Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

[DennyT]

"...the sounds he says were emanating from one of the tents..."

gives "boom box" a whole nother meaning....

 

[River]

If you can't find the Wookie, go for the nookie.

Rofl, awesome! Also, the real reason they go to the woods and play bigfoot.

 

[dafydd]

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[dafydd]

http://www.bigfootstudy.com/forums/index.php?topic=224.0

Remember the Pywacket hoax story? I think it happened in the East Texas woods at Monster Central. I wonder if any of these people are involved in Area X.

Here's a real Pyewackett.

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

Too Much fun!

Thanks Shrike for the intelligence on the location. Here's a google earth snapshot of Honobia and the timber north of there:

I knew it! If you use google earth's "ruler" function, there is not one spot in there that is even a mile from a semi-truck road capable of fully loaded trucks with logs. This area has been logged for over a century.

Between this maze of big semi-truck roads there are smaller roads and trails - you are never more than a few hundred yards of a motorized vehicle road.

In the Wiki entry for Honobia we find this regarding the annual bigfoot thing:

This is one of the only mainstay economical boosts to the Honobia area.

So there's your hoaxing motive.

In that report about the "Seige' at Honobia Fish and Game was drawn to the private lot to tell them to knock off the wild shooting and probably illegal shining for deer at night.

 

[RayG]

This BFRO report will show you what footers think of as "remote"

Jeebus... that investigator considers less than 2 city blocks remote? Seriously?

Yes, why on earth would anyone with human-sized feet be walking barefoot in Florida in May? It only got up to 87 degrees in DeBary that day.

RayG

 

[AttorneyTom]

Bigfoot does not exist. So lets quit it ! Lets shut down all of the threads . Be done with it.

 

[William Parcher]

I think that the "rocks thrown at us" experience is another one that lends itself well to the scenario where the hoaxer is somehow connected with the hoaxees.

Once again you do not want armed Bigfoot believers who might do something as stupid as shooting a guy is a hairy costume. If anyone is armed, you want to make sure that they know that the Bigfoot out there in the woods (is a guy with friends and family just like all the rest of us who just happens to be wearing a Bigfoot costume at this moment) should maybe not be shot at without any questions asked.

Anyway, when you look back at what happens when Bigfooters have rocks thrown at them (by hoaxers of course) you see that it is safe for hoaxers. You don't read of believers running hellbent into the trees with guns drawn looking for "the Bigfoot that just threw a rock at them". The rock thrower is not actively pursued or stalked by the guy that had the rock thrown at him.

Yet they will report it as having rocks thrown at them by Bigfoot.

Who believes this crap?

Other Bigfoot believers believe it - that's who.

Yes, other people who already say they believe in Bigfoot are the ones who say that they believe that your rock throwing incident is genuine evidence for Bigfoot.

The whole thing is comedically pathethic when you stop to look at it...

Stop. Bigfoot believers believe the things that other Bigfoot believers say. Stop.

 

[River]

Bipto: Well, no *mating*. We speculate that the one in the bush was younger because it was smaller than the other. It's easy to then extrapolate and think the other was its mother, but of course, we have no idea. All I can say is there's multiple animals there of varying size and color and one big grey SOB who seems to have no fear.

Uhm, yeah.

TBRC "Dedicated to proving the existence of the animal known as Bigfoot."

Theyre' trying to shoot one, or collect evidence of one. (insert long pause wink wink) "right"


They can do all of this story telling and distinguish between members of a "troop" but cannot collect ANY photo/evidence/or shoot one with a rifle?



How can this be.

 

[AttorneyTom]

I am getting weary of trying to talk about something that does not walk on this planet.. in the woods.. and the fields.. or anywhere.

 

[Deacondark]

Too Much fun!

Thanks Shrike for the intelligence on the location. Here's a google earth snapshot of Honobia and the timber north of there:

[qimg]http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn180/lirajeanlogan/Honobia.jpg[/qimg]


I knew it! If you use google earth's "ruler" function, there is not one spot in there that is even a mile from a semi-truck road capable of fully loaded trucks with logs. This area has been logged for over a century.

Between this maze of big semi-truck roads there are smaller roads and trails - you are never more than a few hundred yards of a motorized vehicle road.

In the Wiki entry for Honobia we find this regarding the annual bigfoot thing:



So there's your hoaxing motive.

In that report about the "Seige' at Honobia Fish and Game was drawn to the private lot to tell them to knock off the wild shooting and probably illegal shining for deer at night.

Ermegherd that is so unbelievably remote!!

Like I said, there is not a place anywhere in those mountains where you can hike a mile without crossing a logging road. And people live in houses all through there. Some pretty country though.

 

[Drewbot]

I am getting weary of trying to talk about something that does not walk on this planet.. in the woods.. and the fields.. or anywhere.

Then the fact you remain, makes you more troubled than the rest of us.

Once again Parcher lays it out clearly. Probably a strict rule about who has guns at Area X. And if someone brought a gun one day, bet no Hoaxing goes on.

 

[captain koolaid]

The image of those goofs walking around in the wood wearing helmets is just too much for my brain to handle!
I hope someone gets of photo of that so we can have a 'footer inspirational poster contest.

Holy crap. They get to wear helmets, too? That's it. I definitely want in on one of these fantasy camps. I really want to demoralize the others by saying- "That's it. Game over, man. Game over..."

