bigfoot is real I have the proof

That's the natural reaction, to think it's just creekfreak using another handle but seriously it's not. Different photo, Bullet Maker is from Oklahoma and freak is from Florida, and both Bullet Maker and freak were members of the MABRC. Freak did try to use a sock puppet after he got the boot from there but it wasn't Bullet Maker. Also that thread at the BFF was started on March 6th, 2006 (Bullet Maker showed up on the 22nd of the same month) and freak's Bungle in the Jnugle thread started on July 12th, 2006. It really is a crazy coincidence.
If it's not Creek, then I'd say he's dropped the ball.
 
Originally Posted by Creekfreak
just a few weeks ago i was siting here and something hit my window with a thud I thought it was a bird hiting the window , But when I went out side to look there was a dead mole laying below my window and it was wet . Its been my experience that moles can not fling there selfs 6 feet high and kill themselfs explane that !!

What if it was an owl or hawk carrying a dead mole, and the owl hit the window dropping the mole?
 
What if it was an owl or hawk carrying a dead mole, and the owl hit the window dropping the mole?
For that matter, what proof is there that the two events (ie. something hitting the window, and the deal mole) are related?

Was the window wet? Had you (Creek) looked outside before hand and not seen a deal mole lying on the ground near the window? About how long do you think it was dead (ie. rigor mortis can set in anywhere from say 10 min to 2 hrs)…was it stiff as a board, or limp?

In a rural setting, it is not at all uncommon to find dead critters outside.

I’d suggest, while you (Creek) heard a thud, it was completely unrelated to finding the dead mole.
 
I’d suggest, while you (Creek) heard a thud, it was completely unrelated to finding the dead mole.

That was my first thought. Bird hits the window, flies off, leaving no evidence. You look outside, and notice a mole left by a cat that you'd never notice otherwise.
 
The guy was trying to sell a faked pic. His story kept changing. Too many red flags.

Why should we bother trying to find a reasonable explanation for anything else he claims to have happened?
 
The guy was trying to sell a faked pic. His story kept changing. Too many red flags.

Id pay. I havent had a good laugh like that in years.

Looking through photo after photo of trees and helicopters, and suddenly, voila! Photoshopped BF staring at me :) All that buildup...... for *that*.

I hate it when I burst out laughing like that at work - people think Im crazy.
 
Id pay. I havent had a good laugh like that in years.

Looking through photo after photo of trees and helicopters, and suddenly, voila! Photoshopped BF staring at me :) All that buildup...... for *that*.

I hate it when I burst out laughing like that at work - people think Im crazy.
Hopefully you were not drinking hot coffee or tea at the time...yikes :)

The sad part out of all that, is just how 100% obvious the photoshoping was, as compared to Creeks "it is not photoshoped" claims. I mean...really the only thing missing was the yellow :) somplace.
 
No guys I am not bullet maker but I do know him from the mabrc .
He has even invited me to his place dont know if the offer still stands but I would hope it does .
Lock I dont know for sure a bigfoot threw the mole at my window becouse I did not see what did it .
It was less then 5 min after it hit the window that I found it and it was limp and warm .
I am not going to sit here and say it was a bigfoot that did it I cant say it was so there is no reason to try to .
As for dead animals being found in the woods you need to get out more offen .
It is very rare to find a small animal that is still intact being that it was a fresh kill makes it more rare .
Nothing dead lasts very long around here when night falls the clean up crew comes through here they eat everything I mean everything !
As for the bacon yes it gets eaten but there are other creatures that like bacon too .
And yes I do set the trail cam up when I put it out but I have yet to get a pick of what eats it .
Ive tryed and tryed but this cam will not get a good pick at night Ive added ir light and white light to help the flash but still nothing .
It will take a pick but its allways pitch black .
You get what you pay for a 60 dollor trail cam is only going to be as good as a 60 dollor trail cam .
But there is one thing good about the cheep ones they will work if you have enough of them .
If you had say 100 of them set out to cover say 50 acres of an area you know they travel there is no dout in my mind you could get some day time shots .
The chances of geting a shot with just one cam is just to slim a camara trap needs to be set up so no matter what direction they are going they will trip a cam .
It can be done very easy so lock come off that card and order us up 100 or more so we can prove this thing !
 
