Merged Artificial Intelligence

[The Atheist]

No, it's not too late.

Unlike the library of Alexandria, Wikipedia hasn't burned to the ground. You can do your bit by donating.

I'm one of the rare people who do.

 

[carlosy]

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Well, the didn't steal anything, they just blatantly used it unabashed for power and money.

 

[carlosy]

I guess this is it, we are ◊◊◊◊◊◊.
And for every wrinkle on his forehead you can add another 10 % chance of AI being our demise.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

No, it's not too late.

Unlike the library of Alexandria, Wikipedia hasn't burned to the ground. You can do your bit by donating.

It's too late for the thousands of rare books that Amazon alone has bought, scanned, then destroyed. Not even offer to sell them on Amazon afterwards, but destroyed them.

It's actually worse than Alexandria. If nothing else, based on number of pages alone.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

Also worth noting that AI has real impact way beyond art. AI is already using joke posts on the internet to give deadly advice like lubricating your brakes if they squeak when braking, or demanding that mechanics apply some coating that reduces friction. I hope I don't have to explain why that can get you (and possibly other people) killed. And people made videos repeating what the AI said. Or one guy ended up in ER because he trusted AI that he could just replace sodium chloride (table salt) with sodium bromide, which did quite the number on his brain chemistry.

 

[carlosy]

The question any reporter should ask these Tech-bro CEOs:

Do you think it is possible, an AI is created is so smart and powerful, that it will only destroy and kill the Tech-bros (like yourself), and then gives all the billions and trillions back to the people? Do you think that is a possibility?

Maybe - that question scares them enough...

 

[PitPat]

Also worth noting that AI has real impact way beyond art. AI is already using joke posts on the internet to give deadly advice like lubricating your brakes if they squeak when braking, or demanding that mechanics apply some coating that reduces friction. I hope I don't have to explain why that can get you (and possibly other people) killed. And people made videos repeating what the AI said. Or one guy ended up in ER because he trusted AI that he could just replace sodium chloride (table salt) with sodium bromide, which did quite the number on his brain chemistry.

Same thing could be said for anybody who takes any advice from the internet (writ large) though, doesn't it? At some point you have to make a determination for yourself. To me, AI advice isn't that different than random internet guy advice. But it is pretty good at helping me beat bosses in video games.

 

[steenkh]

Or one guy ended up in ER because he trusted AI that he could just replace sodium chloride (table salt) with sodium bromide, which did quite the number on his brain chemistry.

Are you sure his brain chemistry wasn't already damaged? It sure sounds like a good thing if this guy doesn't produce offspring.

 

[Andy_Ross]

It's too late for the thousands of rare books that Amazon alone has bought, scanned, then destroyed. Not even offer to sell them on Amazon afterwards, but destroyed them.

It's actually worse than Alexandria. If nothing else, based on number of pages alone.

Thr scanning process destroys them, the spines are guillotined off and the individual pages are scanned.
When they have finished there's no book left to sell.

 

[Andy_Ross]

AI staff 'genuinely frightened' for humanity's future, ex-Anthropic researcher tells BBC

An artificial intelligence researcher who quit AI firm Anthropic has said people working on the technology were "genuinely frightened" about the speed of its advancements and what it could mean for humanity.

Jacob Coxon told the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg on Saturday about his viral resignation post in which he raised concerns about out-of-control AI.

"I believe that if we don't slow down at the current rate of progress, there is a strong chance that we could all die in the immediate future," he said.

His resignation comes amid growing safety concerns in the industry, including from his former boss, Anthropic head Dario Amodei, who in an essay argued for development to slow down.

AI staff 'genuinely frightened' for humanity's future, ex-Anthropic researcher tells BBC

It comes as the AI firm's boss has called for the technology's development to be slowed down, citing "serious" risks.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Darat]

It's too late for the thousands of rare books that Amazon alone has bought, scanned, then destroyed. Not even offer to sell them on Amazon afterwards, but destroyed them.

It's actually worse than Alexandria. If nothing else, based on number of pages alone.

