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Someone needs to write a holiday song about BF and their followers, I think ?

I mean we have "Granma got runover by a reindeer" and "Frosty the snowman "?

Why not ??
 
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Tom Yamarone has a ton of tunes about BF, I came across this pic while looking on his site and thought it was worth posting. I call it " The Liars "

L. to R. Jeff Meldrum, Tom Yamarone , Terry Smith (front), Bart Cutino, Bob Strain, Daniel Perez, Kathy Strain and Bill Munns.
 

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"He see's you when you're camping,
he knows when you're near-by.
Melba has his DNA,
and it turns out he can fly!

She sampled his blood,
she was checkin' it twice,
try'na find out if he was naughty or nice,
and it turns out he has angellll DNAAAAAAAA!"
 
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.............One of the things it points to is the uber-stupidity of the legendary bigfoot hunters who never bothered to look at how the tracks started or ended. Because if Wallace is just hanging out the door like this then he isn't obfuscating the beginning or end by coming off gravel, leaving on a hard-pack surface or whatever. The tracks just magically begin and then end.
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Not necessarily, of course. Just because the majority of any trackway might be made with the aid of a truck, there is nothing whatsoever to stop the hoaxer from making a few steps unaided down a bank, or off into woods, or whatever, at the beginning and end of the trackway.

Mike
 
I think a film starring John C Reilly, Will Farrell ,Jason Siegel (He's 6'4" ,put him in a Bobo wig) and pick some random female comedienne, as Bigfoot hunters who have their own cable access show could be friggin hilarious.
 
MikeG said:
Not necessarily, of course. Just because the majority of any trackway might be made with the aid of a truck, there is nothing whatsoever to stop the hoaxer from making a few steps unaided down a bank, or off into woods, or whatever, at the beginning and end of the trackway.

Mike
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You do understand there are trackways in the "woods" right. They're called gametrails and they're so obvious that hunters put cameras on them.

But Footie, he lays down the tracks in the sand or mud, then magically disappears as he enters the enchanted forest where the ground is never soft enough for tracks and the brush magically opens as he enters, then folds around him.
 
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You do understand there are trackways in the "woods" right. They're called gametrails and they're so obvious that hunters put cameras on them.
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I spend up to 2 months a year in Africa, much of the time tracking animals. So I do understand about game trails.

My point was that it is relatively easy to disguise the beginning and end of a trackway. One way might be to have the trail lead into or out of woods, and although I didn't say this, obviously to make the trail appear realistic you would have it start and finish somewhere plausible but where tracks couldn't be seen, such as in leaf litter on a woodland floor, or on rocks, or on gravel.

I am not saying anything whatsoever about the validity of the tracks. All I am saying is that the assertion by ABP (that trackways made from vehicles would have obvious ends) has no validity.

Mike
 
MikeG said:
I spend up to 2 months a year in Africa, much of the time tracking animals. So I do understand about game trails.

My point was that it is relatively easy to disguise the beginning and end of a trackway. One way might be to have the trail lead into or out of woods, and although I didn't say this, obviously to make the trail appear realistic you would have it start and finish somewhere plausible but where tracks couldn't be seen, such as in leaf litter on a woodland floor, or on rocks, or on gravel.I am not saying anything whatsoever about the validity of the tracks. All I am saying is that the assertion by ABP (that trackways made from vehicles would have obvious ends) has no validity.

Mike
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You've never observed tracks in gravel or leaf litter? Really? I've seen game trails carved into rock.

The idea of tracks magically appearing in a clearing, then disappearing (again magically) without trace strains credulity, and makes footers look foolish.
 
I'm not talking about game trails. I don't really know why you are.

Mike
 
MikeG said:
I'm not talking about game trails. I don't really know why you are.

Mike
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I'm not sure anymore either. Other than to say that footie footprints magically appearing without somewhere, sometime leading to a corresponding trail (that one could follow to find, I dunno, bigfoot) is illogical. And doesn't seem to trouble bigfoot enthusiasts.
 