Lock I dont know for sure a bigfoot threw the mole at my window becouse I did not see what did it. It was less then 5 min after it hit the window that I found it and it was limp and warm. I am not going to sit here and say it was a bigfoot that did it I cant say it was so there is no reason to try to.

As for the bacon yes it gets eaten but there are other creatures that like bacon too .
At least you allow for/accept there are other possibilities that explain both situations - I'd call that progress.
 
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I havent got the film developed of the woodpecker yet that costs money and its not high on my list at the moment Ive got biger fish to fry .
I do have a 35 mm film cam I used for the bird pics but I want a cam that is better then that an 8 mp should do the job just fine .
No they cant render a digital cam useless Ive allready proven that with my last picture .
And of course its easyer to prossess the pictures with a digital cam and your not out any money if you get a bad shot you just deleate it .
No books yet ether I am flying by the seat of my pants and will keep going this way you know what they say the best way to learn is to get your hands dirty .
I am just trying to get there picture so I really dont need any imformation a book can give me .
If I do find something that needs to be handled carefully I know enough not to contaminate the specimen .
Just the other day there was a rather large turd in my drive way the real kind not an invisable one as real as they get !
I went back to the house to get a bag to put it in and by the time I got back it was gone I couldent figure that one out .
But what I am thinking is maybe a young one did it and its mother probly picked it up before I got back or something ate it those damm possums will eat anything .

Hist step away from the bong your hiting it a little to hard these days .

So you claim to have a picture of a woodpecker nobody has seen, and you won't spend the $5 or $10 to get the 35mm film developed because you have "biger [sic] fish to fry"?

Your other picture only proved that someone's photoshop skills are lacking, as EVERYONE that has seen your supposed "original" has told you flat out it has been altered. Disagree, have your own experts, etc. that is fine -> produce the evidence to support your obviously false claim. Who are these experts, names, e-mails, invite them here, produce their analysis reports, etc.

You continue to resist getting a FREE book from your library to help in terms of your collection methods. You do, or course, realize your "techniques" (and I use that term loosely) totally VOID, INVALIDATE, RENDER USELESS ANY evidence you might come up with right?

Being blunt, you are wasting everyone's time with your continued unsupported (and obviously false) claims wrt your fabled "picture", and your total lack of any process in terms of your "research" (again, I use that term loosely). In the end, your conduct only continues to erode any credibility you may have/establish (in my opinion).
 
I do have a 35 mm film cam I used for the bird pics but I want a cam that is better then that an 8 mp should do the job just fine.


With equal optics, a film camera would be every bit as fine for your purposes as an 8MP digital camera. The price of a new 8MP camera suitable for this purpose could buy you a lot of film processing for the camera you already have.

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If I do find something that needs to be handled carefully I know enough not to contaminate the specimen .


You could start by not contaminating photographic evidence with dodgy Photoshop hack jobs. Even if (if, if, if) there had been something in your original photo, you shot your own credibility...what little there was...dead between the eyes with your obvious manipulation.
 
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Whats so damm hard about puting crap in a bag ?
Its allready on the ground as long as I dont touch it why would I waist my time with a book that is only going to tell me not to touch it ?
Sure it would be vold to the ones that would deny no matter how I collected it I guess the only way is to train a bigfoot to crap in a bag for you and film the bigoot in the act of doing it of course with a high definition camcorder .
I could care less about my credibility at this point Lock I lost that a long time ago all I can do is keep doing what I am doing .

Yes thats about the size of it lock a picture of a woodpecker doesent mean nothing to me I was excited when I saw it but after that I never gave it a thought untell you brought it up again. I really dont care about proveing it to anyone they can have it if they want it I am done trying to prove the creatures that are here are real . From now on any knowlage I gain I will be keeping under my hat if people are going to be stupid then they are cut off from what I know .
 
Creek,
This is the same argument you tried before, in a different thread, Here is what will happen in this thread if it is allowed to continue.