 

[mikeyx]

Well, I suppose he would be fired from the O.P. and rejected by his new friends, don't you think?

you make it sound like the shifting sands of footery don't shift, like, on a daily basis....

 

[mikeyx]

Bleevers can no longer pretend that there is a gubamint conspercy to cover up figboot's existence. Hooray, skeptics win.

to go with that analogy you make it sound like there's some big culty war being fought on both sides, and to the footery side there is cultish behavior... and those who are more than happy to exploit it...

on the other side, absolutely no difference...

 

[DennyT]

...one big grey SOB who seems to have no fear.

well, then, I guess he just walks right out and chases you out of his forest, regardless of your guns and cameras.

oh, wait....

 

[DennyT]

I think that the "rocks thrown at us" experience is another one that lends itself well to the scenario where the hoaxer is somehow connected with the hoaxees.
....

Anyway, when you look back at what happens when Bigfooters have rocks thrown at them (by hoaxers of course) you see that it is safe for hoaxers. You don't read of believers running hellbent into the trees with guns drawn looking for "the Bigfoot that just threw a rock at them". The rock thrower is not actively pursued or stalked by the guy that had the rock thrown at him.

...
The whole thing is comedically pathethic when you stop to look at it...

Stop. Bigfoot believers believe the things that other Bigfoot believers say. Stop.

astute observation.

The hoaxees enable the hoaxers. If you recall the episode of Finding Bigfoot where Moneymaker started to chase an intruder, he was roundly criticized, ironically, by the token "skeptic", Rene.

So the hoaxers, who are undoubtedly part of the group, continue to throw rocks, knock trees, take gifts, and do the other insane stuff that to the footers constitutes evidence of an actual creature. The Hoaxees' script includes call blasting, leaving gifts, no cameras, and staying behind the rope line, tell stories about your cowardly exploits, win the praise of the 'footers.'

so the hoaxers also enable the hoaxees.

It's like an 18th century dance. Everyone knows their roles, they dress up in their respective costumes, and go to the dance, do their routines, and go home without hooking up.

 

[Castro]

you make it sound like the shifting sands of footery don't shift, like, on a daily basis....

I think that the use of straw men is a common thing in bigfootery, and I see Smeja as a straw man.That's what I meant in the post you quoted. No big deal anyway.

 

[AlaskaBushPilot]

Location of Area X

The liars obviously have something important to hide with the location of area X, so this is my calling. I need to summarize my research because I got stuff to do that actually pays for diapers.

Near as I can tell the biggest noisemaker in the region is named Timothy Patrick Humphreys. He has a brother named Michael Humphreys, who is the person that contacted BFRO liars to come down and lie about an expedition.

The liars say area X is 30 acres. We know it to be near Honobia, but I think it important to point out that location is famous for the annual bigfoot conference, not necessarily its immediate proximity to area X. You can see the facility they used in google earth at Honobia for these events. That conference got nearly a thousand people in one year and included the Dr. Merldumb.

I looked through property records in the surrounding counties: Latimer, Leflore, Pushmatana, and McCurtain for properties in the name of Humphreys. Tim Humphries doesn't own any land.

But Michael Humphries has a number of candidate parcels in LeFlore county. None are 30 acres.

That brings us to a Steven Humphreyss, who owns 28.06 acres in LeFlore County. Section 35, Township 3N Range 23E. Using the USGS quads for the area, that property is located here:

This is the township above. Townships are 36 square miles, divided up into one-square-mile "sections. You read them from the top left to the bottom right. So section 35 is next to last and has Lenox written on it. Each section is 640 acres. So an appx 30 acre parcel owned by a Steven Humphries within it. The metes-and-bounds description is here:

http://leflore.okcountytreasurers.com/index.aspx

Michael Humphrey's properties are in there too, but the problem with them is that they are 9, 10, and 40 acres each. No 30 acre parcel. But we're dealing with liars so it isn't our fault for having difficulty finding the truth.

The Honobia conferences are recorded here:

http://www.veengle.com/s/honobia.html

More than one source claims the dump south of Honobia is an important site, and that the "Humphrey's Cabin" is near there. I can locate the dump by google earth, but haven't researched the Michael Humphrey's properties near it yet, if they are. This property of Steven humphreys is by Whitesboro, to the North. I ran that one down further because it was about 30 acres.

This is a google earth shot of the region, with three places noted: Honobia, Whitesboro, and also Talihina. That place is mentioned in a number of reports.

That is my preliminary report - a group of candidate parcels for Area X and where to get details on them. Nothing fits exactly yet, but amongst the crap in bigfoot reports is the assertion Tim is the property owner. That much is a lie according to county records. If he is leasing land from one of the two big timber companies in the area, that will make it more difficult to pin down.

The location of Area X is protected by a bodyguard of lies. Because it in turn is a lie to protect the original lie about bigfoot. There are other liars who work on behalf of these liars, running interference for them. They need to be ignored. Anyone who has productive information for the location of Area X, or rather "Area Lie" please chime in. We got the region pretty well nailed, but knowing the exact location is going to be a body blow to these liars for sure.

 

[Drewbot]

Why would they bring in the TBRC, when the MABRC is right around the corner, and actually is the host organization for the Honobia Bigfoot Festival?