BBC 9/11: The Conspiracy Files

Aphelion said:
Yes.

Final cut will be realeased in the next couple of months. I think documentaries like the one by the BBC will be whetting everyones appetite nicely.
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Did Dylan say that they lied about calling him a dropout and what did the producers say?

Don't they have to raise $23 Million first?
 
Aphelion said:
Worldwide release of final cut says otherwise.
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Kind-of late isn't it ;) What's the most recent deadline for completion? Are those big distribution deals in place yet?

ETA- final cut's out in a couple of months. Theatres schedule further ahead than that, don't they? Given the film's massive distribution, why haven't I heard of any theatres planning to show it?
 
CptColumbo said:
Did Dylan say that they lied about calling him a dropout and what did the producers say?
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Why don't you just listen to the show? Dylan indeed said it was a lie. The producer just made up some crap about dropout having a different meaning in Britain.

Don't they have to raise $23 Million first?
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Why?
 
Aphelion said:
It isn't an error. They went out of their way to portray the truthers as badly as possible. Jones was called an evangelist, Dylan was called a dropout, Fetzer was filmed in such a way as to make him look kooky(I think he is by the way).

On the other hand, debunkers were portrayed as professional and filmed at ground zero etc.

There were 13 debunkers and only 3 truthers. It was completely biased.
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Your last point there is grossly dishonest. They only actually interviewed one "debunker" - Davin Coburn from PM. The other people they interviewed were not "debunkers" - they were primary sources of information - in most cases addressing things raised by the CTers.

This is something you just don't seem to get. In a REAL investigation, when someone says "X" you go and find X, or people who witnessed X, or people who did X, and you ask them about it. Those people are not debunkers. A debunker would be someone else unrelated to X who said "well X isn't true".

-Gumboot
 
Another misrepresentation in the film was the steel in the hanger. They made it seem like all the steel was stored there. They made no mention of the steel shipped away. Thats a lie by omission.
 
Aphelion said:
Why don't you just listen to the show? Dylan indeed said it was a lie. The producer just made up some crap about dropout having a different meaning in Britain.
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Why do you believe Dylan rather than the producer's explaination? Isn't it possible that it means something different in the UK? Look at what "public school" means in the US and the UK.

Again, if that's the only thing in error (possibly due to a misunderstanding of lingo), they did pretty well.
 
Aphelion said:
Worldwide release of final cut says otherwise.
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Dream on. Dylan doesn't even have a contract yet.
And no one in the big movie business wants to be
the unpatriotic a**hole to make money out of that
tragic event by supporting conspiracy theories and
therefore damage their own image.

And beside that:
Don't you know that "Hollywood" is owned by the
evil NWO-Zinonists-Illuminati cabal anyway?

How naive/old are you?
 
Aphelion said:
The BBC show claimed the debris field was not 8 miles. This is contradicted by mainstream press reports.
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Wow, you missed the entire part where they said that it was 7-8 miles by DRIVING> because the road that went to the lake was AROUND the area of impact.

however from the impact point to the lake DIRECTLY which was the way the wind was blowing that day, is only 1 mile from the crash site.

The BBC also called Dylan a dropout, another lie.
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You missed the part where they echoed "self-confessed" before that "dropout"

So you admit the documentary was biased?
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biased toward the truth. not lies.
 
CHF said:
How many theatres did Dylan say? 3,000 was it?

:dl:
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Hmmm... at roughly US$10,000 for a theatrical 35mm print, that's $30 million just to pay for the actual prints, let alone courier charges, advertising, etc.

Of course they could play them in multiplexes and stagger sessions so they can play the same print on multiple screens, but only the biggest releases get multiple screens.

-Gumboot
 
Aphelion said:
They said that Dylan was a self confessed
dropout.
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Dylan stated it; they only repeat what people tell them. if dylan didn't confess to being a drop out, why would they say "self-confessed" and how would they know he's a drop-out?

Dylan denied ever saying this, and he never went to college so he could not have dropped out.
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why do you need to be in college to be a drop out? Ever heard of high school drop outs? As long as you attend a school, and you drop out, YOUR are a drop out. He went to FILM SCHOOL TWICE; and he dropped out TWICE.
 
Aphelion said:
Another misrepresentation in the film was the steel in the hanger. They made it seem like all the steel was stored there. They made no mention of the steel shipped away. Thats a lie by omission.
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They said it was all that remains. Which is true.

-Gumboot
 
Aphelion said:
It isn't an error.
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Then it was Dylan who made that error. not BBC

They went out of their way to portray the truthers as badly as possible.
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They didn't have to. The "truthers' do it fine on their own. BBC only offered to air their claims, and decided to do what most people do when confronted with claims that may be plausible. do some research, get testimony of those who were there, and are experts, and get a different claim. That's what the BBC did.

Something truthers DO NOT DO. Fetzer never interviewed the pilot of the C130, but claims that hte pilot was the one that remote controlled the plane into the pentagon (yet we know that 767/757;s cant be remot controlled anyway). Yet here is the c130 pilot on the BBC program relating what he was doing that day. So, fetzer by accusing this pilot of being a criminal (essentially) has falsely accused this pilot as being apart of a huge criminal plot.

That's what we always see from the truthers. Something the BBC went out of their way to show why truther claims need to be researched
 
gumboot said:
They said it was all that remains. Which is true.

-Gumboot
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It was deliberately misleading.

The producer said on Alex Jones show that he found the ISI link "interesting". He even said he may make a future documentary on it. So why would he not put something so interesting in this film? Before he claimed case closed.

The doc can't claim to have debunked all the theories until it addresses them all. To include the lone gunman nonsense but leave out the ISI link which the producer says is "interesting" says it all.
 
Arus808 said:
Then it was Dylan who made that error. not BBC



They didn't have to. The "truthers' do it fine on their own. BBC only offered to air their claims, and decided to do what most people do when confronted with claims that may be plausible. do some research, get testimony of those who were there, and are experts, and get a different claim. That's what the BBC did.

Something truthers DO NOT DO. Fetzer never interviewed the pilot of the C130, but claims that hte pilot was the one that remote controlled the plane into the pentagon (yet we know that 767/757;s cant be remot controlled anyway). Yet here is the c130 pilot on the BBC program relating what he was doing that day. So, fetzer by accusing this pilot of being a criminal (essentially) has falsely accused this pilot as being apart of a huge criminal plot.

That's what we always see from the truthers. Something the BBC went out of their way to show why truther claims need to be researched
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Watch the CBC documentary and see how an unbiased program on 9/11 is done.
 
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