I think what most of us are saying is that if BF was a real animal it would be leaving tracks everywhere it went, not just in random places, tracks that could be followed back to the animal, especially by all the so called expert trackers that claim to see BF so often.
 
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You've never observed tracks in gravel or leaf litter? Really? I've seen game trails carved into rock.
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OMFG!!! Bigfootprints in gravel! Note the mid-tarsal break!
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No. Not really. Just my feet, wearing heavy Caterpillar boots. Shows how silly the whole mid tarsal break stuff actually can be...
 
Correa Neto said:
No. Not really. Just my feet, wearing heavy Caterpillar boots. Shows how silly the whole mid tarsal break stuff actually can be...
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I admire the skill involved in skinning caterpillars, but it seems to me they would not be that durable for boots.

That kind of impression is so common too - the fact merldumb has received no commentary on it from anyone in his field means they aren't even paying attention to him.

You seem to get that when there is depth to loose material being walked upon, as you've shown. When you have that light layer of dust on top of hard substrate like the ones in River's pics, they don't have that appearance.

Which points to bigfoot evolving a lockable joint, which he can either lock or unlock according to the terrain.
 
^I told you ther were HEAVY Caterpillar boots.
Its not like those pansy bug things you have at the Northern hemisphere. Talking about the BIG cryptid caterpillars from the Amazon jungle where no white man has ever been.
 
Correa Neto said:
^I told you ther were HEAVY Caterpillar boots.
Its not like those pansy bug things you have at the Northern hemisphere. Talking about the BIG cryptid caterpillars from the Amazon jungle where no white man has ever been.
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Oh, my bad. Those are the ones they use for African tracking. Tracking poachers in your heavy caterpillar-hide boots.

Whenever someone claims this "tracking" credential, like Gimlin being posed as the "Indian Tracker", one has to wonder what delusion or hoax they are operating under.

Gimlin's role is a pathetic "Tonto, Indian Sidekick" to Roger Patterson's act as the Lone Ranger bigfoot hunter.

I've never tried to pose myself as a "tracker" or going somewhere to "track", even though it's a normal part of everyday life to keep close eye on the animals around the cabin. Wherever I go, I can't help myself from doing the same thing.

What can it mean when someone says they are "tracking animals"? The bushmen hired them to find game for them? Park rangers are having them find a man-eating lion? And being hired as experts in this way implies that skill having been developed from their profession in the home country. Or is it "grocery clerk hired to track endangered species for Zimbabwe"? Or maybe it is stretching the truth just a little.

Insofar as the hoaxing there are a number of individuals here who have done some excellent work experimenting and know way more than I do out of having made stompers and practiced with them.

The sheer stupidity of the Dahindens and Greens - looking at those perfectly placed tracks along the road in the dust and declaring them real - that is such an enormous red flag.
 
The great problem since the 1950's is that the Bigfoot story is being shaped exclusively by true believers. They fall for things like Wallace's fake tracks or Ostman's tall tales. They promote such things in mags, books, TV, the net, etc., and people read or listen and believe. They believe because the advocates were there, at Bluff Creek or a habituation location or Area X, and they reported what they saw and heard, with pomp and slant. Believers believe because they have created an enchanted closed universe of Bigfoot lore, told and sold. Nary a discouraging word, you know.

There is no real counterbalance to this; although there is more resistance now than years ago. The neutral and the skeptical left the believers to their own devices and beliefs, generally. In this fertile ground of free range Bigfoot mythmaking, advocates eventually swallowed more and more implausibilities, and never even offered an apology for belching out inanities.

Maybe things are about to change. With all the pub the hypothesized Forest People/Wood Apes are getting with DNA reports, TV shows, Internet outlets, books, etc., more scientists and skeptics will find it necessary to challenge the Bigfooters' storyline, especially if there are louder calls for research dollars or government grants or attempted recognition of a mythical creature as a real animal.

It took decades before science began to respond to creationism, and only after creationists had some success in forcing their dogmas into public school science classes.

Science generally ignored the Bigfoot saga because it was considered harmless. If the saga becomes destructive to the general advancement of critical thought and it demands a response, maybe it will finally get the response it deserves.
 
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