Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

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George Kennedy
When I wrote that a hoaxer could use his own feet for a model and you replied that your feet weren't big enough....
Do you seriously not comprehend that a model is usually smaller than the actual final product? I am impressed and not in the good sense....I'd suggest you stay away from any woodworking tools sharper than a sanding block.

And courtrooms. If he's an "expert witness", God help the legal system.

George,
Because you think you saw a bigfoot has nothing to do with whether or not bigfoot exists and the first thing you should know as an investigator is that you need to get that enounter out of your head and don't let it cloud your judgment.

I think it gets clearer with every post that he isn't an investigator, except maybe in his own mind.

 

[George Kennedy]

misidentifying forest sounds

predawn/early dawn, a squirrel taking repeated hops through the leaves can sound incredibly like someone stomping towards you. try deer hunting over corn, just before dawn the squirrels make it sound like people are closing on your position.

You are correct about people misidentifying animals and their sounds all the time. Owls are a perfect example of this.

In the eastern U.S people will often claim to have heard mountain lions when in all reality they are hearing owls.

To an untrained listener, owls can literally give a person the creeps out in the woods, late at night w/o a flashlight.

About the squirrel misidentification, I have learned through trial and error of hunting for numerous years to recognize the sound of animals by the way they walk/scurry around. A squirrel will take individual "hops" but they are very easiy to recognize after awhile. A deer, (unless spooked) will walk with a much more fluid motion, usually with less noise.

Bears are very silent when walking too. (Unless they are looking for food.)

I actually had a true encounter with a Sasquatch on July 23rd 2009. The time was 11:30p.m and the creature walked right onto the edge of my property. The best way to describe the walking would be Andre the Giant walking through the woods. No clumsy noises, just large, "two footed" walking.

The beast stopped up the hill from me and proceeded to howl/roar several times. The power from this things vocal chords literally shook my home. Immediatly, another "one" started calling back to the first one from across the ridge. The second "one" made a series of howling sounds.

Prior to this happenening, I did not believe in the existence of an animal like this.

If anyone is interested in more details, let me know. I am currently on a camping trip with my family and we are really "roughing" it. I am forced to use the wireless internet provided by the forest. (Ha-ha.)

 

[Drewbot]

We all know that nobody stomp around in the woods at night and yells really loud at campers. To add, we also know that Boy Scouts in the woods never make shelters or lean-to's in the middle of the woods for no other reason than they want to make a shelter out of sticks and logs.

 

[The Shrike]

No clumsy noises, just large, "two footed" walking.

That's what I heard. What would you consider the probability that I was being checked out by a bigfoot? (I live in a county with multiple bigfoot reports logged on the BFRO's database.)

The beast stopped up the hill from me and proceeded to howl/roar several times. The power from this things vocal chords literally shook my home. Immediatly, another "one" started calling back to the first one from across the ridge. The second "one" made a series of howling sounds.

So you believe that these creatures that have survived centuries without a single individual being collected by us humans can also be louder and more conspicuous than any other native wildlife? "House-shakingly" loud would be a description I'd reserve for a close thunderclap, a sound that literally can be heard several miles away.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

The power from this things vocal chords literally shook my home.

Do you understand,when you say something like that, any credibility you may have had among rational people with any clue about acoustics, literally disappears in a puff of smoke ?

You join people like Meldrum, who claims the sound of Bigfoot vibrated someone's pants .. And he should really know better..

 

[LTC8K6]

The power from this things vocal chords literally shook my home.

They always go too far. They never know when to quit. He went right over the brink with that one.

Classic sign of someone you should not believe.

 

[Resume]

The beast stopped up the hill from me and proceeded to howl/roar several times. The power from this things vocal chords literally shook my home. Immediatly, another "one" started calling back to the first one from across the ridge.

Perhaps it was a T-Rex.

 

[William Parcher]

Perhaps it was a T-Rex.

Oh yeah, baby. That will shake your home!

 

[DennyT]

The beast stopped up the hill from me and proceeded to howl/roar several times. The power from this things vocal chords literally shook my home.

Was the creature sort of bent over? Cause this sounds suspiciously like a fart.

 

[Drewbot]

Here is another thermal Bigfoot thingy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T83E4B4RNoc&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

 

[LTC8K6]

Was the creature sort of bent over? Cause this sounds suspiciously like a fart.

Cans of pork and beans will do that...

 

[DennyT]

Re:Here is another thermal Bigfoot thingy

Hell, back home we had to bite the head off a chicken fore we was lowed to graduate high school.

But seriously, do these people know about getting DNA samples to identify predators-vandals

 

[DennyT]

George
Here's the famous bigfoot pig story. Does this sound like your sighting?
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=8547

 

[George Kennedy]

This is not "understanding" but someone pulling a number out of their rectal duct. There is no math to be done. And as far as your investigative skills, at least in this case, I'm not impressed

Many times, (especially when someone is trying to get their point across at any cost) people refuse to acknowledge the obvious or use common sense when it goes against their point of view on the subject.

Regardless of my investigative skills, (or lack there of) anyone who has 1/3 of a brain would have to agree that there are probably more human beings living in America than there are Sasquatch. So, with this obvious fact being stated, I must now pose this question to you: How many dead "roadkilled" human beings do you see laying along the ditchlines when driving down the road?

How many "roadkilled" black bears do you see laying in the ditchline?

This question is simply comparing "apples to apples." If a person is willing to say that Sasquatch does not exist because we haven't found one's corpse piled up dead from an automobile hitting it, we have to look at other "known" species of animals in order to make this theory hold weight.

Being an investigator often requires a person to simply take there personal feelings and emotions out of the equation and look at the simple, common sense truth.

