinions here are allowed. William Parcher seems to think only his opinion is allowed - say something he doesn't agree with, and he attacks you - personally.. Now thats a good critical thinker. Cant win your side of the discussion - hey, no problem make up lies and post them about your opponent, yeah thats the right thing to do.

If this kind of thing is allowed - then I think its time to change the guidelines of this website. Continue with your trolling William Parcher - your making me look better every time you post these lies and general BS. :)
 
I'll make this quick, then on with your regular programming. Does anyone here have an active account with JSTOR?

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William Parcher seems to think only his opinion is allowed - say something he doesn't agree with, and he attacks you - personally.. Now thats a good critical thinker. Cant win your side of the discussion - hey, no problem make up lies and post them about your opponent, yeah thats the right thing to do.
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Do you have the same evidence for those claims as you have for bigfoot?

I hope you have some better evidence...I'd hate to think you are a liar.
 
kitakaze said:
RCMP capture Manitoba bigfoot hoaxer.
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Poor frustrated researcher is my guess.... after a few years .....Ok..make that weeks of exhaustive fieldwork the poor chap was unable to convince science of what he and the rest of Bigfeet Nation have known for quite some time now...that Hairy Bipeds of Unusual Size roam freely and without a care in the world across the unexplored hinterlands of the North American Plain and have done so for nigh these many years constantly eluding capture (whether on film or otherwise) repeatedly evading hunters, continually sidestepping any calamity that may leave a body and leaving nothing more than prints of their feet...hands....and...arse's.

Ghostly Ape Men with the uncanny ability to blur cameras at critical moments,who apparently have invisible poo and no discernible DNA. Mysterious creatures who never shed a hair and who never show themselves to anyone other than to those who couldn't zoom in on the Lincoln Monument without making him look like a Blobsquatch if their lives and the lives of their family depended on it.

Creatures of mystery who's undocumented existence just needs a little embellishing to convince the huddled unwashed masses that they are real.

So he did what needed doing by Criminy...he procured a cheap Mighty Joe Young outfit at the five and dime and schlepped around the campgrounds and provincial parks of the great white north inspiring others to look closer at the forest....not to mention to look deeper into their hearts to find the ability to truly...Bleev that Bigfeetsus is real.


LOL
 
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No, no, no, Madness. Your sly Freeman reference is all wrong. We should be saying 'he's lucky he didn't get shot' and we should keep saying that until someone asks us why no bigfeet have been shot. Then we should do a total 180 and talk about stunned hunters or insufficient calibre or you know, whatever sounds good.
 
kitakaze said:
RCMP capture Manitoba bigfoot hoaxer.
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Was the guy shot?
You know, people wearing gorilla suits out there in the woods are supposed to get shot...

Mad Hom said:
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Ghostly Ape Men with the uncanny ability to blur cameras at critical moments,who apparently have invisible poo and no discernible DNA. Mysterious creatures who never shed a hair and who never show themselves to anyone other than to those who couldn't zoom in on the Lincoln Monument without making him look like a Blobsquatch if their lives and the lives of their family depended on it.
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Uhm... Not exactly.
-You know, cameras are hard to use, the sightings are too short and you've gotta have a camera ready on your hands, autofocus is a pain the woods, one get nervous when suddenly seeing a bigfoot and messes the shot, cameras are heavy, most people do not use cameras... Have you seen the bigfoot cell phone movie? It was made by a person from the First Nations! That's pedigree, isn't it?
- There are alleged bigfoot pieces of poo! And with unusual parasites, said to be from Asia. But its inconclusive when it comes to say it surely came from a bigfoot butt...
- There are DNA samples claimed to be from bigfeet and bigfeet-like critters, and they are labelled as unidentified DNA. But actually the samples either are too degraded to allow anything other than to say "it came from a mammal" or were contaminated by human DNA...
- There are alleged bigfeet hair samples. But they either look quite like human hair samples or are said to be contaminated by human hairs; and no, the folicles are not there to help us with the above item...

In sum...

WB, Mad Hom, but nothing has changed when it comes to evidence. You would have had some fun with some bigfoot trolls that were around for a while...
 
Dammit Kitakaze is faster than me at typing!
Second time, first was for nearly a year, this time, some minutes.
I'm getting closer at a stunning rate!
 
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