1. You will claim Bigfoot exists
2. Someone will demand proof
3. You will demand money for the proof
4. No one will buy into your scheme
5. You will put up something that you consider proof. i.e. a bad picture of a group of tree branches.
6. It will be utterly debunked
7. The thread will become moderated because you will lash out with angry denials and accusations.

This is the first post, of Creekfreak's "Bigfoot is real, I have proof" Thread.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3073767&postcount=1

Creekfreak said:
First let me say I have not joined this site to get into any arguments about what is real or what is not . I am here to share what has happened to myself not others . I will not try and convince any disbeleavers my experiences are real I dont have time to deal with negative thinking . I will be glad to answer any questions about my research that you have . Ok here we go my real name is Gary carlsten I am a fulltime bigfoot field researcher . My research began when I had a face to face encounter with a bigfoot creature less then 15 ft away in broad daylight about 4 years ago . I walked up on the creature that was going through my trash I kept in an area shelded from the rest of the yard by some brush . I did not see him at first becouse of the brush but I heard cans clanging together I stoped where I was when I heard the cans . My first thought was it must be a dog or racoon in my trash and did not think nothing of chasing something small away if it was . But to my surprize it was not a dog but a very large creature squating down diging through my trash . He did not hear me walk up becouse of the noise the cans where makeing . At first I did not realize how big it was becouse it was squating . Becouse the hair was long it looked to me at first to be a man wearing a cape or poncho . So I said who are you he looked up at me with huge blood shot eyes and gasped then he jumped up . This was when I realized how big he was my first thoughts where it was a big black man becouse his skin was black but then I realized he was covered from head to toe with reddish brown hair and was not wearing clothes . Becouse of his size 8 feet tall and his build I knew this was no man he was just to big to be a man . He had massive forearms that where much longer then a mans . But he had very human expressions on his face and the same mussel groups in his upper torso as a human man . His stance was bent leged and had very big uper legs . He was not fat but very fit every move he made there was mussel flex . His face was flat like a human the nose was flat like an ape or monkey . the head was sloped up from his brow that looked to be like the brow of a cave man . His eyes where very big and blood shot it did not look like he liked the bright sun . After he jumped up he looked me up and down then turned and took a few steps away . At this time I got a good look at his back side . The hair on his back was tangled with leaves and pine straw and small twigs like he had been rolling on the ground or sleeping on the ground . his butt area was mated with excrement and it was hanging off of him .After he took a few steps away from me he stoped and turned around and gave me a strange look then turned and walked away through the woods . I did not move I stayed where I was and watched as he moved through the bursh for about 75 yards untell he blended into the brush . I was amazed something so big could move so good through the woods . He was very quite and very agile he did not crash his way through the low limbs but moved around them . After this encounter I was confused about what had just happened . I knew I had just seen something but was not sure what it was . I knew it was something that was way different then any thing I have seen before in the wild . After going over it in my mind for a long time I disided to do some research into it to at least find out if any one else had ever saw the same thing . At this time I was not convinced it was a bigfoot that I had saw but I knew what ever it was it was very rare . I found the bfro site by chance and saw that others had seen creatures that sounded like what I had saw close to where I live . I emailed them and got a responce within a few days with a phone call from one of there researchers that lived close to me . I invited him out and we had a long talk about the creature and there habbits . It turned out many other people where haveing the same things happening to them . Not just sightings but other strange things happening around there homes that could not be explaned . I wont get into that right now it would take to long . btw this was my second encounter the first one was with a young one that stumbled into my tent about 12 years ago . A freind of mine and I where standing by the door way of a parachute tent I had built and a 4 foot creature covered with hair and on 2 feet stumbled in through the door and stoped right in front of us a foot away . Ill tell you about that some other time .now this brings us to the present time . A few monthes ago there was a forest fire not far from my land . Me and a freind of mine went to investigate becouse there was a chance it would come this way . We got to a site where the helicopers where scouping water out of the creek to put the fire out . I realized from where we where if any animals where fleeing the fire that would have to pass where we where . I dident have my camara with me so we went back to get it . When we got back I found a good vantage point where I could see anything that came out of the woods . I did not see any animals comeing out of the woods so I disided to take some pictures of the chopers that where flying real close to us . After showing the pics to a freind of mine on the internet she pointed out there was 2 creatures clearly standing in front of one of the helicopters that was hovering . After haveing them enhanced the face of the larger one was very clear and looks to be over 10 feet tall with a smaller one bent over in front of it . The picture is not that great so it needed to be enhanced to clear it up all that was done to it was the colors where brightend . I am sure with all the high tech stuff we have now it can be enhanced much better then the patterson film or any other photo I have seen so far . As I have said I am a fulltime researcher I have a custom built boat for long stays in the swamps . It has a tower with night vision, spoting scopes and camaras mounted on the tower to see over the brush in the swamps . Up to now my research has been just in the area around my home now with the boat I can expand my research over a very large area . I wont be showing the picture over the internet so dont ask . But I am willing to sale the rights to it for one year for half of any profits it may bring by being published . I need equipment so this is just the way its going to have to be . This is no hoax and I challange anyone to disprove this photo but before that happens its going to cost someone big bucks . No money no bigfoot . I need equipment for my research so this is why I am puting it up for sale . I have the proof now how bad do you want it ?
 
