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Are We More Than Just a Machine?

KelvinG said:
Do you feel you present yourself in a way that only one of us can be right?
And if so, do you acknowledge that you might be the one who isn't right?
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The fact is, either God exists or He doesn't exist, and it has nothing to do with "taking a vote." So, call me a liar if you will. :p
 
Iacchus said:
The fact is, either God exists or He doesn't exist, and it has nothing to do with "taking a vote." So, call me a liar if you will. :p
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I agree.

But in the future, spare us this holier than thou crap about how you are the open minded one here, and the evil atheists have already made up their mind and aren't worth talking to.
It's a b*llshit evasion tactic on your part so you don't have to answer difficult questions.
 
Marquis de Carabas said:

Answer my question, please. I am eager to see how you get from the idea "there is a living energy [will] within the body" to "the living energy [will] sustains the body."
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Iacchus said:
I know what I know.
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You know what you think you know, and since you are so incompetent in proving that what you know is true, why do you insist in sharing that knowledge with us ?
 
Marquis de Carabas said:
Answer my question, please. I am eager to see how you get from the idea "there is a living energy [will] within the body" to "the living energy [will] sustains the body."
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Why should I? If I'm the only one who knows of such things, then my answer will obviously be suspect, don't you think?
 
El Greco said:
You know what you think you know, and since you are so incompetent in proving that what you know is true, why do you insist in sharing that knowledge with us ?
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Oh, this is hilarious man! Is this the most you have to say? :D
 
Iacchus said:
Why should I? If I'm the only one who knows of such things, then my answer will obviously be suspect, don't you think?
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All answers are suspect. The reason to post your answers is so that they may be examined and judged. If you are afraid of what that judgement may be, by all means, withhold your answers. Assuming, however, that you are truly interested in exploring the topic, post your thoughts and let's discuss them.
 
Marquis de Carabas said:
All answers are suspect. The reason to post your answers is so that they may be examined and judged. If you are afraid of what that judgement may be, by all means, withhold your answers. Assuming, however, that you are truly interested in exploring the topic, post your thoughts and let's discuss them.
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:) The unexamined thought isn't worth having IMO. My apologies to Socrates.
 
Iacchus said:
Oh, this is hilarious man! Is this the most you have to say? :D
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To you, yes. And even that is too much, since there's no amount of words that will make you suspect that what you "know" may not be true. So I've given up on that. I just wonder what makes you repeat the same old sorry arguments day after day, month after month, year after year.
 
Marquis de Carabas said:
All answers are suspect. The reason to post your answers is so that they may be examined and judged. If you are afraid of what that judgement may be, by all means, withhold your answers. Assuming, however, that you are truly interested in exploring the topic, post your thoughts and let's discuss them.
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Life is very much the riddle. Indeed. Why should I risk jeopardizing your ability to solve it for yourself?

Also, if there was something so universal about what I'm saying, why should it have to come through me? Why should I have to put up with all this crap if people don't wish to believe it?
 
I'm nothing more than a machine. And not a very good one; my vacuum tubes are all outdated, and my hard drive has gone floppy. It happens in later life.

Athon

Interesting but pointless statistic for a pointless thread; 5/17 of Iacchus' posts in this thread have smilies attached.
 
El Greco said:
So I've given up on that. I just wonder what makes you repeat the same old sorry arguments day after day, month after month, year after year.
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Do you even know what sorry is? Obviously not.
 
Iacchus said:
Also, if there was something so universal about what I'm saying, why should it have to come through me? Why should I have to put up with all this crap if people don't wish to believe it?
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If you wish to profess things you have no desire nor ability to defend, you are free to do so. But do not complain that others wish not to believe it when you provide them no reason to do so. Open and honest debate is available to you if you so desire, but you seem to prefer tossing out mindless rhetoric, knowing it will not win any converts--only disdain.

Well, I'm more than happy to feed your martyr complex for you. I'd be happier still if you were interested in learning anything.
 
athon said:
I'm nothing more than a machine. And not a very good one; my vacuum tubes are all outdated, and my hard drive has gone floppy. It happens in later life.

Athon

Interesting but pointless statistic for a pointless thread; 5/17 of Iacchus' posts in this thread have smilies attached.
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Any more pointless than this pointless universe we exist in? What could be more pointless than that? :con2:
 
Iacchus said:
Do you even know what sorry is? Obviously not.
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Are you going to answer my question in a meaningful way for a change, or are you completely incapable of coherent communication ? I repeat:

What do you expect to accomplish by posting the same "arguments" for so long ? Do you expect to "convert" anyone ? Did you have any "results" so far ?
 
Marquis de Carabas said:
Well, I'm more than happy to feed your martyr complex for you. I'd be happier still if you were interested in learning anything.
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And why do you insist on contradicting yourself? Yep, it sure sounds like only one of us can be right.
 
Iacchus said:
Any more pointless than this pointless universe we exist in? What could be more pointless than that? :con2:
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Believing in superstition to give a pretend meaning to existence.

Humans give meaning to the universe. That is what we do and that is what we are. We might not be alone. Primates and other species might also give some meaning however obviously limited. There might also be other life forms out there (see hitchhikers guide to the galaxy). Now I could make that my religion and give me some hope of being saved by some intergalactic hitchhiker but that would be pointless.
 
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