Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

[idoubtit]

Evidence for Bigfoot? Is this a joke?

Seriously? Are these FB FB people pulling a prank or are they delusional?

 

[William Parcher]

Seriously? Are these FB FB people pulling a prank or are they delusional?

None of the above.

A skeptic such as yourself could mistakenly think that FB/FB is a legitimate entity which is legitimately trying to legitimize Bigfoot.

 

[idoubtit]

So what's their gig?

 

[Robrob]

Humor is sometimes hard to convey on the internet.

 

[snoma]

None of the above.

A skeptic such as yourself could mistakenly think that FB/FB is a legitimate entity which is legitimately trying to legitimize Bigfoot.

I don't understand this. Are you being sarcastic or not? A straight forward answer would help.

 

[idoubtit]

If you guys have a scoop, I'd LOVE to know. Send me info and references/documentation for the news site. You'll get full credit (or not, if you prefer to remain anonymous).

[email protected]

 

[William Parcher]

So what's their gig?

I don't understand this. Are you being sarcastic or not? A straight forward answer would help.

FB/FB is just so over-the-top with Bigfoot hype and promotion that it can't easily be criticized at face value. They seem to post almost any purported evidence and the whole scene there is like a manic attention whore thing.

Much of Bigfootery is like "professional wrestling" as an adult fantasy thing with all sorts of character actors, role playing and general puffery delivered as serious business. To make accusations of pranking or delusion probably misses the point and a deeper understanding.

When an announcer or promoter has declared that a pro-wrestler destroyed his opponent in the ring last week and it will certainly bring about a revenge match it is out-of place to call that person delusional. It may also be silly or a waste of breath to call it a prank. A skeptic may miss the mark and shoot right over the top if they criticize in the most stark and literal fashion.

 

[idoubtit]

Oh crap. You just mentioned wrestling...
Snoma, do not... do not go there. Resist.

On topic, agreed, the BF community is full of insanity, Bigpuffery. I agree that it's hard to land criticism on a target made of marshmallow fluff (so to speak).

It's also hard to gage how serious the general public takes these things. If some funny or sort of interesting video comes up, you never can tell when the media will nab it regardless of the provenance or source. It gets eyeballs looking, they don't care, then it's "news".

What's kind of funny is how FB FB putting out anything and everything as evidence is a great way to drive the reputation of more "serious" folks down the toilet.

I'll be going to the PA Bigfoot Convention later this month. Should be interesting to see what people say about others. I expect much backstabbing and bigpuffery. Fun.

 

[William Parcher]

What's kind of funny is how FB FB putting out anything and everything as evidence is a great way to drive the reputation of more "serious" folks down the toilet.

Meldrum says the same thing but I disagree. I don't think that it is really possible to flush the "serious" Bigfooters down any toilet because the subject itself has never really been outside of the toilet in the first place. It cannot be legitimized by simply having a legitimate person promoting it.

The word strings and "science" of Jeff Meldrum do not make the existence of Bigfoot any more likely than whatever Dallas Gilbert has to say or show.

Hoaxes don't cause people to disbelieve or to look upon the believers as nutjobs. The absence of Bigfoot is what causes it.

 

[River]

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Hoaxes don't cause people to disbelieve or to look upon the believers as nutjobs. The absence of Bigfoot is what causes it. /snip

Well said, and a point that many bigfooters will choose to overlook.


idoubtit: Have you seen the "evidence" that Meldrum claims is authentic? (well i'm quite sure you've seen the pgf, but mostly I'm refering to the foot print evidence) Also, this Ketchum DNA fiasco should be entertaining to watch go down.

 

[Deacondark]

FB/FB has been the source of much amusement to me for a couple of years now. They claim almost everything as "100% Bigfoot"

 

[idoubtit]

Meldrum says the same thing but I disagree. I don't think that it is really possible to flush the "serious" Bigfooters down any toilet because the subject itself has never really been outside of the toilet in the first place. It cannot be legitimized by simply having a legitimate person promoting it.

The word strings and "science" of Jeff Meldrum do not make the existence of Bigfoot any more likely than whatever Dallas Gilbert has to say or show.

Hoaxes don't cause people to disbelieve or to look upon the believers as nutjobs. The absence of Bigfoot is what causes it.

I disagree but don't particularly want to argue about it. There are a few legitimate researchers (I can probably only name 2) that are asking WHAT people experienced -not assuming it is Bigfoot- and WHY they feel strongly that they experienced something out of the ordinary. That's a legit line of inquiry.

I also disagree about the absence of Bigfoot causing people to disbelieve. I'm of the opinion that the public (to distinguish from those who apply skepticism) is wickedly susceptible to the availability heuristic. Many people hold the hope that the damn thing is out there (because they really have no connection to how nature and science works and they think "Why not? Maybe so" is fun to imagine). What they remember is the hoaxes and the silliness that goes on in the media. That has a profound effect on their bias. Yet, if they think that some scientist is seriously looking into it, as opposed to a couple of gun-toting publicity hounds, that adds credibility for some people. I think THIS is why BF hunting groups make lame attempts to look scientific - to be taken seriously.

idoubtit: Have you seen the "evidence" that Meldrum claims is authentic? (well i'm quite sure you've seen the pgf, but mostly I'm refering to the foot print evidence) Also, this Ketchum DNA fiasco should be entertaining to watch go down.

Yes I'm familiar with it. Meldrum = new Krantz. I'm unimpressed, even by the moustache. As an example: why would Meldrum even associate with this Russian nonsense. He's not all there.

 

[Drewbot]

There are a few legitimate researchers (I can probably only name 2) that are asking WHAT people experienced -not assuming it is Bigfoot- and WHY they feel strongly that they experienced something out of the ordinary. That's a legit line of inquiry.

I am confident this is research related to sleep-disorders, and/or the human mind tricking the human into thinking something is bigfoot.

FB/FB is simply promoting the myth of Bigfoot.
In the same way that I find it hard to believe MELDRUM actually believes the stuff he says. I find it difficult to believe whoever is running that site thinks that stuff is real. In that sense, it is kind of like pulling a prank. I think Parcher was referring to the delusional part of your statement.

 

[idoubtit]

You underestimate human gullibility.

 

[snoop_doxie]

Where is Ketchum? This might be the new mystery.

Beth

 

[CosmicDP]

I was never a believer until I saw this compelling home footage. From the amount of NSFW langauge I would assume it was a very frightening experience.

 

[Drewbot]

Is it just me? or does Bigfootry have an extra special lameness about it lately?

 

[idoubtit]

Ye$.

 

[Drewbot]

I can't even bring myself to look at the BFF more than twice a month now.

Either the run-of-the-mill Bigfooters are getting more fringe, or the non-fringe run-of-the-mill Bigfooters are not active anymore. I remember when it was not just Saskeptic trying to keep the kook in check.

 

[GT/CS]

I can't even bring myself to look at the BFF more than twice a month now.

Either the run-of-the-mill Bigfooters are getting more fringe, or the non-fringe run-of-the-mill Bigfooters are not active anymore. I remember when it was not just Saskeptic trying to keep the kook in check.

Ha, me too, except I'll check in maybe once a month at the most!

Watching the Mulders and Kerchacks of the world spiral downward just saddens me.