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Oh my. Did Creekfreak really expect anybody to wade through that impenetrable mass of words?

Good lord, man. Paragraphs. Use them.
 
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You are so full of it your eyes are brown why must you lie .
I never said that photo was not enhanced and you know that why are you lieing ?
And one more thing none of your so called experts ever proved anything was added to the photo its people like you that make me sick you cant admit you have been proven worng .
I gave the original to your so called experts and they where able to make the eyes show up with out adding anything to the photo why must you lie do you have some kind of mental disorder ?
 
Yes, tis true that Creek said when showing it that the pic had been "brightened". But, he insisted, nothing had been added. However, the "experts" who compared the original pic to the "brightened" version found much more than brightening had gone on and I dont recall anyone being able to exactly duplicate the "brightened" pic. Still, everyone agreed (with at least one obvious exception) that the critter in the pic was no critter at all, just an interesting interplay of light and shadow. This was plainly evident from the original pic.

Curiously, some folks are saying similar things about the sightings and grainy pics recently of the ivory-billed woodpecker. Some are even suggesting that this is a conspiracy to divert federal funds to a few birding outfits in Arkansas.
 
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Your worng there I did ask the state for a job to study the creature .


And why would they hire an incompetent "researcher" to investigate somethiog for which they have no compelling preliminary evidence?

And one more thing none of your so called experts ever proved anything was added to the photo its people like you that make me sick you cant admit you have been proven worng .


I believe I conclusively demonstrated that details not present in the original to any degree were created in the "enhanced" version. By the way, you never did provide any justification for cranking up the blues, did you?

I gave the original to your so called experts and they where able to make the eyes show up with out adding anything to the photo why must you lie do you have some kind of mental disorder ?


Are you saying that I or someone else on this forum was able to duplicate the eyes as you presented them without gross, unjustifiable, and highly localized manipulation? If so, who? It certainly wasn't I. I stand by my judgement that those eyes are not the result of a simple "enhancement" performed using the workflow you described.
 
By the way, you never did provide any justification for cranking up the blues, did you?

There should never be any justification needed for cranking up the blues. I intend to do so as soon as the kids are in bed and I'm in the garage putting the new cam in my stroked small block ford.

Tonight's pit crew:
John Lee Hooker
Buddy Guy
Junior Wells
 
I believe I conclusively demonstrated that details not present in the original to any degree were created in the "enhanced" version.

And so you did!:clap:
We have all seen it, and I believe it's still on record.

Creek Freak:
Give it up, man!
You've been exposed in public more than once.:bricks:
 
You did not prove anything PC and yes someone on this forum did make the eyes come out without adding anything .
If you where paying attention there was another thread started in another section and someone did prove it could be done without alot of effort.
What makes you think I am an incompetent researcher at least I am researching thats more then I can say for this sorry government we have .
No compelling evidence ?
What about hair ?
What about 6 sightings 2 of them face to face ?
What about a sound recording of one roaring ?
What about DNA is this not enough compeling evidence ?
Come on the mole act does not become you PC your smarter then that .
 

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