Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

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George Kennedy said:
I actually didn't go into detail about why my wife was sleeping so hard but she had just gotten back the day prior from an extended stay in the hospital. She had developed kidney stones and during the laser surgery her kidney had been accidentally punctured. She had became septic. When I finally got her home I was allowing her to rest. Actually, I woke her up at three that morning, (I was preparing to pack up my family and leave because this spooked me so bad) immediately my wife could detect that something was wrong. When I told her what I had heard she acknowledged that she had heard the similiar sounds the day prior when she had gotten home from the hospital. According to my wife, the sounds were coming from a much further distance away, so the "shock and aw" effect was greatly decreased. My wife went on to tell me that "whatever the thing was, it kept striking wood together."

Apparently my son (6 years old) had heard the thing making sounds too and he called it an "alien." (No, I don't believe in aliens.) My son became scared of it's screams and would not stay outside and play. (My wife had failed to tell me any of this prior to my incident.) I assume it was because she was extremely sick, weak, and tired.

Also, to say that he vocalizations "shook my house" was used as an analogy by me. The best way I can describe the power of the vocalization would be comparing the howl to standing near Bristol Motor Speedway during qualifying, or whenever it thunders prior to a rain storm.

I am not exactly sure what a GE90 is, but the sound I heard was horrifyingly loud/powerful. The volume was comparable to loud speakers and a amplifier.

I actually live in a log house with very thick walls. We also use a small fan for constant noise to help us sleep. (I was use to the noises of Charleston, WV. When I moved into the country the silence was deafening. I couldn't sleep w/o some type of noise.) All of the above reasons (mostly my wife's illness) is probably why she did not wake up during the incident.

I currently live in the middle on "nowhere" and the area these sounds came from was completely unhabitated. No homes, no business, only mountains and woods for miles.

I realize that the story sounds far fetched, but prior to this incident happening to me, I looked at Bigfoot as total hogwash.
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George: You might ask yourself this. How come out of ALL of the bigfoot reports/sightings/videos/photos/reports of getting hit by cars/shot by hunters etc that we have NO verifiable physical evidence of this alleged animal? None.

All animals leave traces that can identify them. (real verifiable physical evidence) Bigfoot does not? What gives?

Please don't use the argument of "rare" or any other excuse. We have trail cam images, video and DNA from a wolverine in california. I would suggest this is perhaps more rare than bigfoot is alleged to be, and a much smaller creature.

No verifiable physical evidence of bigfoot. You are chasing ghosts.
 
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George Kennedy said:
Again, use some common sense. How many black bear are there in North America? How many moose? Elk? In souther WV alone we have an estimated bear population of 12,000 yet I have never seen a black bear road kill. I realize they do happen But you cannot (with a sane mind) discount this fact.
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Wow, you have never seen a black bear dead on the road? I have, Hell, we used to drive to the dump, put a candy bar on the hood of the car, and have them climbing all over our car. We didn't need roadkill to verify anything. But, there was roadkill, and a big black bear does lot's more damage than a deer.
 
George Kennedy said:
I actually didn't go into detail about why my wife was sleeping so hard but she had just gotten back the day prior from an extended stay in the hospital. She had developed kidney stones and during the laser surgery her kidney had been accidentally punctured. She had became septic. When I finally got her home I was allowing her to rest...
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Would it be fair to say that you had not gotten much rest in the previous few days?
 
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My dogs immediately began barking in the direction of the noise. I assumed it was a mountain lion.
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Why would you assume that it was a mountain lion in West Virginia? Did you forget where you were?
 
George Kennedy said:
Missin the point. We have over 1,000,000 deer in WV. Over 3,5 million in PA.

If we find 100 road killed deer per month in WV alone, that is an almost immeasurable amount when compared to the deer population for that given area.
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All I am trying to say is this: If we have millions and millions and millions of deer and only a small amount of deer laying along the roadways (when comparing the dead/living ratio) then why should a very small living herd of anything's dead be found laying dead along the roadway? This doesn't add up.

Try as you might, a defense attorney would embarrass you if your case was riding on this type of analysis.

Is it impossible that a species of animal with very limited numbers be killed during an automobile vs. animal collision? No. However; it is highly unlikely, and mathematically improbable. Regardless of the species of animal you are talking about. (Unless the animal makes the ditchline it's home.)
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Except that seeing bigfoot on or near a road is very common...yet roadkills are zero.

There are lots of road killed bear in WV. Lots. Lots are reported, and undoubtedly lots more are not in the official reports. And this is just one study in one state.

http://www.wvdnr.gov/hunting/PDFFiles/U18 1 Ryan et al.pdf
 
The WV black bear population is about 10,000. There are plenty found dead on the roads.

The number of road killed deer in WV is phenomenal. In 2001 and 2002 , about 40,000 deer were hit by cars in WV alone.

It's orders of magnitude higher than 100 a month.

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George Kennedy, the likelihood that you were hoaxed by a person or persons making animal-like shrieks and "striking wood together" is far greater than that you were terrorized by a non-human animal for which we have no concrete evidence in the form of bones, blood, tissue, hair, fossils, unambiguous photography, or eyewitness testimony from any biologist or life-scientist.

A person or persons screamed outside your house and struck wood together. We don't know how that person got there or what his/her/their precise intentions were (other than to scare and hoax you). Advancing the interpretation that this was some kind of giant North American wood-ape is simply argument from ignorance (I don't know what it was, therefore sasquatch) and argument from incredulity (I don't believe that a person would do that, therefore sasquatch).

Please take these points under consideration.
 
LTC8K6 said:
The WV black bear population is about 10,000. There are plenty found dead on the roads.

The number of road killed deer in WV is phenomenal. In 2001 and 2002 , about 40,000 deer were hit by cars in WV alone.

It's orders of magnitude higher than 100 a month.

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Yes, but bigfoot are nimble and fleet of foot. Theyz smart too. And there's so few of them and most of them live far from civilization so that the likelihood of actually encountering them is remote. 99% of sightings are bogus. So they say. :D
 
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You are joking about nimble feet ????
If one were to think that the subject of the PGF was a Bigfoot, then Bigfoot might have a foot length 23 % of height. You can calculate what that would mean for a human like yourself. For me it would mean a shoe size well into the 30's.
Nimble? Fast? Not on land...
 
Where are the track castings of this 800 to 1,000 pound jet engine screaming, house shaking, biped?

How many 911 calls resulted from this incredibly loud noise, that was still incredibly loud from 300 yards away? It must have been audible for many miles if it was house shaking loud from 3 football fields away.

How does one know that a very loud and new noise in the woods is coming from 300 yards away?

What sort of animal crashes through the woods, while it walks, making a lot of noise?

Now, I gotta admit, this would get my attention:

*School bus driver reported an ape jumped on the bus roof while waiting for students (very old incident).
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George Kennedy said:
Also, to say that he vocalizations "shook my house" was used as an analogy by me.
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The word is "hyperbole".

I currently live in the middle on "nowhere" and the area these sounds came from was completely unhabitated. No homes, no business, only mountains and woods for miles.
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Nice pictures of the area on google earth.

I'd be afraid to walk around in the woods though. Especially at night. Like at thirty below zero seven miles out with an 8 month pregnant wife and complete cloud cover blocking all moon and starlight.

You hear stories about people out in the woods like that, just enjoying themselves, but they're not believable. Common sense tells you that.
 
1st weekend at the lake this year, Clare County Michigan, no sign of the big fella.
 
Clare is the Bigfoot capital right? What else is there to do?? Race cars on Story road?
 
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