Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

[GT/CS]

I've seen believers post that bigfoot's hair/fur holds in the heat so it doesn't show up on FLIR.

 

[GT/CS]

Bigfoot real animal sighting at LeFlore County Sonic shopping center. At the begining of the video "you can even see the paw print he left behind on this glass window".
It reminds me of something. GT/CS, don't you see a claw print there?
PS:

Nope.
Sorry, am I supposed to see one?
Will you please red box it for me?

Thanks

 

[Jodie]

Well I'm all about exposing the lies if they are there, any way to get a FLIR survey of the county?

The only difference between what you see in the BC pic and what you would find in Oklahoma is the altitude, I bet the caribou are above the treeline in elevation in that BC pic. I don't think a mountain that high exists in Oklahoma so there would be dense tree coverage, you'ld have to wait until winter to do your aerial surveillance.

Bush is a pilot, should be a simple thing to rent a plane and a FLIR for a weekend and fly in a grid pattern over the county. You should give it a go if you are serious.

 

[jerrywayne]

Bipto mentions a valley and that you can't run in the area because of the rocks. Have you narrowed your search to land owned near valleys in Le Flore County? There are about 16 different hollows and canyons in that county.

To be known forevermore in Bigfoot lore as "The Valley of the Apes."

 

[DennyT]

Aerial FLIR survey of Mountain Caribou in Revelstoke, BC.


They can count calves. No Bigfoots here. If Bigfoot existed here it would show up on FLIR.

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I am sure that the 'bleevers" would say that the "bigfoot" of modern folklore grabs deer, eats them, and then uses the hide to shield himself from detection.
Jodie wrote:

Bush is a pilot, should be a simple thing to rent a plane and a FLIR for a weekend and fly in a grid pattern over the county. You should give it a go if you are serious.

Wow.....spoken like a true footer......actually it isn't simple, and it certainly wouldn't indicate he was serious. It would indicate he's a fool. What serious person would do that when there is no "bigfoot" anywhere, let alone in Oklahoma...? You? and it wouldn't prove anything to the bleevers anyway. Or to anyone. You can't prove a negative. The inference that there is no bigfoot is warranted by many facts, one of which is that literally thousands of game surveys have never demonstrated one. What would one more flight mean, done by someone without experience or credentials?

Not to mention the expense and the fact that he lives in Alaska.

 

[Castro]

Bush is a pilot, should be a simple thing to rent a plane and a FLIR for a weekend and fly in a grid pattern over the county. You should give it a go if you are serious.

To take thermal images of deers and bears? What about you going there with your friend Kathy Strain and a decent camera?

 

[Jodie]

To be known forevermore in Bigfoot lore as "The Valley of the Apes."

LOLOLOL....I was focused on Area X and missed that.

 

[jerrywayne]

As I understand it, the evidence supporting the TBRC account is still being collected and examined (such as trail cam photos). In previous field work they did not carry cameras out because they do not believe such photos would be any more conclusive than all the other alleged photos taken by others over the years. I doubt that no personal cameras were at camp locations, just in case they could serve a purpose. We will have to see what they come up by way of verification.

Here are some possible views about what went on in Area X this summer. Correct me if this doesn't jibe or is not all-inclusive.

1. It is an in-side hoax.

A. It is a hoax created by the lies told by all parties involved to mislead the public.
a. A hoax for purposes of financial gain.

B. It is a hoax perpetrated by some members of a Bigfoot research team against other members for the purpose of misleading such members and the public.
a. A hoax for purposes of financial gain.
b. A hoax for purposes of furthering belief in Bigfoot.

2. It is an outside hoax.

A. It is a hoax perpetrated on the Bigfoot research group by persons unknown, perhaps local folks not associated with any Bigfoot group.
a. A hoax for purposes of financial gain.
b. A hoax for personal reasons relating to amusement.
c. A hoax for purposes of furthering belief in Bigfoot.

3. It is not a hoax.

A. Events occurred that were misinterpreted as Bigfoot events by team members.
a. Mundane events misinterpreted due to believer expectations.
b. Inexplicable events interpreted through the imagination of expectant believers.

B. Events recounted accurately by diligent team members.
a. Events interpreted correctly for purposes of discovery of new species of ape, a new type native to Oklahoma.

I know most folks here will dismiss 3B without much effort. For me, option 3A is not credible. The field researchers apparently have at least recorded the stereotyped Bigfoot vocals, so this fact alone I think would preclude any idea that normal events were misunderstood.

Excluding 3A, I would prefer 1B and 2 over 1A. And yep, I would leave 3B open --- just in case.

 

[Jodie]

To take thermal images of deers and bears? What about you going there with your friend Kathy Strain and a decent camera?

Unfortunately knowing Kathy doesn't get me a green card to Area X, believe me I tried, that would be up to Bipto, who doesn't know me.

So what was wrong with my suggestion then? No bigfoot, so no point in seriously considering something like that? Of course, some of you could take a decent camera and check it out once you figure out where the place is.

So I guess we can continue comparing a mountain in Oklahoma that is only 2300 feet tall at it's highest point with a mountain in BC that is 8000 feet tall.

 

[Castro]

Nope.
Sorry, am I supposed to see one?
Will you please red box it for me?

Thanks

Forgive me, it was just a little joke. I guess you missed the smiley.
Actually, I hardly see the toe prints.

