BBC 9/11: The Conspiracy Files

CHF said:
Aphelion,

rather than bitch and moan about who was interviewed, consider this....

If you had ANY structural engineers or demolition pros on your side you wouldn't find yourself bitching and moaning about who was interviewed.

In other words, the best thing you can do for your "movement" is to find some experts and bring them on board with your evidence.

So what are you waiting for?
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When Jowenko came on board, members of this forum harassed him.
 
Aphelion said:
Are you claiming intercepts were not routine before 911? Have you heard Jeff's phonecall with NORAD? I suggest you listen to it.
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Intercepts outside the ADIZ were not routine. In the 10 years prior to 9/11, the learjet incident cited above is the ONLY instance of a military intercept of a civilian aircraft over CONUS airspace.

-Gumboot
 
Aphelion said:
When Jowenko came on board, members of this forum harassed him.
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They did not. They contacted him to confirm his views on the issue. The sort of thing any decent person truely interested in the truth would do.

-Gumboot
 
gumboot said:
They did not. They contacted him to confirm his views on the issue. The sort of thing any decent person truely interested in the truth would do.

-Gumboot
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No, Rizkilla pretended to be a Washington Post reporter and rang him. Then people emailed him to tell him he was wrong.
 
gumboot said:
Intercepts outside the ADIZ were not routine. In the 10 years prior to 9/11, the learjet incident cited above is the ONLY instance of a military intercept of a civilian aircraft over CONUS airspace.

-Gumboot
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Wrong. I shall find the call for you. It is in the excellent series "Popular Mechanics Debunked".
 
Aphelion said:
Yes, he did:

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
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Yet another troofer lie. The press conference in question is here. The above quote is not in it, and the actual quote in context doesn't mean what you say it does.

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)
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Accurate quote, but again out of context. Full quote is:
Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.
But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became -- we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his al Qaeda killers anymore. And if we -- excuse me for a minute -- and if we find a training camp, we'll take care of it. Either we will or our friends will. That's one of the things -- part of the new phase that's becoming apparent to the American people is that we're working closely with other governments to deny sanctuary, or training, or a place to hide, or a place to raise money.
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Hardly supports your view that Bush gave up on OBL.
 
Aphelion said:
When Jowenko came on board, members of this forum harassed him.
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No, not really. He had blinders placed on him by the people interviewing him. As far as I'm aware, all he had to base his conclusion on were a few clips of the actual collapse. I'm sure the wide, long shot showing the mechanical penthouse collapse into the building, 5 seconds before the rest of the building collapses, wasn't among them.

Given the limited evidence and the limited time with which to "study" the event (he had no idea WTC7 had even collapsed on 9/11 until that interview), there really wasn't much else he could conclude.

Basically, he was railroaded.
 
WildCat said:
Yet another troofer lie. The press conference in question is here. The above quote is not in it, and the actual quote in context doesn't mean what you say it does.


Accurate quote, but again out of context. Full quote is:

Hardly supports your view that Bush gave up on OBL.
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I saw him say it. I shall track down the video.
 
Aphelion said:
When Jowenko came on board, members of this forum harassed him.
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When will Jowenko's paper proving CD be published in a peer-reviewed journal? Oh that's right, Jowenko never even wrote a paper. His opinion was based on watching a 10 second video, shown to him by troofers. Woo woo!
 
Aphelion said:
Wrong. I shall find the call for you. It is in the excellent series "Popular Mechanics Debunked".
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I'm sorry, but you're completely, utterly wrong. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

NORAD's responsibility is to protect threats passing through the ADIZ. That is all. They do not involve themselves in domestic air traffic. They did not have the resources, nor the mandate.

This is not only supported by past evidence in enormous quanities, by the directives to NORAD, but also by US law and FAA regulations.

-Gumboot
 
gumboot said:
I'm sorry, but you're completely, utterly wrong. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
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Gumboot, I have to say that I really enjoy your bi-weekly slapdowns of troofers challenging you on the "NORAD Standown". The outcome is certain, but it's entertaining nonetheless!
 
WildCat said:
Gumboot, I have to say that I really enjoy your bi-weekly slapdowns of troofers challenging you on the "NORAD Standown". The outcome is certain, but it's entertaining nonetheless!
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Sure, SimCity 4 is a great challenge, and I really get into the tactical mastery required to succeed in "Company of Heroes", but every now and then I just want to run "Halo" and just enjoy some good old fashion turkey shooting.

-Gumboot
 
Aphelion said:
Watch him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o

I think video is very important. Unless you are one of these people who conduct all interactions with humans through text,

Imagine the poor families watching this and not even having an investigation yet.
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I am consistantly amazed at the astounding lack of basic language comprehension displayed by Conspiracy Theorists.

It's unbelievable. You often hear jokes about people being failed by the education system, or how Americans are poorly educated compared to other nations (okay, you probably don't hear that in the States, but it comes up often over here). I usually dismiss this sort of thing.

But if the truthers are examples of the product of your schools... yikes!

-Gumboot
 
By the way Aphelion,

you ARE aware that Jowenko says the WTC towers were NOT demolition jobs, right?
 
Aphelion said:
Watch him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o

I think video is very important. Unless you are one of these people who conduct all interactions with humans through text,

Imagine the poor families watching this and not even having an investigation yet.
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Holy mother of Christ...

:jaw-dropp

What is different in this video than what was already posted? Why do you think the video proves you right, where the transcript proved you wrong?

Can you answer that? Because... it's amazing...
 
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