BBC 9/11: The Conspiracy Files

Quote from Gumboot

The series was produced by the BBC.

I used to uphold the BBC as one of the rare less-bias sources of information. However these days I would consider them just as biased and sensationalist-eager as any American broadcaster. I'm not sure if this is a shift at the BBC itself, or simply me discovering a bias that was always there.

-Gumboot
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You mean like when the History Channel plays "Loose Change"?

It's not about bias. It's about facts. If the documentary states that "Al Qaeda" was invented by US intelligence, that's not a matter of "bias". It's a matter of it being true, or a lie.

All information I'm aware of indicates it's a lie. In which case the BBC is lying.

I would be very happy to see "factual" broadcasters censoring their programmes so they only broadcast things that were true. That's what they're SUPPOSED to do. It's something they seem to have all forgotten.

-Gumboot
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Aphelion said:
So MG1962 must have been implying that the ATCs are violent?
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The point is that just because she, or anybody else, is a family member doesn't give them any more special expertise to judge what is or isn't a CD than I, or YOU for that matter.
 
instead of speucliatin on what gumboot meant by his statements, why not ask him?
 
But the fact is that you can be biased with 911. The conspiracy is provably false. The program set out to prove the conspiracy wrong, not to go into false claims.
 
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[SIZE=-1]they found a bandana and passport in shanksville but not a damn engine?[/SIZE]
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911 was inside job, why not air loose change after the show to get the story straight
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It's worth noting that Bush gave his "Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th" only 2 months after 9/11, when there were none yet. That speaks volumes to me.
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CptColumbo said:
How does gumboots opinion apply to me and the rest of the forum, and to the facts of the documentary.
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Because we're sheeple, clearly. If one of us criticises a media outlet, we must all shun it immediately.

With that in mind, I no longer read, watch or listen to any media - except for Randi's commentaries, which I print out in a large, high contrast font, so that I can read them through the blinkers on my tinfoil helmet.
 
It's worth noting that Bush gave his "Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th" only 2 months after 9/11, when there were none yet. That speaks volumes to me.
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Actually the "4,000 Jews didn't show up" theory was out there within the first week.
 
Aphelion said:
Gumboot clearly calls the biased liars. Yet they are not biased liars anymore when they produce this hit piece.
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I think you'll find that even in this very thread I said the BBC was biased. The documentary was clearly intended to discredit 9/11 CTs, and that's what it did.

But the lying accusation was directed at a single fact - whether the CIA created Al Qaeda. You will note from my posts that I clarified they were lying IF the documentary claimed that.

I am not aware of any lies in the Conspiracy Files program, so while biased, there are no lies. Unless you'd like to present some?

-Gumboot
 
chillzero said:
Indeed.
I would recommend that people do no listen to it if, like me, they tend to replay things that impact them a lot - like in dreams, or daydreams.

That clip upset me terribly, and has come back to haunt me on several occasions.
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I don't know if it's the same one... but there was a youtube video I saw that had a live news presenter talking to someone inside the towers. They were describing conditions, and that was why I was watching the video. And then, right in the middle, the building collapse.

It was completely unexpected, and something of a numbing experience. I just sat there staring at the screen for several minutes.

I don't think I will ever forget the sound of that scream.

I usually try to shut out the personal horror of that day, because otherwise I don't think I could debate and research it (maybe that's why I turned to NORAD for my research?). But every now and then the reality - that three thousand people's lives ended in horrific violence - breaks through and refuses to be ignored.

-Gumboot
 
gumboot said:
I think you'll find that even in this very thread I said the BBC was biased. The documentary was clearly intended to discredit 9/11 CTs, and that's what it did.

But the lying accusation was directed at a single fact - whether the CIA created Al Qaeda. You will note from my posts that I clarified they were lying IF the documentary claimed that.

I am not aware of any lies in the Conspiracy Files program, so while biased, there are no lies. Unless you'd like to present some?

-Gumboot
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The BBC show claimed the debris field was not 8 miles. This is contradicted by mainstream press reports. The BBC also called Dylan a dropout, another lie.

So you admit the documentary was biased?
 
Aphelion said:
The BBC show claimed the debris field was not 8 miles. This is contradicted by mainstream press reports.
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Then the BBC debunked mainstream press reports and CT'ers that accepted it.

Did you see the part where the debris field distance came from driving directions and not point to point distance?

What's your point?
 
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