If I am to conclude that there should be road killed sasquatch laying along side the road then I must acknowledge that from a simple mathmatical standpoint we should be seeing many, many more road killed black bears, elk, moose, and humans laying along side the road. (This cannot be denied simply due to the sheer population numbers of these things compared to the population number of a Sasquatch or any animal that would be on an endangered species list.)

How many wolves do you hear of being found dead laying in a ditchline? I have not heard of any. Does this mean that they do not exist? (I am not a fool. I realize that wolves are real.)

Take Bigfoot out of the equation here and plug in any species of animal that is few in number throughout North America. The argument becomes elementary.

 

[LTC8K6]

Many times, (especially when someone is trying to get their point across at any cost) people refuse to acknowledge the obvious or use common sense when it goes against their point of view on the subject.

Regardless of my investigative skills, (or lack there of) anyone who has 1/3 of a brain would have to agree that there are probably more human beings living in America than there are Sasquatch. So, with this obvious fact being stated, I must now pose this question to you: How many dead "roadkilled" human beings do you see laying along the ditchlines when driving down the road? How many "roadkilled" black bears do you see laying in the ditchline?

This question is simply comparing "apples to apples." If a person is willing to say that Sasquatch does not exist because we haven't found one's corpse piled up dead from an automobile hitting it, we have to look at other "known" species of animals in order to make this theory hold weight.

Being an investigator often requires a person to simply take there personal feelings and emotions out of the equation and look at the simple, common sense truth.

If I am to conclude that there should be road killed sasquatch laying along side the road then I must acknowledge that from a simple mathmatical standpoint we should be seeing many, many more road killed black bears, elk, moose, and humans laying along side the road. (This cannot be denied simply due to the sheer population numbers of these things compared to the population number of a Sasquatch or any animal that would be on an endangered species list.)

How many wolves do you hear of being found dead laying in a ditchline? I have not heard of any. Does this mean that they do not exist? (I am not a fool. I realize that wolves are real.)

Take Bigfoot out of the equation here and plug in any species of animal that is few in number throughout North America. The argument becomes elementary.

Well, 1 is already more than none...

Did you really make the road kill comparison again? Did you really include humans in it?

You must think we all just got off the bus from Muncie...

 

[George Kennedy]

George
Here's the famous bigfoot pig story. Does this sound like your sighting?
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=8547

No, that isn't mine. I can tell you about my initial sighting. Go to BFRO, click on the state of WV map, then go to McDowell Co. The initial sighting is listed as a class "B" rural residence hear vocalizations. (Or something like that.)

When I had the initial incident, a Corrections officer told me that he had an uncle who had supposedly been hearing the same thing I had heard. According to my friend, his uncle had saw/heard a Bigfoot. I though the guy was crazy but they seemed to be sincere with their accounts. About three weeks after I told my friend about my initial encounter, a rep. from BFRO called my home. (I honestly thought that it was a joke initially.) When the
BFRO rep spoke with me about my initial encounter, he asked if they could come by my home.

When I spoke with the rep from the web-site, my wife and I had already had several encounters/incidents that we were totally weirded out over. We had moved to this area only a few months prior and the incidents were becoming more and more frequent.

Since the summer/fall all of these things happened, I have had only 1 or 2 things "out of the ordinary" happen that can't be explained.

 

[GT/CS]

So based on your question about human roadkill you are saying that there are more humans living in the wild than bigfoots and because those wild humans don't get hit by cars then it makes sense that bigfoots don't get hit either.

You must be asking that because anyone who is not in a coma knows that comparing civilized human roadkill to bigfoot roadkill is a ridiculous comparison, on a number of levels.

 

[George Kennedy]

Well, 1 is already more than none...

Did you really make the road kill comparison again? Did you really include humans in it?

You must think we all just got off the bus from Muncie...

I'm not the one who started with the road kill scenario. If a person is willing to throw out "off the wall" arguments, they must be willing to look at the logical side of that off the wall argument.

It amazes me how the average "educated" person loses all common sense and logic when talking about a subject that is passionate to him or her. All fact, reason, and logic go out the window for emotion.

In an earlier post, someone stated that if Bigfoot were real, there would be roadkill. My only point is this, take the name Bigfoot out of the equation and plug in any know species, including humans.

If I am wanting to convince anyone that my logic is rational, I had better be able to use common sense facts to support my argument.

The average rational thinking, educated person views the world through a common sense approach. However; when matters such as Bigfoot, etc. are talked about, the ability to even attempt to view facts with common sense usually goes out the window. (For both sides of the argument.)

 

[George Kennedy]

So based on your question about human roadkill you are saying that there are more humans living in the wild than bigfoots and because those wild humans don't get hit by cars then it makes sense that bigfoots don't get hit either.

You must be asking that because anyone who is not in a coma knows that comparing civilized human roadkill to bigfoot roadkill is a ridiculous comparison, on a number of levels.

How? The sheer numbers alone support this comparison w/o even looking at the ability to reason, etc.

 

[William Parcher]

How many wolves do you hear of being found dead laying in a ditchline? I have not heard of any. Does this mean that they do not exist? (I am not a fool. I realize that wolves are real.)

Washington Verifies Road-Killed Canine as Wolf

New genetic tests have verified that a canine found dead on a road northwest of Spokane last month was a pure gray wolf...

The wolf carcass was discovered June 5, 2008 by a Washington Department of Transportation (DOT) crew along State Route 291 near Tum Tum in Stevens County, about 25 miles northwest of Spokane. DOT staff contacted WDFW to retrieve the carcass.

Wisconsin DNR News & Outdoor Report of May 28, 2003

Lone wolves are very mobile, and recently one was killed by a vehicle near Oconomowoc in Waukesha County. That was the third verified wolf in southern Wisconsin in recent years.

These are just samples. There are many other citations of road-killed wolves.