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

The directions to this place from the West would be to exit highway 259 near the Peckerwood Knob Cabins on to county road 256, heading East. It's straight for four miles, then starts to climb and do switchbacks for a few miles to Lynn Mountain.

Forest Service Road 6025 A is about one mile from Lynn Mountain, and in that stretch lies the one acre parcel, if I am doing the property location correctly:

The little green marker is Lynn Mountain.

There's lots of cabins for rent in the area, like the Peckerwood Knob Cabins. Two days, a two bedroom cabin with king sized beds plus kitchen, livingroom, deck (two story) is $340. Split four ways that's less than $50 a day for five-star lodging. Less than ten miles from the study site (The "Exposing Area X video).

This is no harder than finding a cabin in a one-mile stretch of road, and having the legal description to boot. It is possible there is a creek crossing in one spot, but this looks pedestrian by my standards. You can rent four-wheelers around there, which seems to me the most agile way to do something like this.

You'd have to bring kevlar vests within a mile of the study site, by the sounds of it.

 

[DennyT]

... In previous field work they did not carry cameras out because they do not believe such photos would be any more conclusive than all the other alleged photos taken by others over the years....
....

well, if that was their standard, "any more conclusive than all the other", why did they go out there at all? LOL.

 

[GT/CS]

Forgive me, it was just a little joke. I guess you missed the smiley.
Actually, I hardly see the toe prints.

Sorry, I saw it but we apparently had different interpretations of the smiley.
Humor is tricky in threads, especially among skeptics!!!

 

[AttorneyTom]

Why would someone be expected to spend thousands of dollars and their time to prove that BF is not there. Hasnt the Benefactor of this Forum offered a cool Million Dollars to show that it is not a hoax ? Perhaps that just might only pertain to the claims of psychics ? Still come up with something real on this topic and you will not be a poor person.

Oh.. and the Peckerwood Knob Cabins !?.. I presume those were handbuilt using local wood products... Sounds very reasonable btw..

 

[Castro]

Unfortunately knowing Kathy doesn't get me a green card to Area X, believe me I tried, that would be up to Bipto, who doesn't know me.

So what was wrong with my suggestion then? No bigfoot, so no point in seriously considering something like that? Of course, some of you could take a decent camera and check it out once you figure out where the place is.

So I guess we can continue comparing a mountain in Oklahoma that is only 2300 feet tall at it's highest point with a mountain in BC that is 8000 feet tall.

Yes, exactly what I think. And a decent camera would do a better job IMO as thermal images tend to be blurry. Actually, Bipto and Kathy Strain should have considered using a decent camera. Too bad, they haven't.

 

[AttorneyTom]

Yes, exactly what I think. And a decent camera would do a better job IMO as thermal images tend to be blurry. Actually, Bipto and Kathy Strain should have considered using a decent camera. Too bad, they haven't.

Maybe someday ?? I have an old 110 Kodak that could be borrowed ?

 

[Jodie]

Yes, exactly what I think. And a decent camera would do a better job IMO as thermal images tend to be blurry. Actually, Bipto and Kathy Strain should have considered using a decent camera. Too bad, they haven't.

Yes, it's a damn shame, isn't it?

 

[Jodie]

Well if y'all go, don't forget your helmets, and you might need to tape some silver dollars over your temples to protect your temporal lobes from the EMF waves they beam at you.

Let's see, don't forget treats, you already know what they like so I won't bother to relist it. They also love music so someone needs to take an instrument, they really like violins the best, but a guitar will do.

 

[Jodie]

Why would someone be expected to spend thousands of dollars and their time to prove that BF is not there. Hasnt the Benefactor of this Forum offered a cool Million Dollars to show that it is not a hoax ? Perhaps that just might only pertain to the claims of psychics ? Still come up with something real on this topic and you will not be a poor person.

Oh.. and the Peckerwood Knob Cabins !?.. I presume those were handbuilt using local wood products... Sounds very reasonable btw..

I think bigfoot might fall into that category, it's considered paranormal. Now on the remote chance they find one, are they going to split the prize four ways, or will it go to the one that kills or captures it?

 

[Jodie]

I am sure that the 'bleevers" would say that the "bigfoot" of modern folklore grabs deer, eats them, and then uses the hide to shield himself from detection.
Jodie wrote:

Wow.....spoken like a true footer......actually it isn't simple, and it certainly wouldn't indicate he was serious. It would indicate he's a fool. What serious person would do that when there is no "bigfoot" anywhere, let alone in Oklahoma...? You? and it wouldn't prove anything to the bleevers anyway. Or to anyone. You can't prove a negative. The inference that there is no bigfoot is warranted by many facts, one of which is that literally thousands of game surveys have never demonstrated one. What would one more flight mean, done by someone without experience or credentials?

Not to mention the expense and the fact that he lives in Alaska.

I wouldn't want to spend a long weekend waiting on bigfoot to show up in Oklahoma if I was absolutely convinced it didn't exist. For that reason, I wouldn't go to the trouble of trying to locate the area if I had no intentions of going. Remember when RL and Stubstad went on that goosechase looking for "the meadow"? Was a report of the shooting really filed in LeFlore County, has that been verified?

If you happen to actually find the place and stay there with no activity it would indicate something to me as far as the validity of the story, I'm sure I wouldn't be alone in that. Believe it or not, I trust you guys not to lie about that.