Those rare books were sat on shelves in 2nd hand shops or stored in old warehouses and would have eventually made it to landfill or be pulped, they may have been rare in the sense of last ones existing of a particular volume but it wasn't a book anyone wanted or cherished. In this instance I am glad that the digitization has happened else they would have been lost to the world, at least their content has been saved.

 

[Darat]

AI staff 'genuinely frightened' for humanity's future, ex-Anthropic researcher tells BBC

An artificial intelligence researcher who quit AI firm Anthropic has said people working on the technology were "genuinely frightened" about the speed of its advancements and what it could mean for humanity.

Jacob Coxon told the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg on Saturday about his viral resignation post in which he raised concerns about out-of-control AI.

"I believe that if we don't slow down at the current rate of progress, there is a strong chance that we could all die in the immediate future," he said.

His resignation comes amid growing safety concerns in the industry, including from his former boss, Anthropic head Dario Amodei, who in an essay argued for development to slow down.

AI staff 'genuinely frightened' for humanity's future, ex-Anthropic researcher tells BBC

It comes as the AI firm's boss has called for the technology's development to be slowed down, citing "serious" risks.

www.bbc.co.uk

There is a great teardown of the latest doomsayer from one of the big AI companies:


Jump to 17:30 for the comments about the AI's are going to end hummanity.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

Thr scanning process destroys them, the spines are guillotined off and the individual pages are scanned.
When they have finished there's no book left to sell.

It doesn't mean they couldn't have used a less destructive method, though. Google has been scanning old books for 2 decades and using them in captchas without destroying them.

 

[Darat]

It doesn't mean they couldn't have used a less destructive method, though. Google has been scanning old books for 2 decades and using them in captchas without destroying them.

Would you then expect them to keep the non-destructively scanned books? Who would have access to them? Who would pay for their storage? They would just end up in a landfill or pulped even if they had been non-destructively scanned.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

Would you then expect them to keep the non-destructively scanned books? Who would have access to them? Who would pay for their storage? They would just end up in a landfill or pulped even if they had been non-destructively scanned.

I mean, they could at least try to sell them on Amazon. It was originally an online bookshop. Or use the scans and offer them as e-books. I dunno.

 

[Darat]

Mentioned in another thread about AI:

This has been going on since before the recent AI bubble, I see the issue being the IP value and rights of the the authors not the destruction of the books. These aren't really rare books in the sense we usually mean i.e. valuable and ones of historic importance; these are the books that are in a second hand bookshop for decades literally decaying away on the shelves, yes there will be "rare" ones in the sense that they might be the one of the few remaining copies of that book but no one was going to preserve that book anyway, it was going to be trash at some point.

The issue to me is still the one about IP - if the authors are still alive then they should have to give permission for their IP to be used in such a way, they may want some recompense to give that permission or they simply may not want to give permission.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

It's too late for the thousands of rare books that Amazon alone has bought, scanned, then destroyed. Not even offer to sell them on Amazon afterwards, but destroyed them.

It's actually worse than Alexandria. If nothing else, based on number of pages alone.

And potentially millions of people could download a copy of that RARE book. Reminds me of a sign I saw long ago and far away: The body is not the person, the body is where the person resides at this time.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

Mentioned in another thread about AI:

Were they, though? There are books that survived for hundreds of years just fine.

Plus, I could say the same about the library of Alexandria. At the time most of it was filled with essays on Homer and such. Was anyone even reading those? I guess it means it's no loss if everything else burned too, amirite?

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I'm one of the rare people who do.

I've done the odd bit. Hyperwar is the flagship, but the specialized sites are my favorite time wasters.

 

[Darat]

Were they, though? There are books that survived for hundreds of years just fine.

Plus, I could say the same about the library of Alexandria. At the time most of it was filled with essays on Homer and such. Was anyone even reading those? I guess it means it's no loss if everything else burned too, amirite?

We aren't talking about a library so a big difference, these weren't being preserved in any way, most of them would have simply disappeared from the world without anyone ever opening them again, at least this way the contents are being preserved.