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Australian Politics: The Albanese Times

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Looking at the various seats in doubt and I found something kinda interesting. If Macnamara comes down to Labor vs Greens then there's a good chance Labor will win it based on LNP preferences assuming most voters follow the how to vote card.
 
Nice to see some sanity return to West Island!

And this:

arthwollipot said:
Wow. 9.9% swing to Labor in WA.
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Gives the absolute lie to the right-wing spin that the West Australians were going hard for Morrison after the alleged debacle of the state gov't.

I'm picking you'll be seeing Jacinda make a trip to visit very shortly to start trying to repair the damage Morrison has done.
 
Went to bed happy, woke up happy.

Except, I was really hoping the Dutton would lose his seat, I'm still hoping...

On the ABC Simon Birmingham was saying: "We'll have to go back to our roots, get in touch with why we're Liberals."

I hope that is what they do, because people are awake to why they are Liberals and that's why they were voted out.

And a quick note for our American readers...

Don't forget that the Australian Liberal party (and all the rag tags that they have to join up with to form governments) are RIGHT WING.
 
novaphile said:
Went to bed happy, woke up happy.

Except, I was really hoping the Dutton would lose his seat, I'm still hoping...

On the ABC Simon Birmingham was saying: "We'll have to go back to our roots, get in touch with why we're Liberals."

I hope that is what they do, because people are awake to why they are Liberals and that's why they were voted out.

And a quick note for our American readers...

Don't forget that the Australian Liberal party (and all the rag tags that they have to join up with to form governments) are RIGHT WING.
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As I said earlier (I think, it’s been an “emotional” night) I want Dutton to survive and be Liberal leader. That would guarantee a decade government for Labor.
 
lionking said:
As I said earlier (I think, it’s been an “emotional” night) I want Dutton to survive and be Liberal leader. That would guarantee a decade government for Labor.
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I would like him to be the Lib leader for now. And lots and lots of repeated internal power squabbles trying to unseat him. Because the (slightly) wiser Lib apparatchiks would realise Dutton is a guaranteed loser electorally and he needs to be replaced with a winnable moderate, but they never have enough clout to actually take him down. Meanwhile, Labor.
 
Norman Alexander said:
I would like him to be the Lib leader for now. And lots and lots of repeated internal power squabbles trying to unseat him. Because the (slightly) wiser Lib apparatchiks would realise Dutton is a guaranteed loser electorally and he needs to be replaced with a winnable moderate, but they never have enough clout to actually take him down. Meanwhile, Labor.
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They haven’t had the clout to date but this has been a rude awakening.
 
In other news Rex Patrick and Nick Xenophon have managed to halve each other's Senate votes in South Australia, keeping them both out.

Hooray!

The One Notion party looks likely to win a South Australian Senate seat, so not all good news...
 
One disappointing outcome is Kristina Kennelly didn’t get up. She has talent and will come back.

And I think the Teals and possibly the Greens will drop back next election if Albo turns out to be a decent leader. The Greens and independents benefitted from a huge protest/anti Scomo vote.
 
lionking said:
One disappointing outcome is Kristina Kennelly didn’t get up. She has talent and will come back.

And I think the Teals and possibly the Greens will drop back next election if Albo turns out to be a decent leader. The Greens and independents benefitted from a huge protest/anti Scomo vote.
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If being a decent leader means he addresses housing, wage stagnation, and environment. He will not get away with being Liberal lite. We also need to get away from duopolies. More voices in Parliament is a good thing. I hope the Green vote grows and fills the vacuum Labor is leaving as it drifts right.
 
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Why negative about Albo?

A mate of mine, who used to be a Labor MP, has lots of time for Albo.
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I will admit he had some good moments in the past two weeks, but I find him uninspiring. Gillard and Rudd were not great PMs, but I rate them much higher than Albo, and he is not within light years of Hawke, Keating and Whitlam.

But, as I said, still better than Scomo.
 
lionking said:
I will admit he had some good moments in the past two weeks, but I find him uninspiring. Gillard and Rudd were not great PMs, but I rate them much higher than Albo, and he is not within light years of Hawke, Keating and Whitlam.

But, as I said, still better than Scomo.
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We dont need sexy orators who never fluff the lines. We need honesty and vision for Australian society. Corporations casualising the workforce and paying as little as they can get away with needs to be put in check. Our parents and people our age need to lower the ladder again and give the kids the job and home ownership opportunities that we had.
 
Sideroxylon said:
We dont need sexy orators who never fluff the lines. We need honesty and vision for Australian society. Corporations casualising the workforce and paying as little as they can get away with needs to be put in check. Our parents and people our age need to lower the ladder again and give the kids the job and home ownership opportunities that we had.
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I don’t disagree with this. But Labor’s vote is down too. I don’t think this election was decided on policies given how similar the policies of both major parties are. Labor deliberately made themselves a small target and got barely a third of the vote.

Yes Albo got the result, but when Scomo and covid are well in the past, Albo will need to stand up. I’m not certain he can. His past has been the consummate Labor machine man, not an accomplished leader.
 
lionking said:
I don’t disagree with this. But Labor’s vote is down too. I don’t think this election was decided on policies given how similar the policies of both major parties are. Labor deliberately made themselves a small target and got barely a third of the vote.

Yes Albo got the result, but when Scomo and covid are well in the past, Albo will need to stand up. I’m not certain he can. His past has been the consummate Labor machine man, not an accomplished leader.
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I am pretty sure it was on those policies that the Greens and teals ate a good bit if Labor’s lunch on election day. Albo is going to have to be bold and look after the workers and climate.
 
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Sideroxylon said:
I am pretty sure it was on those policies that the Greens and teals ate a good bit if Labor’s lunch on election day. Albo is going to have to be bold and look after the workers and climate.
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Again, I agree.

Meanwhile we have to wait to see if Labor gets a majority, which looks likely. I wonder if they will give the Greens the environment portfolio and form a coalition? I would be happy with this, but doubt it will happen.
 
Sideroxylon said:
I am pretty sure it was on those policies that the Greens and teals ate a good bit if Labor’s lunch on election day. Albo is going to have to be bold and look after the workers and climate.
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If he is wise, and he seems to be, he will certainly realise the slippage of Labor support to Green and teal issues, and will embrace these issues to be dealt with by the Labor government. That will almost certainly give him an unassailable practical parliamentary majority, plus keep the "protesters" on Labor's side for future reference. It also consigns the Dutton/Hanson/Katter critters to become a small enclave of harrumphing troglodytes.
 
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